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  1. #169

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    Quote Originally Posted by Elle_1 View Post
    I think Casey Anthony was guilty of this crime, Cynic. I felt she was a very cold hearted young woman.
    I agree, Elle. When compiling a list of individuals who have eluded justice, I’m sure Casey will be in the top 3 on most people’s list. She’s there along with the Ramseys and OJ in my top 3.

  2. #170

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    Quote Originally Posted by Elle_1 View Post
    Thank you Cynic for posting these. I'm going to watch them now. I have always liked Anderson Cooper.

    Will you be on Tricia's radio show again speaking? You were very good on
    the last broadcast. It's not something I would want to tackle. I'll leave it to all you younger ones who appear to just go with the flow.
    Thank you for asking, Elle. I would have loved to have been on to take a few swipes at John but I was out of town visiting family.

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    Quote Originally Posted by koldkase View Post
    Hey, Carol. Don't blame you for not watching. I've been avoiding JR like the plague he is. So disappointed in Anderson Cooper, as I had so much respect for him as a journalist. Now...not so much.
    Here are some "backstage" comments from AC which undoubtedly will not improve your opinion of him.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sT4sZdold_g

  4. #172

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    Here is the interview with JR on Huckabee.

    Part One:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OdXdZZXzPuU

    Part Two:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FyYt0EyF12Q

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    I believe this is the longest interview with JR so far this year.
    It is on the Daystar Television Network, the interviewers are Marcus and Joni Lamb.

    Part One:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9YuMwjTdUbo

    Part Two:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IAModT6sGpM

    Part Three:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n_5kNX8da0o

    Part Four:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XXwL_yXIG_g

  6. #174

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    Quote Originally Posted by koldkase View Post
    I was more relaxed this time because I had an idea of what to expect, unlike the first time: when I heard Dr. Wecht speaking after I called in--that's some serious fire power there.

    Of course, so are Mark Klaas and Dr. Glass. It's all a bit intimidating, but Tricia is so good at this, she makes it easier. Though I imagine I can hear her "thought bubbles" when I say something she's not expecting.

    Tricia "thought bubbles": "WHAT did you just say?!" "Oh crap!" "Why did she say that?!" "Hello?! That's dead air whistling in our ears, Koldkase!"

    Here's what's happening on MY END: Hubs forgets I'm on the phone/podcast and, seeing a singer on TV he likes, TURNS THE VOLUME WAY UP...me frantically making hand signals to CUT IT DOWN, then running from the room as Tricia says "Uh oh...." That man, that man....
    It was great to hear you again on WS radio, KK, excellent as usual.
    (p.s. Now that I know that threatening you is effective, I’ll have to do it more often.)
    Quote Originally Posted by cynic View Post
    And, BTW, why were you not on the anniversary show? I’m not sure I can forgive you.
    Ok, I forgive you, but you better be there next time. (Hopefully threatening posters isn’t against TOS.) :runaway:
    http://www.forumsforjustice.org/foru...9&postcount=17

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    Quote Originally Posted by DeeDee View Post
    I don't know if I will be there. I haven't read the book, so I really can't discuss it. But aside from that, I babysit most weekends. If I can get the kids in bed early, I might try.
    It's unfortunate you weren’t able to make it DeeDee, you have a demonstrated wealth of knowledge with respect to this case.
    Maybe next time?

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    Wish there was a "Thanks" button on this forum! Excellent post everyone!

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    Quote Originally Posted by cynic View Post
    It's unfortunate you weren’t able to make it DeeDee, you have a demonstrated wealth of knowledge with respect to this case.
    Maybe next time?
    Maybe. What I haven't mentioned publicly is that I am mostly deaf (Meniere's Disease) and phone conversations can sometimes be difficult. It would be uncomfortable to be part of a group discussion and me not hearing all that is being said.
    As for this past week's show, I did not read JR's book, so I felt there wasn't a lot I could offer.
    This is my Constitutionally protected OPINION. Please do not copy or take it anywhere else.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DeeDee View Post
    Maybe. What I haven't mentioned publicly is that I am mostly deaf (Meniere's Disease) and phone conversations can sometimes be difficult. It would be uncomfortable to be part of a group discussion and me not hearing all that is being said.
    As for this past week's show, I did not read JR's book, so I felt there wasn't a lot I could offer.
    Sorry to hear that, but I'm pretty sure you would have been great, regardless.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cynic View Post
    Sorry to hear that, but I'm pretty sure you would have been great, regardless.
    Thanks. I am sure YOU were great.
    This is my Constitutionally protected OPINION. Please do not copy or take it anywhere else.

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    During the WS radio show, reference was made to an interview where there was speculation as to what Burke might do at age 40, here is that portion of the interview.

    The JonBenet Ramsey Case ... Open or Shut?
    By Scott Ross
    The 700 Club
    CBN.com– Scott Ross interviewed Patsy and John Ramsey in 2000. Read how faith helped the family through their daughter’s death and Patsy’s terminal ovarian cancer.

    [SNIP]
    SCOTT: How is your son Burke? How old is your son?

    PATSY: He is 13 .

    SCOTT: How is he doing?

    PATSY: Well he is a typical 13-year-old.

    JOHN: We worry about Burke longer term. We had him spend time with a child specialist. Kids have ways to bury this and it's black and white and they put it aside. Where it is going to affect Burke probably more so is when he is 40 years old and that's when we worry about it, long term.

    SCOTT: When he is what?

    JOHN: Forty. When he's older.

    PATSY: Perhaps when he has a family of his own or when he has a child of his own or when he is able to put together what could have happened. Why was he not taken and she was? All of those questions.

    SCOTT: Did he ever accuse you, did he ever distance from you?

    PATSY: Oh, no never.

    SCOTT: I don't trust Mom and Dad anymore -- they are murderers?

    PATSY: No.

    JOHN: We were a loving family. We loved our children. We were a typical American family. The other thing that has happened to us that ought to be an offense to the average, typical American family is that we have been accused of all of these horrible things. We love our children. We would do anything for them, as would most American families, and yet the media has assaulted us and in effect the American family.

    SCOTT: Are you bitter, angry, cynical?

    PATSY: On days it's yes, yes, yes. Just like normal, you have a good day or a bad, you have a good hour, a bad hour. We were at the beach on vacation and I see all these little families running around playing, little blondes, cute little beach clothes and having fun and frolicking, you know, and I'm bitter because that was taken away from us. I should be enjoying my children -- both of them. You know, that is hard.

    SCOTT: Are you able to laugh, is there humor, is there joy in your life?

    PATSY: There is a difference between happiness and joy. We have moments of joy. Will I ever be truly happy again, probably not. Not until I'm with all those -- my grandmothers, my great aunts, my grandfathers and my JonBenet -- then I will be truly happy again. Then I will be with the God of the universe, who knows truth and who knows justice. But will I ever be truly happy again, probably not.

    SCOTT: How are you living that day by day?

    PATSY: I am living just fine. I am not…

    SCOTT: What do you mean you live just fine? You can't say that. You know that's a soundbite. Someone will take that and say "I live just fine?"

    PATSY: People say, how can you do this, how can you do this? I have a 13-year-old son, I have two wonderful parents, we have a new grandbaby, I have a wonderful husband, wonderful friends and I have a God that knows the truth. I have nothing to be ashamed of, nothing to be remorseful over except that I miss my child everyday, every minute of the day.

    SCOTT: Did JonBenet understand anything about God?

    PATSY: Very much!

    JOHN: She was … (starts to cry) … amazing.

    PATSY: She was a participant in the Episcopal church, where I learned about the healing. That was called Cathechesis of the Good Shepherd. And it was a learning environment like the Montesorri style of learning, it was for preschoolers. JonBenet took it when she was about 5 or 6 years old. It was an environment where they learned about the Last Supper. They had a little mustard seed where they would learn about faith. They had a little corner of the room where they learned about baptism and christening, and JonBenet's christening gown was a part of that display. They learned about David and they learned about the Apostles. They polished the silver chalice, and they learned about the colors of Advent and Lent and all of that.

    They learned about prayer, and they would have a prayer time in a prayer circle. I have this vivid recollection, this picture in my mind of JonBenet, blowing out this candle. She is kneeling in front of the pint-size altar, blowing out her candle and watching the smoke rise. She would tell me that that is her prayer going up to heaven. She was very spiritual.

    SCOTT: Looking at JonBenet, the little girl in that outfit parading there seems to be an exploitation of a child?

    PATSY: It wasn't. It was absolutely not. It was something that she and I enjoyed doing together not unlike hundreds of mothers and daughters across this country that do it every weekend of the world. I was driving this weekend to a friend's house and pulled up at a stoplight and in the car next to me were all these pageant clothes hanging there, and I knew where this mother and child had been this afternoon. This wasn't a novelty.

    JOHN: We had a very simple approach to our children, we wanted them to try different things and be very good at one thing whatever it was. So we let our kids do a lot of different things. JonBenet took violin lessons, she was going to take rock climbing lessons, she took piano lessons, she took French, she took acting lessons. JonBenet was a performer. If there was a microphone it was in her hand and she was singing and dancing or doing something that was just her genes.

    SCOTT: The latest little deal to come out, it hit the press a few days ago, was the fact that you have now gone to a psychic?

    JOHN: Not true.

    SCOTT: Well … I have the article right here …

    JOHN: Read it in the paper has to be true! Let me dispel your image of that.

    SCOTT: There it is. You put out a $100,000 reward to find this guy, and it's on your website.

    JOHN: Our investigators control the web site. They put that picture on there. We did not contact a psychic as has been reported. The sketch that appeared on the web site that our investigators use was provided by Dorthy Allison on a television program a year or so ago. Our objective is to keep this alive in the public's mind, in hopes that the one lead that we are waiting for will come through.

    SCOTT: So you allowed it to be used?

    JOHN: We don't control the web site. The information that was put on there was put on there by our investigators, what they think is appropriate.

    SCOTT: The reason why I raise the question because you claim to be Christians and you know, or I hope you know or have been taught, biblically, God doesn't look with whole lot of kindness on psychics or their practices.

    PATSY & JOHN: Right. I know.

    SCOTT: It's considered to be witchcraft ...

    PATSY: Demonic.

    SCOTT: And demonic. Now that might not make a lot of psychics happy, but I'm sorry, get over it. But that is what you have been accused of now and there is a distortion again?

    PATSY: People look constantly for things to accuse the Ramseys about. This is just another one. Suffice to say -- the investigators, this was their doing -- they had the sketch.

    [SNIP]

    JOHN: You can not convince a cynic of anything. America is getting to be kind of -- at least the media system is a pretty cynical operation.

    SCOTT: The bottom line, below the bottom line, people will ask me, "O.K., you've come out of this, confidentially, what do you think? There is also a side not only as a journalist, but being an ordained minister in the church, to say to other pastors, if they ask me, "Would you recommend to let these people come to my church?"

    JOHN: Let me ask you this? What if we were murderers? Would we be denied access to a church? I hope not.

    PATSY: That's the people who need to be there. Aren't we "preaching to the choir" as they say.

    SCOTT: Well, they still say that.

    JOHN: That is a problem we Christians have in our churches.

    PATSY: We need to welcome everyone.
    [SNIP]

    http://www.cbn.com/700club/scottross...jonbenet1.aspx



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