A Note to the Ramseys Regarding the Westerfield Verdict

Discussion in 'Justice for JonBenet Discussion - Public Forum' started by Dunvegan, Aug 21, 2002.

  1. Dunvegan

    Dunvegan Guest

    John and Patsy...about the company you keep...it is utterly shameful.

    Cheerleaders for the convicted child murderer, David Westerfield, should look to the unanimous verdict of guilty of all counts and take note that justice does prevail.

    I still believe that the smartest thing the Ramseys can do is to disassociate themselves from anyone who publicly supports a child murderer.

    That is unless they feel comfortable in the company of Westerfield and his groupies...unless they feel at home with this company they now keep...unless they support those who support the murderers of innocent little girls.

    It is impossible for me to imagine any innocent parent of a murdered child consorting with Westerfield supporters.

    Not Marc Klaas. Not John Walsh. Not Erin Runnion. Not any innocent parent of a murdered child. None of them. Not a one of them would be even distantly associated with anyone who staunchly defended this, now convicted, child murderer, David Westerfield.

    Do the Ramseys have anything to say during this summer of the AMBER Alert about those that they support, and that in turn support child killers?

    Showing true colors?...Birds of a feather?...Take your pick.

    The Ramseys and Westerfield. What shameful company upon which to base one's notoriety.

    And the Ramseys are to thank for enabling a base of support of the likes of David Westerfield's cheerleaders. In their book about themselves, "Death of Innocence" the Ramseys both laude the source of the Westerfield cheering section...the same entire sad enterprise that has been fueled with Ramsey gasoline for years.

    John and Patsy...note that justice does prevail. And when it does, it does so swiftly, decisively, and unanimously.
     
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  2. LurkerXIV

    LurkerXIV Moderator

    Ramsey Silence

    Strange that the Ramseys, who are such publicity hounds and love appearing on GMA, LKL, etc., are avoiding the media in this "Summer of Abductions". You would think that they and their foundation would offer some sort of support to all these other parents who are desperately missing their children this summer.

    Perhaps Patsy is really dying, and doesn't have the energy to help these other parents. Perhaps John is constantly at her bedside, ministering to her every need. Perhaps monkeys will fly out of the nether regions of David Westerfield's most avid supporter, Susan Bennett.
     
  3. Watching You

    Watching You Superior Bee Admin

    The key words here

    are "any innocent parent of a murdered child "

    Which they aren't.
     
  4. Kelly

    Kelly Member

    Beautifully written, Dunvegan!

    You have expressed to the very core the feelings I have about the company that the Ramseys chose to support. They are on a big downward spiral after this verdict today. They have documented in black and white for the whole world to see, just who it is that they support and that would be those that thrive on defending child killers.

    As if accidently killing their daughter wasn't enough, they have to be on the same bandwagon and rally behind the lowest scum on earth. The company they keep makes me wonder if JonBenet's death was not an accident. If it were an accident, or if it were an intruder I don't see how they could validate those who are the lowest of low.

    Wow! My thoughts about the type of people they must really be is getting even worse. The Ramsey's support the people who support the likes of David Westerfield. WOW! Even for them that is low.
     
  5. LurkerXIV

    LurkerXIV Moderator

    Right on, Kelly

    "Wow! My thoughts about the type of people they must really be is getting even worse. The Ramsey's support the people who support the likes of David Westerfield. WOW! Even for them that is low."

    Remember, these pedophiles network. Even before NAMBLA was founded in the 1970's, there was a loosely organized underground of these scum, exchanging photos, videos, and audios.

    We know of at least one other international pedophile whom Bennett supported....Marcos Levis, a producer and exporter of the type of porn found on Westerfield's computer. (There is a warrant out on him, should he ever return to the US from South America). There seems to be more than a casual connection between Bennett and other pedophiles besides Westerfield.

    Why are the Ramseys so intimately connected to Bennett? She has visited their home several times, and is in almost daily contact with Lin Wood, the Ramseys' attorney. It may be time for the FBI to dig a little more deeply into the Bennett-Westerfield-Levis porn connection. And to investigate John Ramsey's place in all this.
     
  6. RiverRat

    RiverRat FFJ Sr. Member Extraordinaire (Pictured at Lef

    Absolutely Lurker

    Can someone refresh my memory on just how many un-biological children Mrs. Bennet said that she took into her home to care for?
     
  7. Kelly

    Kelly Member

    Lurker, you have convinced me. I am just shocked!

    I have thought of and read every scenario there is about JonBenet's death but up until reading your post could not totally comprehend that pedophilia was the root of it. I always just blamed the obvious sexual abuse on prior kid stuff and staging the night of her death. I thought Patsy lost it, accidently killed her and staged the rest. I still think she was accidently killed but not because Patsy lost control of her temper. I think Patsy did the staging afterward to cover up the butts of those involved.

    We know without a doubt that the Ramseys are supportive of Jameson's forum and all that represents. We know too that Jameson has supported Marcos Levis, and international pedophile and Westerfield, a convicted pedophile. That's pretty simple math to figure out.

    Thank you for bringing that to my attention Lurker. The true story of JonBenet's death is now obvious to me.
     
  8. Ayeka

    Ayeka Member

    Hmmmmm

    Great letter, Dunv. You can judge people by the company they keep. Jameson must have the worst judge of character of anyone I've ever known, and that doesn't speak well for Patsy and John at all.

    (Honestly, I expect one day to wake up and read in the news that Patsy has died shortly followed by John finally "coming clean" and pointing his finger at a woman who is no longer around to defend herself.)

    I think y'all are on to something re: a porno pedophile link...

    Ayeka
     
  9. Kelly

    Kelly Member

    River Rat

    A couple of weeks ago I remember reading on that other forum of hirs that she stated she had over thirty foster children. I went back just now to look and see how many but being there was so sickening I just couldn't bring myself to open any of those nasty threads.

    It really doesn't matter if the kids were biological or not....look at the Ramseys.
     
  10. Thor

    Thor Active Member

    Ditto. Dun, great letter. Too bad the *******s won't do the right thing.

    Regarding the sexual abuse aspect, I have always thought that one of the key elements of this this crime involved sexual abuse of JB. This is just judging from the evidence I personally have seen these past 6 years. I wish we were privy to all the evidence because maybe some of this speculation could be laid to rest but I truly believe it played a part somehow. I'm just not sure who the perp(s) was/is. I do not see this as just a fit of rage killing. To me, there were signs of sexual abuse but that is another story and has been discussed over & over. Even the experts are split on this. Anyway, great post Dun. Let's hope whoever did this will be brought to justice like Westerfield. But for some reason, I don't think I'll see it in my lifetime.
     
  11. ACandyRose

    ACandyRose Super Moderator

    LurkerXIV

    You wrote, "Marcos Levis, a producer and exporter of the type of porn found on Westerfield's computer. (There is a warrant out on him, should he ever return to the US from South America)."

    Tell me more.......please..

    Is this true? What kind of warrant is it? I noticed that he has not been seen since yonder forum closed the 911 forums. He raised quite a ruckus over there and his enemies were lining up at the door.

    What is interesting is that in a news article on the recent big porn bust that one of the men arrested had a poster of Ericka Baker (disappeared in Kettering, Ohio) and I know that Marcos Levis had a web site about her disappearance and he posted that he went to Kettering several times. I am aware of one trip he and another poster from yonder forum made to Erika's school where they took pictures and it didn't set too well with Erika's mother or the police.

    Many of us are also aware that he was the one who found the child porn on the Internet that was sent to the Fort Lipton police back in '98 by a certain individual trying to get the Pugh family investigated on porn charges.

    So what's the scoop and where did you find this information about Marcos Levis if you can tell me please?
     
  12. LurkerXIV

    LurkerXIV Moderator

    ACR,

    Please check your Private Message In-Box.
     
  13. Dunvegan

    Dunvegan Guest

    Do the Ramseys Support the Supporters of Convicted Child Murderer, David Westerfield?

    This begs the question: If the Ramseys are "tough" on pedophile murderers...then may we extrapolate that they are in all probability enormously pleased with the guilty verdict in the David Westerfield case?

    Or are these words from their book empty lies?

    The dissonance between what the Ramseys say and what the Ramseys do is deafening.

    John and Patsy Ramsey: are you supporters of David Westerfield, <b>yes or no?</b>

    If you do not support David Westerfield, why are you so intimately involved with the owner of the forum that is the most vocal defender extant of this convicted child killer and convicted owner of child pornography?

    If you do support David Westerfield, how do you reconcile that support of a convicted child murderer with what you say in <i>Death of Innocence</i>?

    Patsy, how about you bake up another batch of shamrock cookies and have the press over to explain this moral contradiction?

    Lies and facades are wretched hard to keep straight over time, nes pas?
     
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  14. Dunvegan

    Dunvegan Guest

    About the Allegations of Sexual Abuse in the JonBenet Ramsey Murder Case...

    The allegations that JonBenet suffered sexual abuse of some kind the night of her murder, and perhaps even before Christmas 1996, are prevalent in all of the books and reports on the Ramsey murder case. Even the Ramseys raise the issue in <I>Death of Innocence</I> so that they can expressly deny any involvement in this horrifying part of six-year-old JonBenet's trauma.

    <b><a href="http://www.cbn.com/ScottRoss/Culture/The_JonBenet_Ramsey_Case_Part1.asp">An interesting transcript of the two-part interview the Ramseys gave to the Christian Broadcasting Network on July 19, 2000</a></b> is still available at the CBN website.

    I believe that the Ramseys thought the CBN interview would be a "walk-over". However, as I have said before, their interviewer, Scott Ross is a wily and seasoned veteran reporter. It is possible that CBN took the Ramseys' use of their airwaves as somewhat self-serving and perhaps took exception to being "used" as a refuge of scoundrels simply because their content is conservative Christian in make-up.

    Mr. Ross did not flinch from asking the Ramseys about the allegations of sexual abuse that were raised after the autopsy report on JonBenet Ramsey was publicly released.

    Mr. Ross is not easily snookered, and I'm certain that the Ramseys were not at all ready for the cool and adversarial reception that CBN gave them:
    If you click on the link to CBN above, and read the entire transcript, you may perhaps come to the opinion I did: that the entire interview appeared to be challenging and adversarial.

    CNB attached the following caveat to their online copy of the Ramsey interview transcript:
    Doesn't that sound far, far more like a CBN distancing disclaimer than anything like a vote of support for the Ramseys?

    Well, CBN, you may certainly add my prayers to that wish.
     
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