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    Longtime Denver radio (KHOW 630) talk show host, Peter Boyles, looked back at the case during his December 28, 2011 show.
    http://www.khow.com/main.html

    I remember one of the FBI agents in a conversation saying to me, “this ain’t no whodunit.”
    -Peter Boyles

    Guests:
    Julie Hayden
    Don Wrege
    Peter Fotopoulos

    Seven segments, total time: approximately 63 minutes.
    Part One:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7CWu3MFSN5c

    Part Two:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2bXkQQOpPgM

    Part Three:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R8ci1eBKPd8

    Part Four:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ykr4GOnxfGs

    Part Five:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sjZL8k6GE3M

    Part Six:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wr6rDbiIk3k

    Part Seven:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gDjayIrUmgE


    Parody songs featured during the show:
    Paula the Brown Nosed Newsie (Re: reporter, Paula Woodward)
    Werewolf of Boulder
    Big John “They were playing every citizen for a fool.”
    Only in Boulder “Only in Boulder, Key evidence, Is shared with the prime suspects”
    The (Ransom) Letter “Start off the first sentence "Listen carefully," Misspell some words so they don't think it's me. Use your other hand, make an odd demand. We'd better write us a letter.”
    (Hang Down your Head) Tom Koby “Turn in your badge Tom Koby, You probably let 'em get away”

    Listen to all 14 parody songs here: (Full lyrics included.)
    http://www.simulstream.com/mp3.html
    Last edited by cynic; February 4, 2012, 8:17 pm at Sat Feb 4 20:17:18 UTC 2012.

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    OMG! Thanks so much, Cynic! Another hour of my life I'm going to waste on this case which I'll never get back, but oh well, it's not like I'm curing cancer or anything.

    Here I go! Back later with some thoughts on it.

    "University of Colorado Law Professor Paul Campos declared the letter a 'reckless exoneration.' He went on to state, 'Everyone knows that relative immunity from criminal conviction is something money can buy.
    Apparently another thing it can buy is an apology for even being suspected of a crime you probably already would have been convicted of committing if you happened to be poor.'"
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    Quote Originally Posted by cynic View Post
    Longtime Denver radio (KHOW 630) talk show host, Peter Boyles, looked back at the case during his December 28, 2011 show.
    http://www.khow.com/main.html

    I remember one of the FBI agents in a conversation saying to me, “this ain’t no whodunit.”
    -Peter Boyles

    Guests:
    Julie Hayden
    Don Wrege
    Peter Fotopoulos

    Seven segments, total time: approximately 63 minutes.
    Part One:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7CWu3MFSN5c
    This segment goes over Patsy's, "Crazy" Aunt Pam's, and Nedra's obsession with pageants. It's interesting because Peter and his guest, reporter Julie Hayden, do a good job of capturing how weird the pageant videos appeared to the general public in 1996. The word "creepy" was used more than once.

    "University of Colorado Law Professor Paul Campos declared the letter a 'reckless exoneration.' He went on to state, 'Everyone knows that relative immunity from criminal conviction is something money can buy.
    Apparently another thing it can buy is an apology for even being suspected of a crime you probably already would have been convicted of committing if you happened to be poor.'"
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    Quote Originally Posted by cynic View Post
    Longtime Denver radio (KHOW 630) talk show host, Peter Boyles, looked back at the case during his December 28, 2011 show.
    http://www.khow.com/main.html

    I remember one of the FBI agents in a conversation saying to me, “this ain’t no whodunit.”
    -Peter Boyles

    Guests:
    Julie Hayden
    Don Wrege
    Peter Fotopoulos

    Seven segments, total time: approximately 63 minutes.

    [snip]

    Part Two:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2bXkQQOpPgM

    [snip]

    Parody songs featured during the show:
    Paula the Brown Nosed Newsie (Re: reporter, Paula Woodward)

    [snip]

    Listen to all 14 parody songs here: (Full lyrics included.)
    http://www.simulstream.com/mp3.html
    Okay, this segment is PRICELESS! Around 4:40 (video timer in minutes/seconds) they talk about Michael Tracey "grooming" PERV Karr. Peter calls Tracey a punk...A PUNK!...and tells a story about Tracey trying to get Boyle on camera for one of Tracey's Ramsey propaganda crocumentaries. Peter also gives Tracey credit for the Colorado U School of Journalism being dumped, and I believe he's right on this; remember Tracey's "dept." being given $100K by The GLOBE'S tabloid company? Oh, yeah, that actually HAPPENED, and the reason is more scandalous than anything anyone with the faintest ethics can imagine: IN LIEU OF BEING TRIED IN COURT, AS WAS DOC MILLER, A PROFESSIONAL HANDWRITING ANALYST WHOSE EXPERT OPINION THAT PATSY WROTE THE NOTE NEARLY LANDED HIM IN PRISON, BUT FOR A JURY OF ACTUAL HONEST CITIZENS WHO SAW THE POLITICS BEING USED AS EVIDENCE TO CONVICT, THE GLOBE EDITOR WAS ALLOWED TO DONATE THE MONEY TO MICHAEL TRACEY...I MEAN, HIS SPECIAL JOURNALISM PROJECT.

    Oh, yeah, I am NOT making this up. There is no corruption that Boulder and Colorado wouldn't exercise vigorously to keep the murderer of JonBenet Ramsey out of prison, and that's a FACT. Did I mention that THE RAMSEY'S LAWYERS were the FACTUAL, DOCUMENTED POWER who got Doc Miller INDICTED AND TRIED for a bogus charge? Yep, ONE even TESTIFIED IN THE TRIAL! I read the transcript, and it was simply more proof that Team Ramsey was running the anti-investigation of this murder and playing hard ball with anyone who got in their way. Take that to your holy prayers, John Ramsey, since obviously they're answered by the Devil.

    But there I go, getting started.... sigh

    Anyhow, you must hear this segment. It's only 10 min's, and the parody song at the end is about how JOURNALISTS...oh, so many...completely abandoned their professional ethics to shill for Team Ramsey. The fortunes made on this dead child's back are astounding, but the selling of one's soul does have its unanticipated costs: ask Alex Hunter about that. Or Michael Tracey, who by his own account had a nervous breakdown of sorts. Unfortunately, neither has the courage to face the truth or tell it about their dirty parts in this murder's history, so on their duplicities go.

    Of course, for those who miss it at the bottom of every post of mine, this is just my private opinion. Based on...oh...15 years of studying this case, etc.

    "University of Colorado Law Professor Paul Campos declared the letter a 'reckless exoneration.' He went on to state, 'Everyone knows that relative immunity from criminal conviction is something money can buy.
    Apparently another thing it can buy is an apology for even being suspected of a crime you probably already would have been convicted of committing if you happened to be poor.'"
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    Quote Originally Posted by cynic View Post
    Longtime Denver radio (KHOW 630) talk show host, Peter Boyles, looked back at the case during his December 28, 2011 show.
    http://www.khow.com/main.html

    I remember one of the FBI agents in a conversation saying to me, “this ain’t no whodunit.”
    -Peter Boyles

    Guests:
    Julie Hayden
    Don Wrege
    Peter Fotopoulos

    Seven segments, total time: approximately 63 minutes.

    [snip]

    Part Three:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R8ci1eBKPd8

    [snip]

    Parody songs featured during the show:

    Paula the Brown Nosed Newsie (Re: reporter, Paula Woodward)
    Werewolf of Boulder
    Big John “They were playing every citizen for a fool.”
    Only in Boulder “Only in Boulder, Key evidence, Is shared with the prime suspects”
    The (Ransom) Letter “Start off the first sentence "Listen carefully," Misspell some words so they don't think it's me. Use your other hand, make an odd demand. We'd better write us a letter.”
    (Hang Down your Head) Tom Koby “Turn in your badge Tom Koby, You probably let 'em get away”

    Listen to all 14 parody songs here: (Full lyrics included.)
    http://www.simulstream.com/mp3.html
    This was a short segment with Don Wrege, the man who co-wrote the parody songs with Boyle which cynic linked for us. It sets up the next segment, which Boyles says he will play some of the songs. Good stuff, as it proves once again that Team Ramsey fooled no one who has any intelligence and isn't biased with some personal agenda. It takes intelligence to appreciate humor, even in such a grim case as this. To use it against those who are committing unspeakable acts of evil--brilliant.

    One thing they discuss briefly is how Patsy was the PERFECT person to carry out this cover-up. They bring up her professional Public Relations background, something some people may not know about her. They also may not know that Patsy was an AWARD-WINNING ACTOR in high school and college: she won state and national titles in Dramatic Presentation in high school--for a monologue from The Prime of Miss Jean Brody, no less--ironically (or not) a story about a middle-aged woman who sacrificed her minor student to seduce her lover-by-proxy. Patsy also won scholarship money for the monologue she wrote in a few days to perform at the Miss American Pageant, as the Miss Jean Brody piece was not cleared because of copyright issues. Patsy worked in public relations for an ad company when she and John were first married--I'm not making this up, it's record. That's where she met Judith Phillips and her first husband, who also worked for that company.

    Could Patsy have been more perfectly suited for this, obviously her best performance, pulling together all the skills and experience she'd learned over her lifetime? I have visions of Patsy, sitting before her pad, with her Sharpie pen, practice-writing her ransom note, then the final draft: she knew it was her destiny, and she was up to the task of covering up her daughter's molestation and murder. At least, with the help of some very powerful, well-connected help, she was up to being the public face of lies.

    "University of Colorado Law Professor Paul Campos declared the letter a 'reckless exoneration.' He went on to state, 'Everyone knows that relative immunity from criminal conviction is something money can buy.
    Apparently another thing it can buy is an apology for even being suspected of a crime you probably already would have been convicted of committing if you happened to be poor.'"
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    Quote Originally Posted by koldkase View Post
    This segment goes over Patsy's, "Crazy" Aunt Pam's, and Nedra's obsession with pageants. It's interesting because Peter and his guest, reporter Julie Hayden, do a good job of capturing how weird the pageant videos appeared to the general public in 1996. The word "creepy" was used more than once.
    It was bizarre and weird at the time and I hope that shows like “Toddlers and Tiaras” and “Dance Moms” don’t have the effect of desensitizing us to the “weirdness.”

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    Quote Originally Posted by koldkase View Post
    Okay, this segment is PRICELESS! Around 4:40 (video timer in minutes/seconds) they talk about Michael Tracey "grooming" PERV Karr. Peter calls Tracey a punk...A PUNK!...
    LOL, Peter certainly gives Tracey the “respect” that he deserves.
    BTW KoldKase, if you are interested in a further stroll down memory lane I have some more from Peter.
    This is right in the middle of the Karr mess and it’s hilarious to hear Peter read out emails calling him names, asking for his resignation because of what he’s said about the Ramseys, etc, etc. It was truly an IDI feeding frenzy!
    (Carol McKinley is his guest.)

    4 segments, total time: approximately 36 minutes
    Part One:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dCony7h-dmQ

    Part Two
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pN58i0prDL8

    Part Three
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mRHkbwM9Me4

    Part Four
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uk0Wunqs9Go

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    Thank you cynic!
    No man ever steps in the same river twice, for it's not the same river and he's not the same man. -Heraclitus Fragments c. 500 BC

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    Yes, thanks again, cynic. I got sidetracked--Superbowl Sunday family fun--and still have to finish the first links. Thanks for the second set, as well--Peter Boyles was at ground zero and is himself like the Greek chorus in this travesty of justice. When going after the corrupt, he takes no prisoners. Unfortunately, neither does Boulder.

    "University of Colorado Law Professor Paul Campos declared the letter a 'reckless exoneration.' He went on to state, 'Everyone knows that relative immunity from criminal conviction is something money can buy.
    Apparently another thing it can buy is an apology for even being suspected of a crime you probably already would have been convicted of committing if you happened to be poor.'"
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    Quote Originally Posted by cynic View Post
    Longtime Denver radio (KHOW 630) talk show host, Peter Boyles, looked back at the case during his December 28, 2011 show.
    http://www.khow.com/main.html

    I remember one of the FBI agents in a conversation saying to me, “this ain’t no whodunit.”
    -Peter Boyles

    Guests:
    Julie Hayden
    Don Wrege
    Peter Fotopoulos

    Seven segments, total time: approximately 63 minutes.

    [snip]

    Part Four:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ykr4GOnxfGs

    [snip]

    Parody songs featured during the show:
    Paula the Brown Nosed Newsie (Re: reporter, Paula Woodward)
    Werewolf of Boulder
    Big John “They were playing every citizen for a fool.”
    Only in Boulder “Only in Boulder, Key evidence, Is shared with the prime suspects”
    The (Ransom) Letter “Start off the first sentence "Listen carefully," Misspell some words so they don't think it's me. Use your other hand, make an odd demand. We'd better write us a letter.”
    (Hang Down your Head) Tom Koby “Turn in your badge Tom Koby, You probably let 'em get away”

    Listen to all 14 parody songs here: (Full lyrics included.)
    http://www.simulstream.com/mp3.html
    This segment starts with the "Werewolf of Boulder" song--it's so hokey, so badly produced, it's PERFECT! The lyrics are good satire in their absurdity...which simply highlights the absurdity of this case.

    Boyles then introduces guest Peter Fotopoulos: they discuss the absurdity of the case, starting off with the Ramsey's absurd stories. They point out some key elements of evidence, including the "Rosetta Stone" of the case, the ransom note.

    Cynic, they bring up something that I don't believe I've seen: Peter says he's got a video of Darnay's depositions of Patsy and John, and in the family photo album, of which Patsy declared she had no idea who wrote the photo captions under her own photos of her children, letters from the ransom note were laid directly over those captions with a transparency and they matched exactly. Is this Cina Wong's work? I've seen that, but is this video online? Sorry, I may have just forgotten.

    Does anyone have this video? Cherokee? I do remember seeing parts of the video of those depositions, but only short segments, possibly released by Lin Wood, which means they wouldn't have included ANYTHING he considered damaging to the Ramseys. (Fortunately, Wood's "blinders-on" defense lawyer position kept him for seeing how damaging everything the Ramseys said truly was, because they lied, evaded, and obfuscated every time they spoke.) But I don't remember this particular ransom note demonstration.

    "University of Colorado Law Professor Paul Campos declared the letter a 'reckless exoneration.' He went on to state, 'Everyone knows that relative immunity from criminal conviction is something money can buy.
    Apparently another thing it can buy is an apology for even being suspected of a crime you probably already would have been convicted of committing if you happened to be poor.'"
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    Quote Originally Posted by cynic View Post
    It was bizarre and weird at the time and I hope that shows like “Toddlers and Tiaras” and “Dance Moms” don’t have the effect of desensitizing us to the “weirdness.”
    I don't think there is any chance of that, since that sick demonstration of child exploitation only highlights the mental issues of mothers who abuse their children in this "industry."

    "University of Colorado Law Professor Paul Campos declared the letter a 'reckless exoneration.' He went on to state, 'Everyone knows that relative immunity from criminal conviction is something money can buy.
    Apparently another thing it can buy is an apology for even being suspected of a crime you probably already would have been convicted of committing if you happened to be poor.'"
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    Quote Originally Posted by cynic View Post
    Longtime Denver radio (KHOW 630) talk show host, Peter Boyles, looked back at the case during his December 28, 2011 show.
    http://www.khow.com/main.html

    I remember one of the FBI agents in a conversation saying to me, “this ain’t no whodunit.”
    -Peter Boyles

    Guests:
    Julie Hayden
    Don Wrege
    Peter Fotopoulos

    Seven segments, total time: approximately 63 minutes.

    [snip]

    Part Five:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sjZL8k6GE3M

    [snip]


    Parody songs featured during the show:
    Paula the Brown Nosed Newsie (Re: reporter, Paula Woodward)
    Werewolf of Boulder
    Big John “They were playing every citizen for a fool.”
    Only in Boulder “Only in Boulder, Key evidence, Is shared with the prime suspects”
    The (Ransom) Letter “Start off the first sentence "Listen carefully," Misspell some words so they don't think it's me. Use your other hand, make an odd demand. We'd better write us a letter.”
    (Hang Down your Head) Tom Koby “Turn in your badge Tom Koby, You probably let 'em get away”

    Listen to all 14 parody songs here: (Full lyrics included.)
    http://www.simulstream.com/mp3.html
    This is really good because it has one of those rare, but insightful, "encounters" with Team Ramsey--Pasta Jay, John Ramsey, and "a big guy." (Could this have been a bodyguard?) This story comes from a call-in listener, and he's probably been arrested, interrogated for days in a bare room with a single light-bulb, strapped to a polygraph machine, has a few bruises from "resisting arrest"--okay, kidding...but not.

    Yet another example of the UNLAWFUL VIOLENCE practiced by Team Ramsey--with impunity in Boulder, no less.

    "University of Colorado Law Professor Paul Campos declared the letter a 'reckless exoneration.' He went on to state, 'Everyone knows that relative immunity from criminal conviction is something money can buy.
    Apparently another thing it can buy is an apology for even being suspected of a crime you probably already would have been convicted of committing if you happened to be poor.'"
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