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    Quote Originally Posted by Cherokee View Post
    ACR, it is SO GOOD TO SEE YOU!

    I cannot thank you enough for everything you have done to document the Ramsey case on your website. You are a treasure!

    http://www.acandyrose.com/jonbenetindex.htm
    I second that!

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    Quote Originally Posted by ACandyRose View Post
    Somebody please tell me I didn't die and that this is all just a dream?

    OMG, OMG, OMG !!
    Hello there ACR. Hope you are doing okay! I personally thought with Patsy Ramsey having passed on, this case would never be opened again.
    John Ramsey and young Burke must be in dire straits over this latest news.

    So nice to see your name here again.

    Love, Elle
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    Just my opinion.

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    Fifteen minutes to closing time at the Boulder courthouse. I guess John doesn't have the money to file an injunction and fight a losing battle against the release of his indictment.

    HOWEVER, you can bet all of Lin Wood's ill-gotten gains that John will now wave Lacy's fake DNA get-out-of-jail card to try to minimize the damage from the Grand Jury indictment.

    In the very least, the release of the GJ indictment tomorrow will make the rounds of internet websites and some newspapers. As several people have said, it's going to hamper John's "victim" act and raise doubts in the general public about just how innocent he really is.

    If John Ramsey lied about the indictment, even going to far as to publish that lie FOUR TIMES in his own book, then what ELSE has he lied about?

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    I'm so far behind on this thread, but gratefully, y'all got it covered!

    And it's so good to see this gathering, because everyone here and at Websleuths, so committed to justice for those who can't speak for themselves, have hearts made of gold.

    Thank you from my heart and soul.
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    "University of Colorado Law Professor Paul Campos declared the letter a 'reckless exoneration.' He went on to state, 'Everyone knows that relative immunity from criminal conviction is something money can buy.
    Apparently another thing it can buy is an apology for even being suspected of a crime you probably already would have been convicted of committing if you happened to be poor.'"
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    Quote Originally Posted by Carol View Post
    Charlie Brennan was just interviewed on FOX News. Then Judge Andrew Napolitano, FOX's legal expert, was interviewed. He thought it was strange that the grand jury voted to indict the Ramseys when grand juries basically do what the prosecutor wants them to do. And the prosecutor obviously did NOT want the Ramseys indicted.
    Jezuz, these people have NO IDEA what they're talking about most of the time.

    Michael Kane was HIRED by Hunter as a Special Prosecutor for the purpose of presenting this case to the Grand Jury. Hunter did so only under pressure from the Governor to convene the Grand Jury after Thomas resigned and his letter to the Governor was published by the media. Faces were red and egos were scalded over that letter in this media saturated case.

    Faces and egos are scalded NOW, too. I LUVLUVLUV that y'all are hauling out all the lies and devious machinations engineered by Team Ramsey. Even better is reading Thomas handing Lin Wood his BALLS, burnt and still smoking, UNDER OATH. lol Loved that, ACR!

    Finally, when we'd all but given up, the Universe shifted...KARMA HAS ARRIVED.


    "University of Colorado Law Professor Paul Campos declared the letter a 'reckless exoneration.' He went on to state, 'Everyone knows that relative immunity from criminal conviction is something money can buy.
    Apparently another thing it can buy is an apology for even being suspected of a crime you probably already would have been convicted of committing if you happened to be poor.'"
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cherokee View Post
    So, I got a friend of mine who lives Charlevoix to find out what John Ramsey was doing today. Here's the short video he sent back:

    LOVE it Cherokee!!

    Quote Originally Posted by koldkase View Post
    Jezuz, these people have NO IDEA what they're talking about most of the time.

    Michael Kane was HIRED by Hunter as a Special Prosecutor for the purpose of presenting this case to the Grand Jury. Hunter did so only under pressure from the Governor to convene the Grand Jury after Thomas resigned and his letter to the Governor was published by the media. Faces were red and egos were scalded over that letter in this media saturated case.

    Faces and egos are scalded NOW, too. I LUVLUVLUV that y'all are hauling out all the lies and devious machinations engineered by Team Ramsey. Even better is reading Thomas handing Lin Wood his BALLS, burnt and still smoking, UNDER OATH. lol Loved that, ACR!

    Finally, when we'd all but given up, the Universe shifted...KARMA HAS ARRIVED.

    Koldkase!! Re bold..

    Originally Posted by ACandyRose View Post
    Somebody please tell me I didn't die and that this is all just a dream?

    OMG, OMG, OMG !!
    to Tez!! Bob!! and I'm here!!! I saw RiverRat's post on Facebook regarding the release. Waiting patiently for tomorrow!!!
    ~~"Veni, Vidi, Velcro!
    I came, I saw, I stuck around!~~

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    Sheesh! Bucky's back. Sooner or later it was bound to happen that someone would dig him up for a comment. Get ready to if you click on this link:

    JonBenét Ramsey grand jury indictment puts DA decision in spotlight
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    Quote Originally Posted by otg View Post
    Sheesh! Bucky's back. Sooner or later it was bound to happen that someone would dig him up for a comment. Get ready to if you click on this link:

    JonBenét Ramsey grand jury indictment puts DA decision in spotlight
    But even Tracey is stumped by Friday's disclosure.

    "I have no idea what that means," he said.
    Here are a few CLUES for you, Tracey: and it's about time you get an idea.



    From The Bonita Papers

    DR. MCCANN

    In August, the Boulder police department contacted Dr. John McCann, one of the nation’s leading experts on child sexual abuse. McCann had agreed to assist the police department in determining if JonBenet had been a victim of sexual abuse during or before her murder. McCann was sent the autopsy report and photos. According to McCann, examination findings that indicate chronic sexual abuse include the thickness of the rim of the hymen, irregularity of the edge of the hymen, the width or narrowness of the wall of the hymen, and exposure of structures of the vagina normally covered by the hymen. His report stated that there was evidence of prior hymeneal trauma as all of these criteria were seen in the post mortem examination of JonBenet.

    There was a three dimensional thickening from inside to outside on the inferior hymeneal rim with a bruise apparent on the external surface of the hymen and a narrowing of the hymeneal rim from the edge of the hymen to where it attaches to the muscular portion of the vaginal openings. At the narrowing area, there appeared to be very little if any hymen present. There was also exposure of the vaginal rugae, a structure of the vagina which is normally covered by an intact hymen. The hymeneal orifice measured one centimeter which is abnormal or unusual for this particular age group and is further evidence of prior sexual abuse with a more recent injury as shown by the bruised area on the inferior hymeneal rim. A generalized increase in redness of the tissues of the vestibule was apparent, and small red flecks of blood were visible around the perineum and the external surface of the genitalia. It was his opinion that the injury appeared to have been caused by a relatively small, very firm object which, due to the area of bruising, had made very forceful contact not only with the hymen, but also with the tissues surrounding the hymen. McCann believed that the object was forcefully jabbed in – not just shoved in. Although the bruised area would indicate something about the size of a finger nail, he did not believe it was a finger, because of the well demarcated edges of the bruise indicating an object much firmer than a finger. McCann was not able to see any fresh tears of the hymen which he thought might be due to the lack of detail in the photographs. It was unclear where the blood on the perineum originated, since there were no lacerations visible in these photos. McCann also noted that in children of this age group the labia, or vaginal lips, remain closed until literally manually separated. In order for there to be an injury to the hymen without injuring the labia, the labia would have to be manually separated before the object was inserted. The examination also indicated that the assault was done while the child was still alive because of the redness in the surrounding tissue and blood in the area.

    McCann stated that this injury would have been very painful
    because the area of the injury as indicated by the bruise was at the base of the hymen were most of the nerve endings are located. Such an injury would have caused a six year old child to scream or yell. The doctor also stated that he assumed the object did not have jagged edges because there were no evidence of tears in the bruised area.

    McCann also noted that there appeared to be a bruise on the inner right thigh which he though might represent a thumb imprint from forcing the legs apart.

    Dr. McCann explained the term "chronic abuse" meant only that it was "repeated", but that the number of incidents could not be determined. In the case of JonBenet, the doctor could only say that there was evidence of “prior abuse". The examination results were evidence that there was at least one prior penetration of the vagina through the hymeneal membrane. The change in the hymeneal structure is due to healing from a prior penetration. However, it was not possible to determine the number of incidents nor over what period of time. Because the prior injury had healed, any other incidents of abuse probably were more than 10 days prior.

    In discussing perpetrators of sexual abuse on children, McCann stated that the majority of children this age are molested by someone with whom they have close contact most commonly family members. He explained that if the molester is a stranger or someone else with whom the child is not close, the child will usually tell someone or psychological problems appear which create behavior changes observed by their parents. Common symptoms would be eating disorders, nightmares or a variety of behaviors indicating that something is bothering them. Commencement or increased bedwetting is also commonly seen in sexually abused children. When asked about JonBenet's sexualized behavior during her pageant performances, McCann said that this was not necessarily a sign of abuse, since this was taught behavior for the pageants. Also, with children's exposure to sexually explicit television programs, sexualized behavior is no longer considered to be an indication of possible sexual abuse.

    Dr. Andrew Sirotnack from Children’s Hospital in Denver was also asked to review the medical findings and autopsy photographs. He confirmed McCann's determination of acute vaginal trauma during the assault on JonBenet, but He had not yet concluded that there was chronic abuse. Sirotnack had examined over 2,500 abused children during his career at Children's Hospital and had testified in approximately 50 - 100 criminal trials regarding sexual abuse on children.

    In September 1997, the police department held a meeting with McCann and three other child sexual abuse experts to go over their opinions based on their review of the autopsy results. Dr. Virginia Rau of Dade County, Florida stated that she observed fresh hymeneal trauma on JonBenet and chronic inflammation that was not related to any urination issues. Dr. Rau said, “In my heart, this is chronic abuse,” but feared that a defense argument would be made that this was only evidence of masturbation.

    Also agreeing with the findings of both McCann and Rau was Dr. Jim Monteleone of St. Louis. Dr. Richard Krugman, Dean of the University of Colorado Medical School, an expert first contacted for assistance in the Ramsey case by the D.A.’s office, was the most adamant supporter of the finding of chronic sexual abuse. He felt that in considering the past and present injuries to the hymen that the bedwetting/soiling took on enormous significance. He believed that this homicide was an indecent of “toilet rage” and subsequent cover up. He told the group of experts and detectives about another Colorado case where both parents had been at home and both were charged. “The JonBenet case is a text book example of toileting abuse rage," Krugman stated.

    All of the experts agreed that there was no way any of the recent or chronic abuse damage to the genitalia of the child was the result of masturbation.

    http://www.forumsforjustice.org/foru...ead.php?t=4502




    Do you have any idea of what this is truly about, Michael? Or do you still think it's about YOU and your career as Professor Poseur in the School of Journalism?

    "University of Colorado Law Professor Paul Campos declared the letter a 'reckless exoneration.' He went on to state, 'Everyone knows that relative immunity from criminal conviction is something money can buy.
    Apparently another thing it can buy is an apology for even being suspected of a crime you probably already would have been convicted of committing if you happened to be poor.'"
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    A big day for all of us tomorrow.

    How long have we been waiting for the actual truth to come out?

    And on this day I will be IN THE AIR AND MISS IT. Dang it.

    But that's OK. I am asking everyone to please email me links so as soon as I get off the plane I can read all about it.

    I'm flying to Seward Nebraska to be with the KlaasKids Team for a big Print-A-Thon.

    This is where parents bring their children to us and we can finger print them, give the parents DNA kits, and Marc Klaas will talk to them about child safety. It's all free.

    If we have any FFJ members who are close by come and say hi OK?
    We will be at:
    Scribners Martial Arts International
    1053 South Street
    Seward, NE 6843
    Saturday 10 am to 2 pm.

    Back to the case.

    There is no way Lin Wood, John Ramsey, or Alex Hunter can back peddle this. They all LIED and MISLEAD everyone.

    Karma. It has yet to fail me.
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    I am unaware of anyone who's profited from exploiting the Ramsey murder over a longer period of time, with a greater disregard for the principles of accuracy and fairness, than the production team of Mills and Tracey.They truly do inhabit a different moral universe from real journalists. It's the difference between journalism and propaganda.
    Alan Prendergast,reporter for Westword

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    Quote Originally Posted by otg View Post
    Sheesh! Bucky's back. Sooner or later it was bound to happen that someone would dig him up for a comment. Get ready to if you click on this link:

    JonBenét Ramsey grand jury indictment puts DA decision in spotlight
    GIME. ME. STRENGTH. I can't even THINK about Michael Tracey without , much less READ what that brainless reprobate said!

    Tracey strung John Mark Karr along for years, listening to JMK's porno mind and encouraging him in his sick fantasies. Either Tracey KNEW he was setting up an innocent (but very disturbed young man) to be the fall guy for the Ramseys, or he is the stupidest man on earth! How could Tracey have sincerely believed Karr was JonBenet's killer, when Karr kept changing his story to match whatever Tracey told him?!!

    Furthermore, Tracey (and fellow idiot, Mary Lacy) never even read, or knew, the FACTS of the Ramsey case; in particular, that JonBenet was wearing a bracelet on Christmas night, which was an evidence detail already KNOWN ALL OVER THE INTERNET! Mary Lacy ARRESTED John Mark Karr on Michael Tracey's word and because SHE (and Michael Tracey) DIDN'T KNOW the very public information about that bracelet was in the Ramsey case file!

    Why is ANY news organization publishing what Tracey thinks about the latest development? He's nothing but a Ramsey shill and doesn't know the facts of the case from a hole in the ground!
    Last edited by Cherokee; October 26, 2013, 10:15 pm at Sat Oct 26 22:15:10 UTC 2013.

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    Thanks for all you do, Tricia, and have done in the past!

    As opposed to John & Patsy Ramsey's fake (and now defunct) "Foundation," you truly do help children and fight for justice. Your efforts are appreciate more than you know.

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    No CandyRose--you didn't die and imagine this. But since you brought it up,no one has permission to die until we get our greedy hands on these indictments! THAT IS AN ORDER!!!



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