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  1. #61

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    KoldKase,

    I saw your fine comments on the Camera's website. I read them before I read your name, and thought, geez, that sounds like KoldKase, and I looked at the name and laughed, because I knew it was you!

    John doesn't want anything released, he doesn't want the world to know the truth about himself and Patsy. When he said release everything, I thought yes, just do it. But, I knew he was just daring them to do something, so that he can file some sort of lawsuit trying to prevent it.

    LeRoy ought to be making some sort of statement soon. He and Lacy will probably have a press conference "reminding" us that Lacy "cleared" the Ramseys.

    The above is just my opinion, right or wrong, but please leave it at FFJ.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wombat View Post
    Also, I bet John Ramsey is staying with Melinda and her doctor hubbie (hubbie doctor?). He's getting older and she is the eldest child.
    Even though he looks older (despite the plastic surgery), John was born 9 Dec 1943, so he's only 69 years old. He is still living in Charlevoix, Michigan, with his latest wife, Jan.

    http://flightaware.com/live/flight_e...t?ident=N2059W

    Date Aircraft Origin Destination Departed Arrival Duration

    22-Oct-2013 BE35/G New Richmond Rgnl (KRNH) Boyne City Muni (N98) 02:10PM CDT 05:05PM EDT Scheduled

    22-Oct-2013 BE35/G Pierre Rgnl (KPIR) New Richmond Rgnl (KRNH) 11:18AM CDT 01:52PM CDT En Route

    18-Oct-2013 BE35/G New Richmond Rgnl (KRNH) Pierre Rgnl (KPIR) 11:20AM CDT 01:51PM CDT 2:31

    18-Oct-2013 BE35/G Boyne City Muni (N98) New Richmond Rgnl (KRNH) 09:20AM EDT 10:57AM CDT 2:37


    When I last checked a couple of months ago (before doing so today), John was still flying all over the northern Midwest, like he's done since moving back to Charlevoix. He's got to keep those golf courses busy! Paying lots of "greens fees" is John's way of helping the economy.

    It's been interesting to check John's plane log and note he doesn't fly his plane to where Burke or Melinda live. I think I've seen one flight to Burke's location in the past several years, and none to Melinda's. When John was dating Beth Holloway, he flew to the Deep South quite a bit, and he also flew from Michigan to Arkansas many times (before briefly living there), so it's not like he only flies locally.

    http://www.forumsforjustice.org/foru...ead.php?t=8887
    Last edited by Cherokee; October 22, 2013, 1:44 pm at Tue Oct 22 13:44:21 UTC 2013.

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    Wow, Cherokee, I didn't remember that JR doesn't go where his children are. That is very telling.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wombat View Post
    Wow, Cherokee, I didn't remember that JR doesn't go where his children are. That is very telling.
    Yes, it is.

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    I think they are releasing the indictment!
    http://www.dailycamera.com/news/boul...nly-indictment

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    remember this?

    http://extras.denverpost.com/news/ram1014a.htm

    Oct. 14, 1999

    STATEMENT

    The following statement was issued Wednesday night by John and Patsy Ramsey and their lawyers:

    After almost three years of intense legal scrutiny, with the aid of a grand jury of honest and responsible citizens, it has been determined that there is simply not sufficient information to indict anyone for the murder of JonBenet. We take no satisfaction in this result because a child killer remains free and undetected.

    The Ramsey family lives in a nightmare. There has been no end to the public lynching and speculation which marred this case from the beginning. The public has been misled by a constant stream of attacks and false information from people all too eager for a headline regardless of truth. Those persons who have biased this case by leaking false, incomplete or misleading information are as corrupt as those who report it. The time has come for an accounting of those responsible for this spectacle.

    Experienced detectives were removed from this investigation in 1998. It is our request that this investigation be renewed by returning these skilled investigators to authority. This crime cannot be solved by those who close their minds to any lead which is inconsistent with their biases.

    We thank our many friends and family members for standing by us during this terrible ordeal. We also extend our thanks to the grand jurors who took so much time out of their own lives to assist the investigation.

    There is still much work to be done. We remain committed to finding our daughter's killer. With God's help, we will succeed.
    Last edited by Cherokee; October 23, 2013, 10:27 am at Wed Oct 23 10:27:53 UTC 2013. Reason: to add date
    M. Lacy: "You know, no-one is really cleared of a homicide until there’s a conviction, in court beyond a reasonable doubt. And I don’t think you will get any prosecutor… unless they were present with the person at the time of the crime… to clear someone."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cherokee View Post
    Yes, it is.
    Cherokee,

    I hope you are being paid for all this plane tracking!? You're doing a great job!
    elle: The RST can't handle the truth!
    Just my opinion.

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    Quote Originally Posted by madeleine_ws View Post
    remember this?

    http://extras.denverpost.com/news/ram1014a.htm

    Oct. 14, 1999

    STATEMENT

    The following statement was issued Wednesday night by John and Patsy Ramsey and their lawyers:

    After almost three years of intense legal scrutiny, with the aid of a grand jury of honest and responsible citizens, it has been determined that there is simply not sufficient information to indict anyone for the murder of JonBenet.

    Lies, lies and more lies! For 14 years the Ramseys have lied to us about the Grand Jury results.

    Why am I not surprised? They lied about everything from the beginning, in trying to cover up what really happened to JonBenet.

    It's no wonder John Ramsey is fighting the release of the Grand Jury indictment! It may be the first card to fall in the Ramsey's carefully-constructed HOUSE OF LIES. Once that happens, the whole web of deceit may start to unravel. John Ramsey's 17-year charade of "poor me, I'm so persecuted and innocent" is showing itself for THE FARCE it has always been!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Elle_1 View Post
    Cherokee,

    I hope you are being paid for all this plane tracking!? You're doing a great job!
    Thanks, Elle, but I'm not being paid, and I wouldn't expect to be. The tracking is free for the past month or so, and anyone can sign up for an account with the Flight Aware company at the link. It's only if you want the logs going back for a year or more that it costs money. That's why I have to check it every couple of months because the current logs are available without charge.

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    FRIDAY IS THE DAY, FOLKS!!! IT'S GOING TO BE RELEASED!!!!!

    http://www.thedenverchannel.com/news...n-patsy-ramsey

    The above is just my opinion, right or wrong, but please leave it at FFJ.

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    what are you saying now John?!

    http://www.dailycamera.com/news/boul...ohn-patsy-case

    It appears that the District Attorney, presumably acting at the discretion of the grand jury, prepared a series of possible charges regarding John Ramsey and Patricia Ramsey based on the fact that the child had died and that there was evidence that a sexual assault of the child had occurred," Lowenbach sai.
    M. Lacy: "You know, no-one is really cleared of a homicide until there’s a conviction, in court beyond a reasonable doubt. And I don’t think you will get any prosecutor… unless they were present with the person at the time of the crime… to clear someone."

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    Quote Originally Posted by madeleine_ws View Post
    what are you saying now John?!

    http://www.dailycamera.com/news/boul...ohn-patsy-case

    It appears that the District Attorney, presumably acting at the discretion of the grand jury, prepared a series of possible charges regarding John Ramsey and Patricia Ramsey based on the fact that the child had died and that there was evidence that a sexual assault of the child had occurred," Lowenbach sai.
    John is saying, "File something, I paid you big bucks, now get on it!"

    The above is just my opinion, right or wrong, but please leave it at FFJ.



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