Dark Blue Fibers

Discussion in 'Justice for JonBenet Discussion - Public Forum' started by LurkerXIV, Aug 14, 2002.

  1. LurkerXIV

    LurkerXIV Moderator

    This is just a coincidence, but dark blue fibers were found on three victims of abductor-murderer Richard Marc Evonitz. Fibers found on Kati and Kristin Lisk, and on Sofia Silva, were from DARK BLUE FUZZY HANDCUFFS.

    You can see a picture of the handcuffs on the following pdf of evidence gathered from Evonitz's belongings:

    http://fredericksburg.com/News/FLS/2002/082002/08142002/evidence.pdf

    It appears that these are a tool preferred by child abductor-rapists. Of course, Evonitz' MO was to take the girls to his own home for his disgusting abusive practices. So I am not suggesting that he was the phantom intruder in the JBR case. I am just wondering if anyone in the Ramsey household used this type of cuffs for any purpose. Did John Ramsey and Marc Evonitz buy from the same catalogue?
     
  2. Alex

    Alex Member

    Was John's

    going into a porno shop a fact, or just a rumor. Was it in Boulder, or Amsterdamn? Do they sell those types of things in porno shops? I thought the dark blue fibers may have come from John's bathrobe, but I don't remember reading anywhere that they matched them to the robe or any other clothing in the house.
     
  3. ACandyRose

    ACandyRose Super Moderator

    hmmmmm

    Thinking of the Westerfield trial, I wonder if those handcuffs come in multiple colors like fuzzy orange.
     
  4. LurkerXIV

    LurkerXIV Moderator

    Alex and ACR

    I would imagine those things come in all colors.

    It was never established (that I know of) that JR visited porn shops in either Amsterdam or Boulder/Denver. I think that was a tabloid story. JR looks like so many other over-the-hill fifty-somethings who frequent such shops. It may have been a look-alike whom the clerk identified as John.

    It was speculated/reported somewhere that Patsy liked some adventurous sex, so I wouldn't be surprised if the King and Queen of Boulder had some interesting accessories to go with their mirrored bedroom ceiling.

    Sorry I cannot link sources. I lost all the info on my old hard drive.
     
  5. AK

    AK Member

    Adventurous sex, LOL!!!!!

    I'd rather cover my body in Alpo and roll naked in a cage of pit bulls than have sex with JR. I can't ever imagine him being attractive, even as a young man. Nopey-nope. Patsy, OTOH, has always struck me as a beauty, even now. Wouldn't care to have sex with her either, haha, but at least I can understand her appeal to people.

    Good catch on those handcuffs and blue fibers, LXIV. Next time I'm Valentine's Day shopping at the Pleasure Palace I'll check out the cuffs.

    That Free-Lance Star is a remarkable newspaper. I had never heard of it prior to its Evonitz coverage, but they deserve a Pulitzer for the work they've done. That list of props was something else.
     
  6. LurkerXIV

    LurkerXIV Moderator

    Hi, FedX

    Yes, that is a great newspaper. I've been following the Lisk/Silva cases for 5 years. I'm so glad the waiting is over for the parents. The Lisks and Silvas have always conducted themselves with the utmost dignity.

    It's unbelievable that Evonitz was living there in that lovely town, right in their midst, and he fell through the cracks. Partly due to that ignoramus chemist at the Richmond FBI who declared the fiber evidence to match another suspect--the poor guy who was then incarcerated, while Evonitz continued killing. TG, that stupid woman was fired.

    I'm waiting for Lou Smit to tell us that Evonitz was in Boulder on December 25/26 1996! Ooops, I forgot--Evonitz did not leave "War and Peace" ransom notes.
     
  7. LurkerXIV

    LurkerXIV Moderator

    Angel,

    Sorry for grossing you out. Are you home yet in Londontown?

    FedX: "I'd rather cover my body in Alpo and roll naked in a cage of pit bulls than have sex with JR."

    ROFL! That is the quote of the year.

    Where's Greenleaf? We need her to capture these witty sayings and do a thread on them again.
     
  8. Dunvegan

    Dunvegan Guest

    Re:

    Hmmm, FedX...wern't there supposedly photos, not allowed into evidence, of Marjorie Knoller doing something like that with her killer dog, Bane?

    I agree...JR has always struck me as a short, not-so-successful fella with a Napoleon Complex.

    <img src="http://www.forumsforjustice.org/images/bennaparte.jpg" width=30%>

    I really get the feeling that if not for the Paughs considerable support of his failed business ventures, John would be lizard-licking envelopes for a living, about now.

    There is at least one site where they sell furred orange wrist restraints (furry fabric inside leather buckle-able wrist restraints) for use in bondage games, however, this is a New Zeland company...but they do ship. Here's a photo of the product offering in red:

    <img src="http://www.dvice.co.nz/shop/prod_images/rest/2a.jpg">

    The best selling fur-around-regular-handcuff doo-dads (they look like the ones in the link to Evonitz's belongings above) are called "Furry Cuffs" and they are fabricated in colors, but not orange.

    Next time I roll over to the Castro District, perhaps I'll check into the shops to see if there are any orange fur restraints on sale...the benefits of living in a diverse metropolis...or as Blackbird likes to say, "The rich tapestry of life in The City...."
     
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  9. AK

    AK Member

    Oops

    I should have made clear the JR I wouldn't sleep with is John Ramsey. I'm sure OUR JR gets rave reviews from all her gentleman callers.

    Funny Napoleon image, Dunv. Fitting for Mssr. Rambo. He suffers from a short man's syndrome, even though integrity is the only thing he's short on.

    That Marjorie Knoller and her Presa Canario fetish was never explained in the courtroom due to it being inflamatory and not germane to the case, but there were saucy rumors of bestiality (poor dogs). Just the kind of stuff that would give a bone to David Westerfield.
     
  10. Watching You

    Watching You Superior Bee Admin

    Patsy? A beauty?

    Yuck. I have never thought Patsy to be even close to being a beauty. In fact, I thought she was just a touch above average when it comes to looks. Maybe it's because I look at the whole picture. Some of the most beautiful people are diminished by their personalities and actions. Perhaps this is one of the reasons I personally find Patsy unattractive.

    LOL, FedoraX, pretty funny. I've never given thought to the idea of having sex with either of the Rams, haha. What a thought, it sends me into gales of gut-busting laughter. It goes past repulsive - all I can think of is rolling around in a snake pit. Oh, gawd, halp me Jesus!!!!
     
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