Page 2 of 9 FirstFirst 123456 ... LastLast
Results 13 to 24 of 108
  1. #13
    Join Date
    Jul 2003
    Location
    Canada
    Posts
    8,381

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by Cherokee View Post
    I think Mary Lacy's high-handed "exoneration" PR stunt, and James Kolar's recent book, are maybe starting to shake things loose. There were a lot of people in LE who were more than angry at what Lacy did, and it's obvious it must have infuriated some GJ jurors as well. The people who know the evidence and truth of the case are sick and tired of John Ramsey playing the innocent victim card (while playing his millionth round of intruder golf).

    Among many things, I'm interested in archaeology, forensic anthropology, genetics and DNA. The more I read, the more I'm convinced the original partial DNA, and the so-called "touch DNA," are contaminent. There is no other explanation for it. In fact, I'm reading a book right now that talks about the struggle to get viable DNA from ancient bones. Several years ago, some 10,000-year-old Native American skeletons were found buried in Florida, and a study was commenced to extract and sequence their DNA. However, what came back from one set of bones was the DNA result of a person with European ancestry! Even with all the precautions of gloves and masks, a sterile lab, etc., somehow a miniscule amount of a team member's DNA had gotten into the sample and completely contaminated and skewed the results.

    JonBenet, and her clothing, were handled by many different people and techs. In addition, she even had a jacket, then a blanket, thrown over her after John brought her up from the basement. Both of them would have come in contact with the crotch and waistband of her long-johns. Then we have Patsy lying on top of JonBenet's body in the very clothes she wore to the White's party the night before! You can't tell me there wasn't some "touch DNA" transference at that point!

    As far as we know, Lacy did not test DNA from any of the LE present or the EMTs who moved JonBenet's body to the morgue, nor did she test any of the lab workers, including Dr. Meyers. The "touch DNA" found on JonBenet came from five men and one woman. We know a soccer team did not kill JonBenet. That is contaminent DNA, just like the contaminent DNA that is on your clothes and mine.

    Mary Lacy knows her ridiculous and invalid exoneration of the Ramseys is on shaky DNA ground, and that's why she refused to take questions at the "exoneration" press conference, and why she also refused to release the DNA results for examination.

    I say we call Mary Lacy's bluff! Let's have ANOTHER independent lab do DNA analysis on JonBenet's clothing and see if those same results can be replicated! That is the standard of true scientific inquiry, especially with a new and experimental technology such as "touch DNA."
    Why don't we just put you in charge, Cherokee? Great post!
    elle: The RST can't handle the truth!
    Just my opinion.

  2. #14
    BobC is offline Poster of the EON - Fabulous Inimitable Transcript and Book Reviewer
    Join Date
    Jan 2002
    Posts
    4,435

    Default

    Great points, C--unfortunately a sizable portion of the population doesn't seem to be able to grasp what DNA even is. I've tried explaining it many times and some people just can't get it.

    I will say this--if we get to a point where a tiny fragment of one DNA strand is enough to clear people with a dead six year old in a locked home with a staged crime scene, then we are all in trouble.

  3. #15
    Join Date
    Nov 2001
    Location
    Southern Silicon Valley !!
    Posts
    2,285

    Exclamation

    Thanks Cynic for these tapes. The second one won't play but I did hear all the others. Carol mcKinley mentioned how all of the fibers in the duct tape matched all Patsy's sweater. The last tape speaks of Paula Woodard and has a song dedicated to her. Big sleez me thinks. Also they mention that there is a special hell for Tracy on one side and Mary Keenan "Tracy" Lacy on the other Oh Peter Boyles had fun calling her that.

    That first caller had some kind info didn't he. Then later a woman caller asked if there could be one of those special rare kinds of persons who have 2 separate but different kinds of DNA in their bodies. I forget the name of it but it is a real thing.

    Also was brought out and it was new for me to hear that JonBenet did always go to school in perfect condition. Some days she was disheveled and hungry and others she was all clean and bright and shiny. That is the first time I have heard that.

    It was good listening to it all. Thanks again. Now I'm very curious about the person who holds that one piece of evidence that has never come forward. Bring it on.
    "When are we going to get our heads out of the sand and understand that sometimes really nice people who look good on the outside are dastardly on the inside." Wendy Murphy, former prosecutor, MA

  4. #16

    Default Tom Miller was on Boyles radio show today

    ...without mention the name of the blog, here are snippets of today's Boyles radio show. He has Tom Miller as his guest.

    'Doc Miller said that the movie RANSOM was played on that Christmas night at Fleet and Priscilla White's house!

    Doc said he believes Alex knew the Boulder DA's office could not win against the skill of the $$$$$ megabucks Haddon law firm.

    Doc said that publishers in the US WILL NOT publish a book unless it is pro Ramsey on this case. He could not find a publisher for his book, nad had to publish it in Japan, though now he says he may self publish it. As he noted the first chapter is on his website '

    'Doc said Craig Lewis of The Globe called Jeff Shapiro "idiot boy." He said Shapiro would come over to Judith Phillips house unannounced whnever he wanted for information.

    He said Craig Lewis was heads above the other tabloids, because he moved to Boulder, he had private investigators in Denver, had fist fulls of cash from The Globe, could get PRIVATE PHONE RECORDS, so so much for any conspiracy theory about any phone records, because Craig Lewis knows if that is true or not that they exist or not.

    Craig Lewis plays himself in "Perfect Murder, Perfect Town", instructing the new reporter Shapiro. After the Globe supposedly threatened Steve Thomas was info about his mother if he didn't give them an interview after he resigned, Shapiro went to the FBI about The Globe and Craig Lewis and Tom Miller. The Globe took a deal for $100,000 donation to CU's journalism school for Craig Lewis. Tom Miller did not take a deal, he took the case to trial, and won. '

    'Peter Boyles talked about when HE was a witness at Tom Miller's trial, the trial where both Fleet White and Steve Thomas DID NOT show up. He talks about testifying about being at a "private gathering" and being shown a copy of the then sealed ransom note. He invoked the reporters shield when asked who his sources were, etc.'


    Hope I wouldn't get in trouble by posting this....

    DEAR Cynic, where are you? We need your help to post the link to this show as well....PLEASE!!!!!

    OK, here is the link to today's radio show:

    http://www.khow.com/player/?station=...l&mid=22839066
    Last edited by OpenMind4U; February 1, 2013, 9:31 pm at Fri Feb 1 21:31:32 UTC 2013. Reason: to add link

  5. #17

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by OpenMind4U View Post

    DEAR Cynic, where are you? We need your help to post the link to this show as well....PLEASE!!!!!
    Short on time today, but here it is, edited:

    http://www.forumsforjustice.org/foru...ad.php?t=10214

  6. #18

    Default

    Thank you Cynic!

  7. #19

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by zoomama View Post
    The second one won't play but I did hear all the others.
    Hmm. I just checked all the links and they were good. PM me if you are still experiencing problems.

  8. #20
    Join Date
    Dec 2001
    Location
    In a World With Too Much Crime
    Posts
    7,818

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by OpenMind4U View Post

    'Doc Miller said that the movie RANSOM was played on that Christmas night at Fleet and Priscilla White's house!
    "Ransom" must have been playing in theaters in Boulder at the time.

    "Nick of Time" was playing on TV that night at the Whites, per their house guest.

    "Then let's focus our attention on the ransom note. From the very first line problems emerge. Addressed to Mr. Ramsey, it reads: "Listen carefully! We are a group of individuals that represent a small foreign faction." Of course, a real "foreign faction" would never refer to themselves as such. The whole line eerily echoes the movie Nick of Time which aired at 7:30 on Christmas night on a local Boulder cable station. The movie concerns the kidnapping of a six year old girl by an unnamed political faction and in the film the victim is told to "Listen to me very carefully!" Bill Cox, a guest that night of the Ramseys' friends the Whites, remembered watching it."


    http://rense.com/ufo6/inno.htm


    It's probably too late to get justice for JonBenét. Maybe it always was. But knowing where things went wrong is the first step to not going there again. **-- Alan Prendergast-Dec 21, 2006--**

    ______________________
    Bring all our Missing Home www.usearchut.org
    Prayers for our military who are protecting our freedom.

  9. #21

    Default

    Very interesting. Thank you Moab!

    So, movie with KIDNAPPING theme was played in the house, with Ramsey as the guests, less than 6 hours before JonBenet was 'kidnapped'?!!! Unbeliavable!!!!!

    I didn't know this fact. I'm sure, Ramsey would say they didn't watch it, they were busy playing with children....

  10. #22
    BobC is offline Poster of the EON - Fabulous Inimitable Transcript and Book Reviewer
    Join Date
    Jan 2002
    Posts
    4,435

    Default

    For the first time since I started following this case, I believe we are going to find out exactly what occurred that night.

  11. #23
    Join Date
    Jul 2003
    Location
    Canada
    Posts
    8,381

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by OpenMind4U View Post
    Very interesting. Thank you Moab!

    So, movie with KIDNAPPING theme was played in the house, with Ramsey as the guests, less than 6 hours before JonBenet was 'kidnapped'?!!! Unbeliavable!!!!!

    I didn't know this fact. I'm sure, Ramsey would say they didn't watch it, they were busy playing with children....
    Thank you all, for refreshing my memory with these latest posts!
    elle: The RST can't handle the truth!
    Just my opinion.

  12. #24
    RiverRat's Avatar
    RiverRat is offline FFJ Sr. Member Extraordinaire (Pictured at Left is Patsy Ramsey)
    Join Date
    Nov 2001
    Location
    NoneYa Beessness
    Posts
    7,824

    Thumbs up

    Huge thanks for nipping that one before it grew roots Moab and also to Bob for the full body chillbumps his comment just gave me!
    "Don't play dumb with me, RR! You're no good at it." The Punisher

    "Although no one is anticipating a prompt resolution to this long and much-detoured case, perhaps - just perhaps - might we see one of those moments “when a chance arrow of history scores a perfect bullseye on a deserving target”? Steve Thomas 2009

    "Justice hasn't had a chance so far. Anyone who doesn't have this as their prime goal, we'll have a falling out with." Fleet White - Time Magazine

    "What happens is that evil comes in," Fleet says. "If you don't have truth, all you have are lies, then what comes in is evil. And evil just does its thing. In the Ramsey case, it just did its thing, and it's eaten up so many people."



Similar Threads

  1. Peter Boyles interviews Stan Garnett, Alan Pendergast and more (Oct. 25 – 30, 2013)
    By cynic in forum Justice for JonBenet Discussion - Public Forum
    Replies: 3
    Last Post: December 13, 2013, 11:10 pm, Fri Dec 13 23:10:06 UTC 2013
  2. Peter Boyles interviews Tom "Doc" Miller (Feb. 1, 2013)
    By cynic in forum Justice for JonBenet Discussion - Public Forum
    Replies: 8
    Last Post: September 28, 2013, 2:59 pm, Sat Sep 28 14:59:41 UTC 2013
  3. Peter Boyles looks back
    By cynic in forum Justice for JonBenet Discussion - Public Forum
    Replies: 74
    Last Post: May 28, 2012, 8:33 pm, Mon May 28 20:33:09 UTC 2012
  4. Peter Boyles 2
    By koldkase in forum Justice for JonBenet Discussion - Public Forum
    Replies: 69
    Last Post: August 25, 2006, 10:27 am, Fri Aug 25 10:27:00 UTC 2006

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •