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    Quote Originally Posted by Elle_1 View Post
    I Photographed it but I am stymied with windows 7. I used Irfanview for reducing the size when posting a photograh in FFJ with Windows XP which I still prefer.[I] hate W7.
    I'll try it and see how it goes. Oh help it may blow the FJ margin! (?).
    I did try the XC and V code cynic but it wouldn't work for me. So sorry folks!
    Elle, sorry to hear that Windows 7 is causing you grief. I would be glad to help with any issues involving that feel free to PM me if you wish.
    With respect to resizing pictures, I use Photoshop or Corel Draw for most of my work, but Paint which is included with all versions of Win7 will do the job easily.
    I made a little video showing how its done and put it on YouTube for you.
    In the video I resized a 1200 pixel wide photo down to 700 pixels and that is generally a good width, 600 to 800 pixels or so.
    The explanation along with the video is below.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MiYPq1LGZt8

    To resize a picture using Paint:
    Open Paint by clicking the Start button , clicking All Programs, clicking Accessories, and then clicking Paint.
    Click the Paint button , click Open, click the picture you want to resize, and then click Open.
    On the Home tab, in the Image group, click Resize.
    In the Resize and Skew dialog box, select the Maintain aspect ratio check box so that the resized picture will have the same aspect ratio as the original picture.
    If the Maintain aspect ratio check box is selected, you only need to enter the horizontal value (width) or vertical value (height). The other box in the Resize area is updated automatically.
    To resize the picture so it's a specific size, click Pixels, and then enter a new width in the Horizontal box or new height in the Vertical box.
    Click the Paint button , point to Save as, and then click the picture file type for the resized image.
    Type a new file name in the File name box, and then click Save.
    Or if you prefer, simply click save and your original picture will be replaced with the resized version.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cynic View Post
    Excellent work, Elle! - thank you.

    You produced a remarkably close break to what we see in the crime scene photo.
    Here is the comparison:

    Thank you, cynic for taking the time to do this. I can see the similarity here. I tried to find a brush about the same size. I did have a few other photos, but thought this was the best one.

    Just noticed your post above about resizing etc.. You are a sweetheart for posting this. Thank you. Never had any problems with this until I left windows XP.
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    Quote Originally Posted by cynic View Post
    Quick question, Elle, did you break the other end of your brush as well?
    If you didnt may I trouble you to do so, it would be interesting to see if you get a cleaner break than I did. I had a lot of splintering in my experiment.
    Also, the brush that you broke, was it a 3/8 (or 9.5 millimeter) diameter brush?
    No. cynic, I just broke the brush end. It was a No.8 - 1/2" Winsor & Newton. I'll try breaking the tail end and see what happens.
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    Quote Originally Posted by koldkase View Post
    I have to tell you that I don't think I could create those breaks with my hands, having woman hands rather than big strong ones like you, I mean.
    Thanks for noticing - LOL
    So watching this, I'd say a woman couldn't do that, or at least, an average, not too athletic one. I also doubt a child could, even within a few weeks of turning 10.
    I would agree with you with respect to the ferrule end, but the other end was very easy to break, IMO.
    BUT...thing is, looking at the end of the paintbrush used in the ligature, the ferrule appears to be flattened and twisted...though the picture quality is such that I may be wrong about that.
    ...

    Still, the broken ferrule appears to be flatter than that one indention--or are my eyes misreading the bad pictures?
    The picture quality is nothing short of terrible, who knows what the actual shape is???
    So maybe Elle is right, and it was put into a door or drawer to break?
    As you can see, she was very successful using her method.
    Or maybe it was stepped on and twisted to break there? In which case, maybe a woman or 10 year old could do it?
    Today, I tried stepping on another brush to make the break, but perhaps because I was wearing running shoes with a lot of flex in the heel, I just ended up twisting the ferrule.
    Just an observation, but your first break with the ferrule end looks more like the break at the end of the "garrote" handle--little splintering, even a slight bevel on both yours and the "handle."
    It was closer but nothing compared to Elle's break.
    Hm. Lots to ponder. And thanks so much for going to all this trouble. I've thought about it many times, but I love paintbrushes so I couldn't bring myself to break mine.
    It's an unhealthy relationship you've got there.
    I have to say, more and more it's appearing to me Patsy is the only one the evidence from that night continues to lead to consistently.
    ITA

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    cynic,

    My hat is off to you and KK for the time taken to post all the photographs you have used. Once again, please excuse me for disliking Windows 7 and not progressing with it.

    Cherokee, before I post these, I hope you will help me out again. Thank you in advance.
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    This one doesn't look too bad! Different angle! My edit button for the post above didn't appear. I can't edit it, Cherokee. :(

    Cynic, one thing I should mention. The tail end of this brush didn't break on the first two tries because of it being thinner than the other end, it could bend easier because of the strong painted coating which gave it extra strength and allowing it to bend easily.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Elle_1 View Post
    cynic,

    My hat is off to you and KK for the time taken to post all the photographs you have used.
    My hat's off to you for all your efforts and for the sacrifice of your brushes. Thanks.
    I used your latest picture for this comparison:


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    I think you've cracked it, Elle. So to speak.... :lol:

    So I was exactly wrong...and the ferrule actually is so strong, it caused the paintbrush to break ABOVE the metal rather than AT the metal, even at the fattest part of the brush.

    Oh, good job, Elle! So sorry you broke your paintbrushes, though.

    Good job, TEAM GUTTAH! I swear, the BPD should hire us and maybe they'd get this case solved.

    Oh, wait...that's just what they DON'T want.
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    "University of Colorado Law Professor Paul Campos declared the letter a 'reckless exoneration.' He went on to state, 'Everyone knows that relative immunity from criminal conviction is something money can buy.
    Apparently another thing it can buy is an apology for even being suspected of a crime you probably already would have been convicted of committing if you happened to be poor.'"
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    Quote Originally Posted by cynic View Post
    My hat's off to you for all your efforts and for the sacrifice of your brushes. Thanks.
    I used your latest picture for this comparison:

    I just couldn't resist trying it for myself to see the results, Cynic. I see a similar break to the tail end on the right. I personally thought the garrote brush was a bigger size. Thank you for your encouragement to continue this. Anyone else trying this with a door, make sure you use the area where the metal door lock is because it can dent the wood. I have a few tiny dents in mine. The reason why I couldn't see the edit button in the larger photo above was because it was off the screen. :(


    My brushes are old and I don't paint on a canvas any more, but I still have painting sessions with the youngest grandchildren.
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    Quote Originally Posted by koldkase View Post
    I think you've cracked it, Elle. So to speak.... :lol:

    So I was exactly wrong...and the ferrule actually is so strong, it caused the paintbrush to break ABOVE the metal rather than AT the metal, even at the fattest part of the brush.

    Oh, good job, Elle! So sorry you broke your paintbrushes, though. :sad:

    Good job, GUTTAH PEEPS! I swear, the BPD should hire us and maybe they'd get this case solved.

    Oh, wait...that's just what they DON'T want.

    Not to worry about the brushes, KK. I'm not into painting the way I used to, so I have quite a few just lying there until the youngest grandchildren appear. Nice to still have some young ones around.

    Thank you KK and cynic for letting me join you in this wonderful project.
    Tried to print your instructions, cynic relating to the photos, but it's a hit and a miss with this Acer Windows 7. In fact I received a message saying my HP printer was not compatible with this computer. Frustrating!
    Hopefully one of my sons can fix it when they appear! (?).
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    Quote Originally Posted by icedtea4me View Post
    I can't help but think that Patsy was trying to clue Haney in on the knife having been used on the pineapple.

    This is what I believe what happened: Patsy goes upstairs from the basement and grabs the first sharp implement she can think of--the kitchen knife she used earlier. The knife is used on the cord. She goes back upstairs with the knife up to the second floor. She places the knife on JonBenet's bed and cord fibers are deposited onto the sheets via secondary transfer. She grabs a blue elastic ponytail holder, picks the knife off the bed, and goes over to the laundry area. (I do not believe for one moment that JonBenet had her hair in a ponytail at the nape of her neck when she was at the Whites' house.) The knife is placed on the counter, the Swiss Army knife is retrieved from the cabinet above. She then returns to the basement with the new knife and ponytail holder.
    Sorry I missed this last night, tea, as it was late and I was just skimming through.

    Your thoughts about that weird comment of Patsy's are very interesting. That hadn't crossed my mind, though I felt there was some hidden agenda going on there with Patsy--as ever. I was thinking she was trying to confuse LE--more. But you could be on to something about that pineapple.

    Thing is, LE has to have tested this knife for residue, fingerprints, etc. But we've never heard one peep about what they did or didn't find. Or maybe we did and I just don't remember. Was this some of that evidence Kane meant when he said we hadn't seen all of it?

    But you've hit upon another question that I now have about this ligature and paintbrush--always we try to answer questions and end up with more. Let's say Patsy was cutting that cord to make the ligature; why wouldn't she just get a pair of scissors? She had to have had them around the house. She had all kinds of crafts supplies in the basement. I'd guess she had a pair in the kitchen. She surely had a pair upstairs in her bathroom/dressing room. These are common places to keep scissors in a household--where you use them. I've always felt Patsy was the one looking in the JAR bedroom en suite bathroom drawers for something--very possibly scissors. Remember she stayed in that room when she was sick from her cancer treatments because the bathroom was closer to the bed, she said. She also said she kept her medical supplies in there, as well.

    You know, in her friend's book about Patsy, the one where family and friends paint her to be St. Patsy of the Paughs, someone brings up Patsy having families from the school over to make some things for a school project. I believe it was said Patsy provided the supplies, including scissors, paper, paints, etc. Burke served refreshments? I think that was the story.

    My point is, why saw away at the cord with a dull kitchen knife and/or a dull Swiss Army knife when scissors would have been easier? I'm referring to the chopped up, frazzled ends of the cord as we see them in the photos, of course, which don't look "scissor" cut. Compare to Dr. Meyer's cut: he had to get under the cord buried in JB's flesh, obviously, and I was thinking he used a sharp, surgical type of blade, but I may be wrong as I'm just guessing. Whatever he used, he got a neater cut, but still uneven.

    Your ideas about the sequence of events are interesting. I was thinking most of that "knife" action took place in the bedroom/laundry area outside JB's room--the drawers left half open, the door of the cabinet open, the knife on the dryer, etc. I'm still not sure about the cord "fibers" Smit said were found in the bed, though. I was trying to find that added information in the DOI paperback edition where it first appeared, and I swear I could not find it in any edition I could lay hands on in book stores, not even copies at used book stores. I had to wonder if that "info" was removed in later runs? It had me flummoxed, like the "disappeared" segment of the Geraldo episode where he played the enhanced 911 tape.

    But now that you've laid it out your theory like that, it does make me wonder how that Swiss knife got from the laundry area outside JB's bedroom where the maid hid it to the basement, where it was found by LE after the murder. If the cords were already cut upstairs near/over the bed, why bother to carry the knife into the basement?

    In fact, now I'm remembering some other questions I've had through the years, and I can't remember if they were resolved: there was one account of the Swiss knife being in the cellar room near the body. Then another stated the Swiss knife was found on a counter in the hallway leading to the cellar room. I do remember reading these, but it now escapes me what I concluded, if anything....

    Does anyone else remember this? If not, I'll go hunting it up again...sigh.

    I've been at this way too long.
    Last edited by koldkase; May 14, 2012, 10:59 am at Mon May 14 10:59:41 UTC 2012.

    "University of Colorado Law Professor Paul Campos declared the letter a 'reckless exoneration.' He went on to state, 'Everyone knows that relative immunity from criminal conviction is something money can buy.
    Apparently another thing it can buy is an apology for even being suspected of a crime you probably already would have been convicted of committing if you happened to be poor.'"
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    Quote Originally Posted by cynic View Post
    Excellent work, Elle! - thank you.

    You produced a remarkably close break to what we see in the crime scene photo.
    Here is the comparison:

    Excellent comparison! It looks to be as if the Ramsey brush has been "whittled" on the one end where it was broken in the middle. Maybe Burke had used it as one of his whittling projects after it was broken originally?



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