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    Default In-Depth Discussion of Kolar's Book "Foreign Faction: Who Really Kidnapped JonBenet?"

    From Foreign Faction: Who Really Kidnapped JonBenet Ramsey?

    If you're purchasing the book, you can order here at Kolar's website and get an autographed copy.

    Because Kolar begins his book by interweaving speculation, theory, and facts, which I think you can only understand and appreciate by reading it yourself, I'm going to just quote some things that I noted as significant info, from an evidentiary point of view, for me anyway.

    Regarding the head blow, in the "kidnapping" scenario he creates at the beginning, Kolar writes:

    From p. 15:

    The injury to her brain was serious, and for all intents and purposes, she gave the appearance of being dead. But that eventually was determined not to be the case. Her heart continued to beat for what was estimated by pathologists to be another ninety (90) minutes, slowly filling her cranium with blood. Due to the lethality of the blow to her head, however, it is unlikely that she ever regained consciousness.


    From p. 16:

    Death was ruled by the coroner to be homicide by asphyxiation, and time of death was later estimated to have been at approximately 1:00 a.m. on the morning of December 26, 1996.


    I know TOD has been debated and this has been the general consensus on the forums, but it has always been ambiguous as far as a LE source. Maybe it's just been too long since I read the early books, but this is why I appreciate Kolar's concise revisiting of the evidence like this. He speaks from the case file information.

    After completing his "kidnapping" scenario attempting to explain the evidence as the work of the Foreign Faction, Kolar changes to straight up recounting of the case as it unfolded in reality. Most of this we are all very familiar with, but through they years a lot has been disputed or forgotten, and for those who are new to the case and want to catch up, it's a very well-written summary of what happened that morning, taken from police reports, interviews, and witness statements available to Kolar.

    So take or leave the following as it suits you:

    P. 26:

    [BPD Officer] Reichenbach was shown the ransom note on the floor and, reading it, he began to formulate a response plan to the kidnapping. The note had specifically stated that the family was being watched. It seemed unlikely that a kidnapper would be parked outside the Ramsey home watching for police activity, but it wasn't unreasonable to think they could be monitoring police radio frequencies, so Reichenbach ordered radio silence for the remainder of the call. Any further communication between officers working the case would be conducted by cell phone.


    I include this because it explains another point of view about why the BPD presence in the home wasn't considered to be a problem. Also the decision to use cell phones to prevent radio monitoring also fits with the information we have from other sources (among them, Thomas' book and John Ramsey himself in his Wolf deposition) that the BPD "borrowed" the Ramseys' cell phones that morning because the BPD said their cell phone batteries were dead, as well. (You all know my thoughts about the cell phone issues.)

    Kolar details that John and Patsy both told LE, as well as others in the house that morning at various times, the doors and windows were all locked, even checked by them that morning and the night before. Kolar's information comes from police reports and interviews with those with the Ramseys that morning.

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    The ransom note stated that kidnappers would call with instructions for the family between "8:00 and 10:00 am" and the passage of this time came and went, without any observed comment from Ramsey. It wasn't long after this that Arndt lost track of his movements. She reported that she first made note of his absence at around 1040 hours, and he didn't reappear until noon. Nearly 1 1/2 years would pass before John Ramsey explained this absence.


    How many times have we seen Ramsey change this story? I include it because Ramsey has whittled his absence down to about 10 minutes at this point in his telling of the events.

    Here's something we haven't heard before:

    Page 37:

    French had remained at the home throughout the morning and observed additional behavioral clues that tickled his sixth sense. For one, Patsy Ramsey had wanted him to remove his gun belt and uniform shirt as he stood by in the house. He thought it an odd request since he was there protecting the family against members of a "foreign faction" who had entered her home and kidnapped her daughter.


    Arndt was left alone in the home after the ransom call did not come by 10 a.m. This led to the infamous blunder she will be remembered for, and we all know how this went. But I think it's worth remembering what led to her mistake.

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    She had observed a marked difference in John Ramsey's mood when he re-surfaced at noon. He was anxiously pacing around the house shortly before 1300 hours, and in an attempt to keep his mind occupied, Arndt suggested that he check the house from "top to bottom" for anything unusual.


    Kolar wrote that Detective Whitson had called the FBI early that morning to assist with the kidnappinig. On p. 41 he writes that after the body had been found by John and Fleet, "...Sergeant Larry Mason arrived on the scene at 1320 hours and was accompanied by Denver FBI Supervisory Agent Ron Walker. They had learned of the discovery of JonBenet's body while meeting on the investigation at the Boulder Police Department."

    Kolar writes here of John's call to arrange a flight to Atlanta that afternoon, when John said something strange:

    Page 41:

    The nature of this call was passed along to Mason, and he too spoke with Ramsey about leaving town. John Ramsey reportedly told Mason that he had to leave to attend a meeting "he couldn't miss." Sergeant Mason eventually convinced the father of the murdered child of the necessity of remaining in Boulder.


    We all know Ramsey's excuses about that, but later in the book it gets even stranger. Father Holverstock, the Ramseys' pastor who had been called to the home by Fernie to help calm the Ramseys early that morning, was interviewed by LE:

    Page 88

    Father Holverstock advised he had been heating a glass of water in the kitchen microwave when things began to happen. Fleet White had a look on his face that he'd "never seen before," and racing past him through the kitchen, exclaimed that JonBenet had been found.

    The next thing he knew, he was standing in the foyer area near the top of the basement stairs, and John Ramsey had his daughter in his hands. It was Holverstock's recollection that Ramsey blurted out, "I don't think he meant to kill her, because she was wrapped in a blanket," or that "she was warm, she was wrapped in a blanket."


    Kolar has already recounted by this point that White and Arndt both said the child was cold to the touch, with the smell of death, Arndt said.

    I have to stop here. Others who have the book might want to bring in the details they find important.

    In particular, I want to go over chapters 5 and 6. At this point in the book, Kolar begins recounting details about the autopsy, with many revelations about Dr. Meyer's findings and actions as he determined there were prior vaginal injuries and called a meeting of an existing Boulder committee of child safety and abuse professionals to decide what to do next.

    And to me, this is what we've long awaited.
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    I had a hard time while reading this book to distinguish between what I thought might be new info and just stuff that I had forgotten about or that might have been old news. So having said that here is some info old or new it was different.

    On pg. 30 "Victim Advocates arrived on scene at approximately 6:45 AM as CSIs processed the scene for latent fingerprints. They reportedly followed the CSIs around cleaning up the messy fingerprint powder and were unwittingly destroying additional trace evidence that might have been discoverable."

    I had understood that many of the friends that showed up that morning were helpful Hannas who cleaned up things around the house but this is the first mention of Victim Advocates. And that they arrived so early in the morning.
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    Again about the train tracks...they have a male end and female end and hook into each other accordingly. It's been years since I put train tracks together but that is the way they go. The book had pictures of the overlay of the marks on JB and the overlay.... Pg.386. On pg. 387 is a picture of the male end of train track after pressing on the palm of Deputy Sandoval and leaving the marks. Very clear photos.

    Chief Kolar gives credit to the officer who discovered this train track idea. Sergeant Harry Stephens who had been involved in the surveillance of Past Jays (from Chapter One) called Kolar and mentioned the idea. "O" gauge style train track has 3 pins but usually the middle ones fall out. So the outside pins in the male end measure perfectly.
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    Quote Originally Posted by zoomama View Post
    I had a hard time while reading this book to distinguish between what I thought might be new info and just stuff that I had forgotten about or that might have been old news. So having said that here is some info old or new it was different.

    On pg. 30 "Victim Advocates arrived on scene at approximately 6:45 AM as CSIs processed the scene for latent fingerprints. They reportedly followed the CSIs around cleaning up the messy fingerprint powder and were unwittingly destroying additional trace evidence that might have been discoverable."

    I had understood that many of the friends that showed up that morning were helpful Hannas who cleaned up things around the house but this is the first mention of Victim Advocates. And that they arrived so early in the morning.
    Do I remember that Detective Whitson called those Advocates after he called the FBI that morning?

    I understand mistakes were made, but really, all the people at the house already and he calls MORE over while they're trying to negotiate dealing with kidnappers to get the child back?

    Yes, so much evidence was destroyed.
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    "University of Colorado Law Professor Paul Campos declared the letter a 'reckless exoneration.' He went on to state, 'Everyone knows that relative immunity from criminal conviction is something money can buy.
    Apparently another thing it can buy is an apology for even being suspected of a crime you probably already would have been convicted of committing if you happened to be poor.'"
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    Henry Lee said it best..."Rice Already Cooked"...crime scene destroyed.
    It's probably too late to get justice for JonBenét. Maybe it always was. But knowing where things went wrong is the first step to not going there again. **-- Alan Prendergast-Dec 21, 2006--**

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    From the book pg. 102

    "3 distinct voices were heard on the 911 tape...Proof of the Ramsey's deception was beginning to erode the foundation of he kidnapper / intruder theory in the eyes of BPD investigators, and they contemplated the questions.
    .Why would the Ramseys feel the need to mislead authorities about their son being asleep during the 911 call.

    . Were they attempting to conceal information that he may have had about the circumstances of his sister's death?

    Those voices at the end of the 911 tape pointed to family involvement and some type of cover-up."

    So it seems that very early on the BPD was suspicious of family involvement.
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    Quote Originally Posted by zoomama View Post
    From the book pg. 102

    "3 distinct voices were heard on the 911 tape...Proof of the Ramsey's deception was beginning to erode the foundation of he kidnapper / intruder theory in the eyes of BPD investigators, and they contemplated the questions.
    .Why would the Ramseys feel the need to mislead authorities about their son being asleep during the 911 call.

    . Were they attempting to conceal information that he may have had about the circumstances of his sister's death?

    Those voices at the end of the 911 tape pointed to family involvement and some type of cover-up."

    So it seems that very early on the BPD was suspicious of family involvement.
    Thanks for posting this.

    This chapter on the 911 call is definitive. Team Ramsey will be livid.

    Kolar's explains the call and that the actual 911 dispatcher was the person who first alerted LE to the "voices" on the end of the tape. She heard them FIRST HAND.

    Kolar details that the enhanced 911 tape elicited numerous independent conclusions about the actual words and voices heard by Aerospace and the BPD rep who went to review the enhanced tape. As Thomas told us, they all came to the same conclusion as to what was said and the gender and age of the speakers.

    Thank you, Chief Kolar. I know right now you're thinking of much more than this case, with the horrible attack in Aurora and the resulting devastating tragedy of the victims. Our hearts and prayers go out to all.

    But you have put to rest a long debated piece of evidence: the enhanced 911 call is real and it's evidence that holds up: three speakers were recorded in the house on the 911 call that morning.
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    "University of Colorado Law Professor Paul Campos declared the letter a 'reckless exoneration.' He went on to state, 'Everyone knows that relative immunity from criminal conviction is something money can buy.
    Apparently another thing it can buy is an apology for even being suspected of a crime you probably already would have been convicted of committing if you happened to be poor.'"
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    If we can move the detailed book discussion to this thread, I think it will be easier to follow.

    Cynic posted this, and my response follows:

    Quote Originally Posted by cynic View Post
    [snip]
    [Kolar} does address the fibers on the duct tape in the book:
    "BPD investigators had learned that fibers from Patsy Ramsey’s black and red Essentials jacket were consistent with those found on the duct tape."
    [snip]
    Another part I found brilliant is the chapter on the ransom note: Kolar confirms Thomas' evaluations and then some.

    There is no question: Patsy wrote that note.

    "University of Colorado Law Professor Paul Campos declared the letter a 'reckless exoneration.' He went on to state, 'Everyone knows that relative immunity from criminal conviction is something money can buy.
    Apparently another thing it can buy is an apology for even being suspected of a crime you probably already would have been convicted of committing if you happened to be poor.'"
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    Quote Originally Posted by Moab View Post
    Henry Lee said it best..."Rice Already Cooked"...crime scene destroyed.
    Still there was plenty of evidence to use...but for Alex Hunter and Mary Lacy. They cooked the main course and ate it.

    "University of Colorado Law Professor Paul Campos declared the letter a 'reckless exoneration.' He went on to state, 'Everyone knows that relative immunity from criminal conviction is something money can buy.
    Apparently another thing it can buy is an apology for even being suspected of a crime you probably already would have been convicted of committing if you happened to be poor.'"
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    Quote Originally Posted by koldkase View Post
    Thanks for posting this.

    This chapter on the 911 call is definitive. Team Ramsey will be livid.

    Kolar's explains the call and that the actual 911 dispatcher was the person who first alerted LE to the "voices" on the end of the tape. She heard them FIRST HAND.

    Kolar details that the enhanced 911 tape elicited numerous independent conclusions about the actual words and voices heard by Aerospace and the BPD rep who went to review the enhanced tape. As Thomas told us, they all came to the same conclusion as to what was said and the gender and age of the speakers.

    Thank you, Chief Kolar. I know right now you're thinking of much more than this case, with the horrible attack in Aurora and the resulting devastating tragedy of the victims. Our hearts and prayers go out to all.

    But you have put to rest a long debated piece of evidence: the enhanced 911 call is real and it's evidence that holds up: three speakers were recorded in the house on the 911 call that morning.
    So we have definitive proof Burke was up and standing close enough to his parents for his voice to register on the phone receiver as Patsy made her 911 call.

    The 911 dispatcher heard it.

    The independent voice technicians heard it.

    THE RAMSEYS LIED. BURKE WAS NOT ASLEEP AND/OR IN BED THROUGH EVERYTHING THAT MORNING, AS THE RAMSEYS CLAIMED. HE WAS STANDING RIGHT THERE NEXT TO THEM.

    Maybe that's one reason Patsy hung up on the dispatcher so quickly, she didn't get the receiver placed correctly and the call didn't disconnect. Patsy didn't want the dispatcher to hear Burke's voice and John's reply.
    As soon as the ransom note was matched to Patsy's handwriting and linguistics, the Ramseys distanced themselves from it and have refused to talk about it since! The ransom note is the one verifiable link to JonBenet's killer, and the Ramseys want nothing to do with it! Why? The answer is obvious!

    RANSOM NOTE ANALYSIS: http://www.forumsforjustice.org/forums/showthread.php?t=6404

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cherokee View Post
    So we have definitive proof Burke was up and standing close enough to his parents for his voice to register on the phone receiver as Patsy made her 911 call.

    The 911 dispatcher heard it.

    The independent voice technicians heard it.

    THE RAMSEYS LIED. BURKE WAS NOT ASLEEP AND/OR IN BED THROUGH EVERYTHING THAT MORNING, AS THE RAMSEYS CLAIMED. HE WAS STANDING RIGHT THERE NEXT TO THEM.

    Maybe that's one reason Patsy hung up on the dispatcher so quickly, she didn't get the receiver placed correctly and the call didn't disconnect. Patsy didn't want the dispatcher to hear Burke's voice and John's reply.
    Burke's sleeping? I wonder why they were so certain he was sleeping.
    I know I would check to make sure he was breathing, After all, his sister was
    missing.
    I think he did what he was told to do,, stay in bed and pretend you are sleeping.
    Even the Fernies asked how Burke could be sleeping with all commotion.
    They said he was an early riser like Doug.
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    Wasn't Burke questioned after he was whisked off to the Whites' house? The police got his grandmother's permission or something. I've always wondered what he said.

    (Or do I have this completely wrong?)

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