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    Default Jerry Sandusky Found Guilty on 45 Counts!!!

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    Jerry Sandusky the monster is held accountable and his sex abuse victims are heroes for testifying

    By Dan Wetzel
    Yahoo! Sports
    52 mins ago


    BELLEFONTE, Pa. – Juror No. 4, the foreman, gray-haired and middle-aged, stood high in the back row of the jurors' box, looked down at some sheets of paper, then at Jerry Sandusky and began to deliver a verdict a long, sad time coming.

    Guilty. Guilty. Guilty.

    Of involuntary deviate sexual intercourse. Of indecent assault. Of endangering the welfare of children.

    Guilty. Guilty. Guilty.

    Of terrorizing the poorest and most vulnerable of this area's youth. Of abusing his fame as a former Penn State defensive coordinator. Of conducting a charade of charitable work to supposedly help children.

    Guilty. Guilty. Guilty.

    Forty-five times it rang out. Juror No. 4 hammered each one home with the independent force each one deserved.

    There were just three charges Sandusky escaped on. After each of those not guilty counts, it seemed that the foreman raised his voice as he returned to this parade of guilty verdicts.

    He seemed to make sure each count deserved its own moment to linger, to emphasize the torture and pain and shattered innocence it produced. Oral sex. Anal sex. Fondling. One despicable act worse than the next.

    This here was a night of redemption, a predator laid bare with nowhere to hide, with no more lies to tell, with no one left to save him.

    "Mr. Sandusky," Judge John Cleland said when this dramatic, nearly eight-minute condemnation was finally, fully read, "you have been found guilty by a jury of your peers."

    [snip]

    Moments later Sandusky gave a quick wave to his family as he was led out sheriff's deputies. Judge Cleland will sentence him formally in about 90 days.

    The 68-year-old faces up to 442 years behind bars, or what might as well be forever and ever and ever some more. His defense attorney, Joe Amendola, hinted at an appeal, but it likely would be fruitless.

    On the other side of the courtroom, Victim No. 6, who as an 11 year-old in 1998 was abused by Sandusky in a Penn State locker room shower, an act that was investigated but never prosecuted, laid his head on the top of the bench in front of him and sobbed uncontrollably. He was soon hugging family members who had joined him.

    "I'm just overwhelmed," he said, now a grown man, strong and no longer timid in the face of an old pathetic coach.

    Soon reporters were racing out of the courthouse, set to break the news of the guilty verdict to a huge throng that had gathered on the steps. Dottie Sandusky was kneeling by then in front of her family, trying to provide comfort when the word of the verdict hit the masses.

    The roaring cheers and screams of joy swept right through the courthouse door, up the stairs and into the second-floor courtroom. They startled Dottie, whose head snapped up at the noise and then sunk down as she realized the people of Centre County were celebrating her husband's demise.

    [snip]

    For at least 15 years Sandusky quietly stalked this idyllic, Rockwellian community, preying on its most susceptible boys. Using his Second Mile charity to meet at-risk kids, he often fostered relationships with the poor, the fatherless, the troubled or even simply the bored.

    In one haunting bit of testimony, Victim No. 4 recounted that he compartmentalized the sexual abuse from Sandusky, and endured teasing from classmates who suspected something inappropriate because he had so few positives in his life. The chance to leave his little town and troubled home for afternoons hanging around the Penn State football program were enough, he testified.

    "I thought, 'I didn't want to lose this. This is something good happening to me,' " he said.

    This, time and again, is whom Sandusky chose to target, to trick, to molest, to injure forever. Under the auspicious of mentorship, he stripped them of their innocence and left them in a confused heap in an empty locker room or alone in a dark basement, used and discarded on some creepy waterbed.

    [snip]

    On and on it went. Years and years and years. Incident and incident and incident.

    Until finally, deep into a warm Friday night, Juror 4 stood up in that box, representing 11 other citizens that had poured over each and every allegation during 21 hours of deliberation, and read from those papers.

    Finally, it was over for Sandusky. Finally, the deception and protection were gone. Finally, this once hulking man, backed by the prestige of Nittany Lion football, propped up by the illusion of charitable work, had nowhere to run, no tale to tell, no one capable of keeping him from facing the awful truth of his life.

    Guilty. Guilty. Damn Guilty.
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    Cherokee, this is a well written article about a horrible event in those young boys (now men) lives. Ol Jer has finally gotten what he deserves. Prison is the only place for him now and I suspect he will be placed in a secure area for his own safety. Too bad because he would be finally be getting what he has dished out for all these years. I had been listening all day long to either HLN or In Session to see if a verdict would be coming in. Then when there was a burst of activity at the courthouse chambers and the Atty General showed up I guessed that a verdict wasn't far off. Those jurors did a great job. There were so many of them that had ties to Penn State that I had my doubts that a guilty verdict could be reached. Ol Jer wanted a jury of his peers and he got one. I'll bet he hoped he would get off because of it. Lucky for us he didn't.

    There will be appeals down the road mostly because of the rush to trial and not enough time for the defense to do their work...or so they say. And there will be other Civil lawsuits to come too. Perhaps even more young men willing now to come forward with their stories of abuse at the hands (and other body parts) of Ol Jer.
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    Quote Originally Posted by zoomama View Post
    Cherokee, this is a well written article about a horrible event in those young boys (now men) lives. Ol Jer has finally gotten what he deserves. Prison is the only place for him now and I suspect he will be placed in a secure area for his own safety. Too bad because he would be finally be getting what he has dished out for all these years. I had been listening all day long to either HLN or In Session to see if a verdict would be coming in. Then when there was a burst of activity at the courthouse chambers and the Atty General showed up I guessed that a verdict wasn't far off. Those jurors did a great job. There were so many of them that had ties to Penn State that I had my doubts that a guilty verdict could be reached. Ol Jer wanted a jury of his peers and he got one. I'll bet he hoped he would get off because of it. Lucky for us he didn't.

    There will be appeals down the road mostly because of the rush to trial and not enough time for the defense to do their work...or so they say. And there will be other Civil lawsuits to come too. Perhaps even more young men willing now to come forward with their stories of abuse at the hands (and other body parts) of Ol Jer.
    Well said, Zoomama! I was so afraid Jerry would walk. The ways juries are these days (OJ, Casey Anthony, for example), the guilty sometimes go free; thumbing their noses at the justice system and victims.

    What is horrible is that Jerry put his victims through hell AGAIN just so he could possibly get off on the charges. I think Jerry is so sick, he enjoyed listening to what he did to them. He smiled and nodded through most of their testimony and smiled all the way through the DA's closing argument, until the end when the prosecutor stood by Jerry and talked about the pieces of the victim's lives Jerry had stolen.

    I hated seeing Jerry's toothy grin every day and hearing about him chuckling at the defense table, as if this were all just a big joke. I was SO GLAD to see Jerry's disgusting grin wiped off his face as he did the perp walk to the police car after the guilty verdicts came down. Jerry never thought anyone would go up against the great Sandusky, and if they did, he would be protected by those in authority at Penn State. For once, the good guys won, and I am so relieved.
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    Do you think that Dottie Sandusky has any part in this guilty verdict? By that I mean do you think she knew what he was doing all these many years and just didn't care?
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    Quote Originally Posted by zoomama View Post
    Do you think that Dottie Sandusky has any part in this guilty verdict? By that I mean do you think she knew what he was doing all these many years and just didn't care?
    I do think Dottie knew something was going on; how could she not? IMO, Dottie is like a mother who won't believe her daughter when she tells her mom her step-dad is abusing her. The mother doesn't WANT to believe her husband is sexually abusing her daughter, so she goes into complete denial. She doesn't want it to be true, therefore, it's not. Period. It's a terrible psychological coping tool, but many people resort to it in desperation to keep their make-believe world from crumbling.

    All the time Jerry spent with those boys alone, Dottie had to rationalize away, if she didn't know the truth outright. Jerry was alone late at night in the showers at Penn State, and down in the basement, with those Second Mile young boys. Jerry always brought one of them along on trips, and slept in THEIR rooms with them instead of with Dottie, supposedly to provide a sense of safety to the boy. When Dottie caught Jerry in that hotel bathroom with the one boy, Jerry left quickly and then tried to blame the boy, telling Dottie the boy was wanting to go home. So, Dottie comes in and yells at the boy and tell him he's ungrateful. She related that story on the stand. It shows that Jerry always had an excuse for when he was caught (like telling that coach who caught Jerry with a boy late at night that they were practicing wrestling moves).

    It's obvious Dottie HAD to dismiss any suspicions about Jerry or the horrible truth would come out. Her entire life was based on a lie. And that lie began early.

    Jerry never had any interest in dating girls. Finally, his mom is the one who arranged for him to meet and marry Dottie. Jerry went along with it because, back then, that's what you did. You married a nice, respectable girl and tried to fit into an accepted role. The problem is - Jerry isn't sexually attracted to females or males his age; he is attracted to pre-pubescent boys. Once they started growing pubic hair/turning 15 or so, Jerry discarded them and groomed another YOUNGER boy for conquest.

    I don't think Matt Sandusky is the only adopted son who was abused, and I also think there was a string of victims before him. Jerry didn't start sexually abusing children in middle age. This has been going on a long time, and Dottie has let it go on; seeing and hearing nothing by choice because the other option was too painful to her. Yes, Dottie knew what Jerry was doing, but her need to erase that truth from her reality overcame the obvious moral necessity to help the boys. Just like those who stand by and let atrocities happen, Dottie is also culpable in Jerry's crimes.
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    Chero, all that you said is so true. I think Dottie, Sarge, knew about his weakness and let it go on and on because it would crumble their "status" in the community. First Jer was the defensive football coach and held in high regard, then his work in establishing "the Second Mile". He was a saint. Or so the community dubbed him. Of course JoPa was a saint too. The world of football at Penn State is king because of the money raised when they played and were televised. Millions could be made from that.

    What really bothers me is the testimony of that last young man who said he screamed at top volume for help and no one came to help him. Dottie had to have heard not just his screams but all of them and ignored them all. Now I wonder how she feels about it all. She has plenty to answer for some day when she meets her maker. All the law suits that will come will help to knock down her life style and empty their bank account and savings and pensions. Goody.
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    Quote Originally Posted by zoomama View Post
    Chero, all that you said is so true. I think Dottie, Sarge, knew about his weakness and let it go on and on because it would crumble their "status" in the community. First Jer was the defensive football coach and held in high regard, then his work in establishing "the Second Mile". He was a saint. Or so the community dubbed him. Of course JoPa was a saint too. The world of football at Penn State is king because of the money raised when they played and were televised. Millions could be made from that.

    What really bothers me is the testimony of that last young man who said he screamed at top volume for help and no one came to help him. Dottie had to have heard not just his screams but all of them and ignored them all. Now I wonder how she feels about it all. She has plenty to answer for some day when she meets her maker. All the law suits that will come will help to knock down her life style and empty their bank account and savings and pensions. Goody.
    It is a delicious irony that everything Dottie tried to keep by ignoring the cries for help is now being taken away from her. I'm sure Dottie probably rationalized the boy's screams as Jerry and the boy "rough housing around" - you know, good clean fun. After all, wasn't that ALL Jerry ever did? Horseplay in the showers that started with throwing liquid soap and ended with sexual abuse. Horseplay in the weight room that started with "wrestling moves" and ended with sexual abuse. Horseplay in the basement that started with "back cracking" and "blowing on a stomach" and ended with sexual abuse.

    Because of who Jerry was in the community, he got away with being in dark locker rooms and showers late at night with young boys. He got away with sleeping in the beds of young boys he brought to out of state games, even though he had six kids of his own who needed his attention. He got away with repeatedly raping and molesting young, fatherless boys because even the school counselors wouldn't believe it when victims revealed what Jerry Sandusky had done to them.

    In some ways, it reminds me of the Ramsey case in that you never really know what goes on behind closed doors. The Ramseys had a facade much like the Sanduskys, and it was a facade that was vigorously defended, much as Dottie has defended Jerry.

    I recently read an article on the dynamic of families entrapped in keeping the secret of molestation and sexual abuse, and it is one of NEVER talking about the elephant in the room. It's like a delicate house of cards that is so unstable, any hint about the reality inside could make the whole thing come down. Thankfully, there were people courageous enough to take on the Sandusky house of cards and perversion.

    I think it's reprehensible that Sandusky's attorneys don't care about the victims or what they went through. They don't care that Sandusky has been convicted by the evidence. All they want to do is try to appeal on a technicality - truth be damned. It is a spit in the face of the victims, and I hope to God Sandusky's lawyers are not successful in their appeal attempt. I despise the Sanduskys and their attorneys for putting those boys through such cruel public torment. There is no hell hot enough.

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    Angry THIS IS DISGUSTING! Sandusky is defiant, wants "people to know that he's not guilty"

    Who does he think he's fooling? Sick pervert. He can't even admit the truth when it's public for all the world to see!

    The game is up, Jerry! Thanks to the courage of your victims and other witnesses, we know what you were doing all those years. Don't like the loss of your freedom and being in jail? How do you think those young boys felt when they were forced to be your sexual servants and imprisoned by your perversions?

    How DARE you be "defiant"! You should be crawling on your knees, asking forgiveness and begging for mercy. How dare you try to keep up the charade of innocence when you took away the innocence of so many children. YOU. MAKE. ME. SICK.



    http://www.washingtonpost.com/nation...Y1V_story.html

    Defense lawyer: Ex-Penn St. assistant Sandusky wants ‘people to know that he’s not guilty’

    By Associated Press, Updated: Monday, June 25, 3:32 PM

    BELLEFONTE, Pa. — A lawyer for Jerry Sandusky says the retired Penn State assistant football coach wants “people to know that he’s not guilty.”

    Sandusky was convicted Friday of 45 counts for sexually abusing 10 boys over 15 years.

    Karl Rominger, who represents Sandusky along with Joe Amendola, says he visited the 68-year-old convict at the Centre County jail Monday.

    Rominger says Sandusky’s mood is defiant.

    [snip]

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    cherokee and zm. I saw this case on tv recently and it made me feel sick inside. Oh good grief, I have to be thankful my three sons were never in any trouble because they were all into soccer here in Canada, and they were all involved with attending soccer practice etc. Parents have to be trusting of coaches when it comes to their sons or daughters being in their control for hours on end. I am so glad he was found guilty. How many more are out there we don't know about? They will have to do something more concrete about protecting and guarding students during their training sessions.
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    Cherokee, the reality of this Sandusky horror is EXACTLY like the Ramsey case: rich, powerful people covering up for a sexual assault, predatory behavior, etc.

    In the Ramsey case, it led to a horrible death for the victim. But those rich, powerful people are still covering it up, aren't they?

    One thing I have heard stated by experts who have been discussing the Sandusky case and trial goes to the heart of a true predatory child molester: THEY NEVER ADMIT THE TRUTH. EVER.

    Do you really think that the sick, perverted, brute Jerry Sandusky cares AT ALL about his victims? Doing what he did to COUNTLESS HELPLESS CHILDREN, do you really think he's now going to say Sorry?

    No, that's not how these monsters are built.

    In the end, there is no justice for what Sandusky has done. His victims at least have a legal verdict giving them some measure of relief knowing he won't be doing thing again, unless he's put in jail/prison with young boys.

    And frankly, what we know of Penn State's involvement in this, I wouldn't put it past them, as I hold them EQUALLY RESPONSIBLE FOR THE MOLESTATION OF THESE CHILDREN.

    They KNEW. They COVERED IT UP. They ALLOWED IT TO CONTINUE WITH FULL AWARENESS THAT SANDUSKY WAS RAPING CHILDREN, STILL IN CONTACT WITH CHILDREN AT CAMPS ON THEIR GROUNDS, STILL USING THEIR SHOWERS.

    I hope those victims OWN PENN STATE--and frankly, BURN THOSE LOCKER ROOMS TO THE GROUND.

    "University of Colorado Law Professor Paul Campos declared the letter a 'reckless exoneration.' He went on to state, 'Everyone knows that relative immunity from criminal conviction is something money can buy.
    Apparently another thing it can buy is an apology for even being suspected of a crime you probably already would have been convicted of committing if you happened to be poor.'"
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    Quote Originally Posted by zoomama View Post
    Chero, all that you said is so true. I think Dottie, Sarge, knew about his weakness and let it go on and on because it would crumble their "status" in the community. First Jer was the defensive football coach and held in high regard, then his work in establishing "the Second Mile". He was a saint. Or so the community dubbed him. Of course JoPa was a saint too. The world of football at Penn State is king because of the money raised when they played and were televised. Millions could be made from that.

    What really bothers me is the testimony of that last young man who said he screamed at top volume for help and no one came to help him. Dottie had to have heard not just his screams but all of them and ignored them all. Now I wonder how she feels about it all. She has plenty to answer for some day when she meets her maker. All the law suits that will come will help to knock down her life style and empty their bank account and savings and pensions. Goody.

    Of course his wife knew. So did the coaches and administrators at Penn State. I can't believe most of the employees at Second Mile didn't know. Who do these people think they're kidding? They knew and they all ALLOWED HIM TO DO IT by turning their heads. Why? BECAUSE THEY KNEW THEY'D LOSE THEIR STATUS, POSITIONS, and ABILITY TO MAKE HUGE MONEY WITH ASSOCIATED JOBS if they took on the MEGA INSTITUTION CALLED PENN STATE by blowing the whistle.

    I hate to sound cynical, dear FFJ friends, but life has taught me few people are actually brave enough to fight for the truth unless it's THEIR lives that are being destroyed. So they close their eyes and make excuses to assuage any guilt they might feel: I'm probably imagining things; there's nothing I can do but get myself fired; it's not my responsibility; etc.

    Look at the OLD FARTS they sent in to "vouch" for Sandusky at trial: Oh, WE ALL SHOWER WITH CHILDREN! I hope LE immediately sent detectives out to run through these potential PERVERTS' lives with a fine tooth comb. If I had a child anywhere NEAR them in the last 50 years, I'D BE ALL OVER EVERY ONE OF THEM.

    BECAUSE THEY ALL KNEW THE TRUTH AND THEY LIED, IGNORED, AND COVERED UP FOR A 6' 6" MAN WHO WAS RAPING CHILDREN UNDER THEIR VERY NOSES. What adult living on this planet in the 21st century sees a grown man doing what Sandusky did with boys he recruited and groomed, out IN PLAIN VIEW, in the public life of sports fame, and doesn't ASK QUESTIONS?

    When I first heard that this pervert had "adopted" children, I knew then and there he'd molested them, as well. I'm shocked that one has actually finally come forward, because he's now going to be ostracized from this so-called "family." He's going to get a double dose of Sandusky evil, because that's textbook dynamics of how the families of perverts keep their dirty secrets hidden. I hope the "adopted" Sandusky CHILD SEX SLAVES join the lawsuits and end up, along with all the other victims, with every single penny MR. AND MRS. PERVERT SANDUSKY EVER OWNED.

    Because the PERVERT AND HIS ENABLERS WILL ALL KEEP LYING about it. To LE, to us, to themselves.

    Not just for a game, either. It's for BILLIONS in revenue, including profits made by all the town's and state's support businesses which make the majority of their money from the draw of the university and the teams, money made from all the students who went/go to Penn State because of its national status in football and sports, and for millions in donations given from corporations and rich private individuals, one hand greasing the other in state contracts, associations, etc., because it's a "prestigious" institution of higher molestation...I mean learning. (Ha. Hitch your wagon to that, fat cats. Oh, we know it's no skin off your back, just those poor children's, backed up to Sandusky; and you couldn't care less about them, as they don't impact your corrupt soul. Besides, you probably have a few rapes under your own belts, actual or metaphorical, so la di da.)

    Here's what I believe: Penn State coaches, administrators who knew about Sandusky's little "problem," his wife, family, and friends, ALL ALLOWED JERRY TO RAPE THOSE CHILDREN FOR AT LEAST 12 YEARS WITH FULL KNOWLEDGE OF IT. And they closed their eyes and sanctioned it for money and power.

    Much like what happened in the Ramsey murder case, isn't it? Turns out conspiracy theories are not always nonsense.
    Last edited by koldkase; June 26, 2012, 11:57 am at Tue Jun 26 11:57:27 UTC 2012.

    "University of Colorado Law Professor Paul Campos declared the letter a 'reckless exoneration.' He went on to state, 'Everyone knows that relative immunity from criminal conviction is something money can buy.
    Apparently another thing it can buy is an apology for even being suspected of a crime you probably already would have been convicted of committing if you happened to be poor.'"
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    Default Well, isn't that too bad! Jerry wants out of his isolation cell or he'll go "nutty"

    Guess what, Jerry, you don't get what you want anymore ... although I'd love for them to put you in the jail general population! A few days in there, and you'll get what you deserve! It would save us all this stupid "appeals" nonsense and keep the taxpayers from having to pay to keep you alive for the next 20 years or so.


    http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-504083_1...g-to-go-nutty/

    Report: Jerry Sandusky wants out of isolation cell, says "I am going to go nutty"

    June 26, 2012 12:07 PM
    By Crimesider Staff


    (CBS) BELLEFONTE, Pa. - Jerry Sandusky's lawyer told a Pennsylvania reporter Monday that his client is not suicidal and wants out of the isolation cell where he is being held after his conviction on 45 counts of child-sex abuse last week.

    According to Sara Ganim of the Harrisburg Patriot-News, attorney Karl Rominger was the former Penn State assistant coach's first visitor in the Centre County Jail. Ganim reports that Rominger told her no other visitors have been allowed to see Sandusky while he awaits a psychological evaluation.

    "He's anxious to be able to move around," Rominger said. "His exact quote to me: 'I don't think I'm suicidal. I'm dealing with this but if I have to sit around in this cell for a few more days, I am going to go nutty.' "

    [snip]
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