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  1. #61
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    cynic,

    I go with the confirmation of the paintbrush handle being a prop because pulling the handle would have ripped JonBenét's hair out.
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    Quote Originally Posted by koldkase View Post
    And here is the composite of the two pieces of broken paintbrush you helped me with, Cynic, but I rotated it so the section that is bent, flattened, and twisted shows up better. Maybe it gives us a better idea of how this was all done, piece by piece.

    I added some dimensions to the brush:
    I do have a guess as to what the length of the metal portion (ferrule and heel) is but because of quality issues I can't be sure. It's probably between 1.25 and 1.5 inches, though.
    The brush handle is quite thin in diameter, only slightly thicker than a typical pen, (and slightly shorter.)

    Last edited by cynic; May 12, 2012, 3:34 pm at Sat May 12 15:34:12 UTC 2012.

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    I purchased paintbrushes a couple of days ago to gain some perspective on size with respect to the 3/8 inch diameter paintbrush used in the crime.
    In the picture below are a ½ inch diameter by 13 inch long and a 3/8 inch diameter by 12½ inch long paintbrush along with a common 5/16 inch diameter x 6 inch long pen.




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    In the videos below I attempted to break my 3/8 inch diameter paintbrush into an approximation of the handle found with JonBenet. Breaking off the metal ferrule end was a bit difficult but not overly so.
    Breaking the other end was very easy but produced a lot of splintering.
    I would have to spend some time with a knife cleaning the splinters away in order to replicate the smoothness of the crime scene brush handle.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=olvrkvA5HHg

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=88a-7Y_qQ4w

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    Here are a couple of pictures from my paintbrush experiment:




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    Very well done, cynic.

    I have to tell you that I don't think I could create those breaks with my hands, having woman hands rather than big strong ones like you, I mean.

    So watching this, I'd say a woman couldn't do that, or at least, an average, not too athletic one. I also doubt a child could, even within a few weeks of turning 10.

    BUT...thing is, looking at the end of the paintbrush used in the ligature, the ferrule appears to be flattened and twisted...though the picture quality is such that I may be wrong about that.



    Though there is already a "dent" manufactured into the ferrule:



    Still, the broken ferrule appears to be flatter than that one indention--or are my eyes misreading the bad pictures?

    So maybe Elle is right, and it was put into a door or drawer to break?

    Or maybe it was stepped on and twisted to bread there? In which case, maybe a woman or 10 year old could do it? Or did it?

    Just an observation, but your first break with the ferrule end looks more like the break at the end of the "garrote" handle--little splintering, even a slight bevel on both yours and the "handle."

    Hm. Lots to ponder. And thanks so much for going to all this trouble. I've thought about it many times, but I love paintbrushes so I couldn't bring myself to break mine.

    I have to say, more and more it's appearing to me Patsy is the only one the evidence from that night continues to lead to consistently.

    "University of Colorado Law Professor Paul Campos declared the letter a 'reckless exoneration.' He went on to state, 'Everyone knows that relative immunity from criminal conviction is something money can buy.
    Apparently another thing it can buy is an apology for even being suspected of a crime you probably already would have been convicted of committing if you happened to be poor.'"
    FF: WRKJB?

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    22 TOM HANEY: Do you recall yourself having
    23 anything to do with that knife being there?
    24 PATSY RAMSEY: No. Is it on something? Is
    25 that --
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    1 TOM HANEY: I think that is just a shadow,
    2 but a reflection off the --
    3 PATSY RAMSEY: There. There is a tiny
    4 yellowish color there. Can you see that?
    5 I'm not sure if that is one of my kitchen
    6 knives, to tell you the truth. That must be something.
    7 TOM HANEY: We would have that.
    8 PATSY RAMSEY: I could see that. In the
    9 picture it looks like it is a very thin blade, like a
    10 grapefruit knife or something.
    I can't help but think that Patsy was trying to clue Haney in on the knife having been used on the pineapple.

    This is what I believe what happened: Patsy goes upstairs from the basement and grabs the first sharp implement she can think of--the kitchen knife she used earlier. The knife is used on the cord. She goes back upstairs with the knife up to the second floor. She places the knife on JonBenet's bed and cord fibers are deposited onto the sheets via secondary transfer. She grabs a blue elastic ponytail holder, picks the knife off the bed, and goes over to the laundry area. (I do not believe for one moment that JonBenet had her hair in a ponytail at the nape of her neck when she was at the Whites' house.) The knife is placed on the counter, the Swiss Army knife is retrieved from the cabinet above. She then returns to the basement with the new knife and ponytail holder.

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    KK and cynic,

    Just broke one of my art brushes with the basement door, and you know being a Senior I couldn't have snapped it with my hands. I Photographed it but I am stymied with windows 7. I used Irfanview for reducing the size when posting a photograh in FFJ with Windows XP which I still prefer. hate W7. It's probably too large. Didn't take long to break it between the metal part of the door where it locks. The metal edge was sharp where the lock is.

    I'll try it and see how it goes. Oh help it may blow the FJ margin! (?).
    I did try the XC and V code cynic but it wouldn't work for me. So sorry folks!
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    No problem, Elle. I resized it for you. Thanks for doing the experiment and posting the photo!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cherokee View Post
    No problem, Elle. I resized it for you. Thanks for doing the experiment and posting the photo!
    Thank you kindly Cherokee. Just couldn't resist breaking one of my own paint brushes with a door. I have many more!

    P.S. Please note boys and girls, this was a wooden door I used.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Elle_1 View Post
    KK and cynic,

    Just broke one of my art brushes with the basement door, and you know being a Senior I couldn't have snapped it with my hands. I Photographed it but I am stymied with windows 7. I used Irfanview for reducing the size when posting a photograh in FFJ with Windows XP which I still prefer. hate W7. It's probably too large. Didn't take long to break it between the metal part of the door where it locks. The metal edge was sharp where the lock is.
    Excellent work, Elle! - thank you.

    You produced a remarkably close break to what we see in the crime scene photo.
    Here is the comparison:


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    Quick question, Elle, did you break the other end of your brush as well?
    If you didn’t may I trouble you to do so, it would be interesting to see if you get a cleaner break than I did. I had a lot of splintering in my experiment.
    Also, the brush that you broke, was it a 3/8” (or 9.5 millimeter) diameter brush?



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