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    Quote Originally Posted by Elle_1 View Post
    Cynic,

    Thank you for all this extra work you have done here ending with the Parade Stranger. Good grief There usually are hundreds of Parade Strangers in a Parade. They had to draw a special one out of the hat!
    They were grasping at straws, Cynic, if you ask me!?
    Thanks Elle.
    The classic MO of the Ramseys from day one has been to throw as much out there as possible and see what sticks.

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    What’s this???? Some member of the media didn’t get the memo to bow down to John Ramsey. (She’s probably been fired.)

    JonBenet Ramsey book won't catch her killer
    By Sandra Fish

    [snip]
    It’s sad that Ramsey now refers to his daughter by a nickname never mentioned in the hoopla after her death. It’s sad that now he offers photos of an authentic-looking 6-year-old, hair tousled, photos never offered to counteract the beauty pageant images of JonBenet.

    It’s sad that now he questions the wisdom of dressing up young girls in suggestive outfits and makeup.

    Finally, it’s sad that JonBenet’s father considers her criminal case “pretty dead.”

    Perhaps if the Boulder police had cleared the crime scene and conducted a thorough search of the Ramsey home on Dec. 26, 1996; perhaps if John and Patsy Ramsey had cooperated with police instead of hiring a defense attorney and talking to CNN less than a week later; perhaps if the family had done more to create a portrait of their daughter beyond beauty pageant queen; perhaps if the public and media focused less on the spectacle and more on the crime. Perhaps, then, a 6-year-old’s murder might be solved.


    Sandra Fish teaches journalism at the University of Colorado and has reported on politics in Iowa, Florida and Colorado. Follow her on Twitter at @fishnette.
    http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/...dTES_blog.html

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    Chapter 2:

    "The garrote around her head had strangled her, and so when given the blow to the head, she was already dead and didn't bleed."

    Yeah? No bleeding? Where did all that blood inside her head come from then?

    Autopsy report, say it with me now:

    "Upon reflection of the scalp there is found to be an extensive area of scalp hemorrhage along the right temporoparietal area extending from the orbital ridge, posteriorly all the way to the occipital area. This encompasses an area measuring approximately 7 x 4 inches. This grossly appears to be fresh hemorrhage with no evidence of organization."

    "On removal of the skull cap there is found to be a thin film of subdural hemorrhage measuring approximately 7-8 cc over the surface of the right cerebral hemisphere and extending to the base of the cerebral hemisphere."

    "There is a thin film of subarachnoid hemorrhage overlying the entire right cerebral hemisphere."
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    "Our physician was called and he prescribed medication for us."

    Dr. Francesco Beuf was not John's and Patsy's physician, he was the physician to Burke and JonBenet and John only paid for his services, unless by that definition the lawyers John hired for Patsy and Burke were also his lawyers, which sort of defeated the point of having separate lawyers, yes?
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    "Pam entered the single solid oak front door, passed through the foyer, the hallway, and past our now desolate Christmas tree. She climbed the front stairs to our bedroom on the third floor and stood staring at the darkened, empty room, the bed still unmade."

    This sort of thing characterizes something truly odd going on with John. Why paint this picture, when it is inaccurate? The front stairs were to the right close to the front door. Pam would not have "passed through" the foyer, the hallway, and the tree inside the living room. She would have gone in the door and gone up the stairs immediately, not passing "through" anything except the air between the door and the stairs. But I can see how it makes for a prettier, more poignant picture if John has the reader visualize a despondent Pam wandering around rather than have her prodded along by a no-nonsense police officer who had the goal of getting her in and getting her out as quickly as possible.
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    "She brushed her hand across JonBenet's bedpost, her only niece's twin bed, the peach-colored sheets still rumpled from where she had been taken."

    What? *Only* niece? What about the two daughters her sister Paulette had? One of whom was the famous Jeny who Patsy bought underwear for, because God knows the best present a child can receive for Christmas is underwear from your aunt?

    Need I also note that Pam had her raid on the house on December 28th, by which time the sheets had already been taken into evidence and were not present for Pam to brush her hand across?
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    "The closet door ajar, her clothes and toys lying in disarray inside, a tap shoe lying upside down as though just tossed from a little foot after a rehearsal. Pam bent to pick it up when a policeman barked at her not to touch. She started to leave the room but felt compelled to take a small medal about the size of a silver dollar from a shelf of JonBenet's trophies."

    The officer would not let her touch a tap shoe, but had no problem with Pam taking a medal? I question whether that tap shoe incident took place. It smells of Pam manufacturing drama where drama did not exist.
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    "I wore this priceless medal around my neck twenty-four hours a day for a year until the eyelet on top wore through and the ribbon frayed to threads. I carry it in my wallet to this day."

    Interesting. The story was slightly different in the year 2000, when John appeared with Patsy on the Today Show. On that appearance, he was wearing the medal around his neck, and he says this:

    "COURIC: You wrote quite poignantly, John, about a little pageant medallion...
    Mr. RAMSEY: Mm-hmm.
    COURIC: ...that you got from the house after JonBenet died that you wear around your neck.
    Mr. RAMSEY: Mm-hmm.
    COURIC: Do you wear that every day?
    Mr. RAMSEY: Yes, I do. Wear it all the time, 24 hours a day.
    COURIC: Can you show it to me? Or...
    Mr. RAMSEY: Mm-hmm.
    COURIC: Is it possible to get under there and...
    Mr. RAMSEY: It's--this medal JonBenet won at her last little pageant. It was the Christmas pageant in early December, and JonBenet had won the Overall Talent award. And she took it off and came over and put it around my neck. And it was just her way of saying, 'Dad, I did really good in my talent.' And after she died, I--I thought--I wanted--I want that medal. That's the one thing of hers I want. And Pam went over to the house, Patsy's sister, in those early days to get some things so we could go back to Atlanta for the funeral. And she came up to me, she says, 'I don't know why, but I had this strange sensation I needed to give you this medal.' It was this medal. And that was, to me, a message that JonBenet delivered that said, 'I'm OK.' Because only she and I knew the significance of that medal. And only she knew that--that that's what I wanted.
    Ms. RAMSEY: And it belonged on her dad.
    Mr. RAMSEY: So it's never left my neck."

    So he wore it for a year, then put it in his wallet, then...wears his wallet on his neck for the next few years?
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    "In those high-flying days I never dreamed that one day I would downsize to the point of selling most of the treasures we owned, and that I would be calling a boat my home."

    I have little sympathy for someone who at the time owned both a boat and a private airplane, and had recently sold his house for $358,000, which could provide quite a few years of payments toward simple rental of an apartment. How about getting your priorities straight and selling the boat, John? That, or refrain from making it look as if your preference for living on a boat is supposed to be a detriment rather than a priority?
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    "John, let me finish. I received a call from inside the system, I can't tell you who it was, but the person told me to get this message to you as soon as possible. He said specifically, 'Tell John to get the best defense attorney he can get his hands on. The Boulder police think he killed his daughter.'"

    What on earth is the deal with the cloak-and-dagger picture John wants to paint? He spent years telling the world that Mike Bynum told him to hire lawyers. We are all supposed to have forgotten this? And now we are supposed to think that someone at Access Graphics spoke directly to an insider in the BPD, bypassing Bynum entirely?
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    "(Years later we filed six lawsuits against the tabloids and reached settlements, but these victories went unpublicized.)"

    Oh, for God's sake again, the New York Times had not *quite* fallen on hard times yet, and they publicized the settlements. If a newspaper read around the world is not publicity, what is?

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    Hello there RR and Niner. Long time no see!
    Hi Elle!


    Why_Nut! Excellent!
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    UNPUBLICIZED? Other than EVERY NEWS CHANNEL LYNN WOOD STUCK HIS FAUX "SOUTHERN GENTLEMAN" FACE ON to crow about it?! Which was ALL OF THEM? For YEARS!

    Who writes this BS? I don't believe John wouldn't deign to pick up a keyboard to write one syllable about this murder. I'd bet the farm he had YET ANOTHER ghost writer and this was ALL FOR MONEY.

    Clearly his "life's mission" of catching the killer is long gone. Clearly, having FORGIVEN himself (thanks, Elle!) he feels no reason to EVER tell the truth about what happened to his brutally murdered little girl. Clearly he's as FULL OF CHIT AS HE EVER WAS.

    And whatever lighting made the old corpse look well to that reporter, somebody buy me some stock in it NOW. Every photo I see he's wearing more makeup than they slather on children at those pageants he now dares criticize. Keeps changing his story on that, too, doesn't he? LIAR.

    Okay, time to PUKE AGAIN. Sorry for the YELLING! but not really

    "University of Colorado Law Professor Paul Campos declared the letter a 'reckless exoneration.' He went on to state, 'Everyone knows that relative immunity from criminal conviction is something money can buy.
    Apparently another thing it can buy is an apology for even being suspected of a crime you probably already would have been convicted of committing if you happened to be poor.'"
    FF: WRKJB?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Niner View Post
    Hi Elle!


    Why_Nut! Excellent!
    Hi there Niner! Yes! Kudos to Why_Nut for all the excellent work posted. He has done an excellent job, and was always able to come up with information which wasn't easy to find. Maybe he's with Intelligence! (?). I know for sure you are also a member, Niner!

    KK I think you should write a book! It would be a good one!
    elle: The RST can't handle the truth!
    Just my opinion.

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    Old corpse is right KK. I can't take it any more.
    I despise the Ramseys and this is just my opinion

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    This Sunday's Websleuths Radio (March 18th) we will be discussing John's new book and his inconsistancies.

    I have invited DeeDee and KoldKase to be on the show. Waiting to hear back from them.

    KK check your text messages.

    Why_Nut you are ALWAYS WELCOME to be on the show.

    If anyone else wants to join in the number to call is 760-825-0093

    We will be talking to the mother of LACEY BUENFIL... (Imother of 3 , missing in Ocala National Forest.)

    Lacey's mother will go on first. Then we will discuss the Ramsey case. Also don't forget we will have our Websleuths Hot Cold Case as well. AND we will probably talk about one or two other cases.


    Here is the link to the show. If you call in please listen through your phone and not your computer. There is a delay and it will really mess up if you try and listen on the compute and talk through the phone.

    http://www.blogtalkradio.com/websleu...bsleuths-radio

    Feel free to email me first if you would like to call in and chat or just go ahead and do so.
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    I am unaware of anyone who's profited from exploiting the Ramsey murder over a longer period of time, with a greater disregard for the principles of accuracy and fairness, than the production team of Mills and Tracey.They truly do inhabit a different moral universe from real journalists. It's the difference between journalism and propaganda.
    Alan Prendergast,reporter for Westword

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    To the wonderful FFJ Members,

    Thank you so much for your hard work on this thread. I will be using this information on the Websleuths Radio show this Sunday.

    You all never cease to amaze me.

    Trust me when I tell you, despite what we are seeing now, the year 2012 is a great year for the truth in the JonBenet case. Promise.
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    I am unaware of anyone who's profited from exploiting the Ramsey murder over a longer period of time, with a greater disregard for the principles of accuracy and fairness, than the production team of Mills and Tracey.They truly do inhabit a different moral universe from real journalists. It's the difference between journalism and propaganda.
    Alan Prendergast,reporter for Westword

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    Thank you Cynic for posting these. I'm going to watch them now. I have always liked Anderson Cooper.

    Will you be on Tricia's radio show again speaking? You were very good on
    the last broadcast. It's not something I would want to tackle. I'll leave it to all you younger ones who appear to just go with the flow.
    elle: The RST can't handle the truth!
    Just my opinion.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tricia View Post
    To the wonderful FFJ Members,

    Thank you so much for your hard work on this thread. I will be using this information on the Websleuths Radio show this Sunday.

    You all never cease to amaze me.

    Trust me when I tell you, despite what we are seeing now, the year 2012 is a great year for the truth in the JonBenet case. Promise.
    Looking forward to hearing KK and DeeDee tomorrow on your radio show, Tricia, if I can get through. If I can't, Cynic posted a link for me the last
    time shortly after it and I managed to hear it. I'm sure he will do the same again if I can't. He is a very nice and helpful young man. I switched to Windows 7 last May, and I still prefer Windows XP.
    elle: The RST can't handle the truth!
    Just my opinion.



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