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  1. Tricia

    Tricia Administrator Staff Member

    don't know what Team Ramsey was thinking in releasing these video interviews.

    Go to:

    http://www.courttv.com/news/ramsey/index2.html

    They have Jon and Patsy's interview from 1998.

    I don't even know where to begin.

    First she is so stoned she looks like she should be in a Cheech and Chong movie.

    I am totally paraphrasing below. I am listening as I type. I may come back and change this. I want to make sure I am correct in how I represent this.

    The bowl. The pineapple in the bowl. She acts like she has NO IDEA what is in the bowl. Is it a tea bag? She says. It's a big spoon. I don't know unless the kids used it"....and on and on.

    Then she says "Do you know what was in the bowl? Did you finger print it?"

    "What if we did"


    "Well I dunno maybe he gave her something to eat" (something along those lines)

    They then ask her did she know JonBenet had pineapple in her system?

    "Yes I heard that"...she says...

    "So this is no surprise to you then"

    "No" said Patsy.

    Keep in mind I am paraphrasing this whole thing. You have to watch the video. It is amazing. But so far for me the most amazing thing about this is the cops almost got her to admit that whosever's fingerprints are on the bowl is the one who gave the pineapple to Jonbenet. Almost got her to admit it. She asks again about whose fingerprints on it....Unbelievable.

    If you Windows Media won't play this (mine didn't) the go to

    Go to http://www.real.com

    And get the Realone Player. Should be able to get a free 14 day download. It costs 20 bucks for the whole thing.

    Oh yes "MY LIFE HAS BEEN HELL". Patsy wails...I think I will sample that and turn it into a rap song.

    Tricia
     
  2. Tricia

    Tricia Administrator Staff Member

    Is Lin Wood's ego blinding his ability to give his clients good advice?

    I promise you . I swear to you. When you see this video with Patsy you will be wondering the same thing.

    I am trying, really trying to understand what in the name of God Team Ramsey thought they would get by releasing Patsy's interview. I haven't seen John's yet. I am still in shock over Patsy's.

    Really there is only one reason Wood handed these tapes over to Court TV...He truly is a **** poor attorney. Really. All flash. All facelift. All tanning booth. All thinning hair..Lin Wood is so many things but a few things he is not.

    He is not a man of substance

    He is not a man anyone admires. (deep down he knows it too)

    He is, without question, not a good lawyer.

    I know Skank will crank up the bull machine to point out how many cases he has won for Richard Jewell and John and Patsy.

    Guess What? Jewell was a NO BRAINER. I don't believe Mr. Wood was there during the hellish time Mr. Jewel had to face the reporters and FBI. No Wood slithered into the scene when it was a sure deal. Barney Fife could have won settlements for Jewel.

    However Wood lost the biggie. Jewel was ruled to be a public figure. That is a big loss for Wood. He didn't argue his case well enough to win. Why? He's not a good lawyer.

    What is Wood? He is an opportunist.

    When he slithered into the JBR case it was for Burke. Not for John or Patsy. So how hard is this???

    "Excuse me give me 100 grand for suggesting Burke was a suspect or I will drag you to court where it will cost 10 times that just in your time"...

    Since Burke was cleared it was not that hard of a pitch...Except when it came to the New York Post. They are digging in their heels. Good for them. They are making Wood work. He's not use to that.

    Ok Skank and the Skanketts will say "Thomas settled".

    *Thomas can still talk about the case
    *Thomas can still sell his book with no corrections. The book that names Patsy as a murderer.
    *Thomas did not pay the Ramsey's a dime.

    I thought the whole point of suing Thomas was to not only prove he was wrong but to stop him from talking about it.

    Yes that was the point wasn't it? But Lin Wood is such a **** poor lawyer all he could do was get money from someone (not Thomas).

    But what did the Ramsey's get? Nothing. EVERYTHING IS STILL THE SAME AS IT WAS THE NIGHT ON LKL WHEN THOMAS LOOKED PATSY IN THE EYE AND SAID "YOUR GOOD FOR IT."


    Wood did not get ONE THING his clients wanted in the settlement. The Ramsey's said it wasn't about money.Wood is such a **** poor lawyer he got the one thing the Ramsey's didn't want. Money.

    Oh yes and his legal fees I am sure.


    Back to my original question.

    Is Lin Wood's ego blinding his ability to give his clients good advice?

    I think it has all along.

    Now he has Gary Condit as a client.

    Lin Wood is like a Saturday Night Live skit gone bad.

    The Ramsey's and the Condit's are getting exactly what they deserve.

    A **** poor lawyer

    (edited to change depo to interview)
     
  3. JR

    JR FFJ Senior Member

    Initial observations

    Initial observations: Patsy

    1.) Patsy is definitely ambidextrous and very comfortable with it as we have all heard.
    2.) Patsy confirmed that it was the triple window that is in question not the other window some would like us to believe.
    3) Patsy sends mixed signals with her body language.

    Initial observations: John
    1) John is also ambidextrous and I am not sure anyone has picked up on that. He is comfortable with it but perhaps not as comfortable as Patsy is. Can he write with both hands? That can be anyone's guess.
    2) John doesn't seem to understand that it's not the job of the police to make this process comfortable for them. IMHO, it is unbelievable that the Ramseys believe Steve Thomas should have come to their home rather than meet on neutral ground.
    3) Off the wall comment. John talks about "this battle" rather than this investigation.

    Initial observations: Ramseys
    1) Even in what little portion of the interviews have been released the Ramseys contradict their depositions and each other.
    2) The Ramseys and their attorney's have been less than honest about their treatment during these interviews.

    Why are the tapes clipped if the Ramseys and Woodie are being honest about wanting everyone to know the truth? (Am wondering why it appears a lot more of John's tape has been clipped.)
     
  4. LurkerXIV

    LurkerXIV Moderator

    The interview tapes...

    are extremely damaging to Patsy Ramsey. Prior to the release of these tapes of the angry, vengeful, out-of-control Patsy, what we had was the image of her as a pleasant, doting mother who was very involved in her children's lives. The loving mother who could "never" have harmed a hair on her child's head.

    But when we see the vicious harridan on the tapes, we can truly believe that she was capable of snapping over a minor infraction like bed-wetting, AND HENCE capable of extreme violence.

    Those of you who are old enough to remember Judy Garland in her last days....drugged, drunk, doped....turnng on all those in her inner circle like a rabid animal...even turning on her beloved children....may see a similar degradation of personality in Patsy.

    Patsy, in her interview, reminds me of Judy in her last appearance at the Palace....glazed eyes, mind out in space, barely able to stay upright.

    The only possible reason a defense lawyer could have for releasing those tapes is to reveal the extreme impairment and mental and physical dissolution of his client, to a point where an insanity defense might be effective.

    JMHO
     
  5. Moab

    Moab Admin Staff Member

    The only possible reason a defense lawyer could have for releasing those tapes is to reveal the extreme impairment and mental and physical dissolution of his client, to a point where an insanity defense might be effective.

    Really good perspective Lurker...I was thinking along the same lines...this was "used" that is for sure...all kinds of stuff coming out from Wood once the Post got their hands on "real" information...it is like Wood is screaming "damage control" as loudly and as often as he can...
     
  6. Tricia

    Tricia Administrator Staff Member

    Lurker XIV and Moab good call. I hadn't thought of that.

    The release of the "Patsy tapes" is so horrific for Team Ramsey it never occurred to me it might be a defense strategy ala damage control.

    Could be damage control. But if this is what Team Ramsey's is using as "damage control" can you image what the real damage is going to be like?

    Yep the Post has the goods ( or is in the process of receiving them) so this could have been a pre-emptive strike.

    The real good news is Wood is the one calling the shots. It's going to get worse and worse for the Ramsey's.
     
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  7. AK

    AK Member

    Smart comments on this thread!

    I predict we'll be hearing a lot more about these tapes in the near future. The very near future. Heh.
     
  8. Moab

    Moab Admin Staff Member

    There are three definitive rules of damage control:

    1. Get the information out early
    2. You be the person to get the information out
    3. Do it on your own terms

    The leaking of these police interviews was intentional and fits all of the above criteria, now we just have to sit back and wait...for the rest of the story.
     
  9. ACandyRose

    ACandyRose Super Moderator

    da transcript of Patsy's interview :)

    I just finished a rough draft of the transcript of the excerpts from Patsy Ramsey's June 1998 interrogation interview that was on Court TV. If you haven't seen the video over on Court TV, it's worth the trip. They are obviously still chopping the taped video up to only cover what they think will look for the Ramseys and maybe if they show enough excerpts of it over time we will get the whole interview at some point some day. If I have time tomorrow I will work on John's interview video, his interview that is on Court TV is a lot shorter than Patsys.

    Here is the link to my transcript:

    http://www.acandyrose.com/06251998patsyinterview.htm

    I also added a little highlight of what is on each section of the transcript on the main page.

    The taped video links are at Court TV web site where you can watch with RealVideo/Audio.

    http://www.courttv.com/news/ramsey/index2.html
     
  10. Thor

    Thor Active Member

    Thank you very much ACR, for this.
     
  11. BobC

    BobC Poster of the EON - Fabulous Inimitable Transcript

    John Ramsey: "When I heard Patsy scream, I knew, uhh, that something was terribly wrong."

    I've seen better acting in porn movies.

    Could Patsy be any more CHIT-FACED?
     
  12. Nandee

    Nandee FFJ Senior Member

    BobC

    Be careful.... You are already an entire thread at the swamp! :)
     
  13. Tricia

    Tricia Administrator Staff Member

    Really Nandee?

    BobC I am so proud..you done gooood!
     
  14. BobC

    BobC Poster of the EON - Fabulous Inimitable Transcript

    ZZZZZZZZZZZZ

    I feel honored! Is the title "Sex Glove?"
     
  15. Tricia

    Tricia Administrator Staff Member

    Now you all know why BobC is "Poster of the Eon"...

    I still keep coming back to this thought.

    If this is meant to diffuse,, if the releasing of these tapes is meant to help in anyway shape or form...then the Ramsey's are in such deep, deep, trouble there is no way out.

    BobC I loved your posts at Court TV.

    If anyone needs theee perfect overview of the Ramsey case then go to:

    www.courttv.com

    and click on message boards. Find the JBR case and read Bobc's wonderful thoughts.

    It a great refresher course.

    edited to change disfuse to diffuse...whoops

    Tricia
     
  16. BobC

    BobC Poster of the EON - Fabulous Inimitable Transcript

    You know I went to those forums to discuss other cases which I'm a hell of a lot more interested in at the moment, and I just started that thread to see how fresh eyes would view the evidence that's been reported--and suddenly the same old dreary personalty is there, with the same old dreary rants. Steve Thomas is a liar. I am a liar. The media is lying. Henry Lee is an idiot. The FBI and CBI are biased and incompetent. The tabloids are clueless even though they published partial transcripts of the tapes we just watched years ago.

    basically the only person who is not lying or stupid is Jameson. God help us all.

    I'm changing my hat to Sex Glove.
     
  17. BobC

    BobC Poster of the EON - Fabulous Inimitable Transcript

    Everyone's so damn jealous of my sex gloves.

    By the way does anyone have a copy handy of the statement the BPD gave a while back about interviewing something like 600 witnesses--you know the one refuting the lie that they never looked at anyone but the poor, put-upon Scamsies?
     
  18. BobC

    BobC Poster of the EON - Fabulous Inimitable Transcript

    My fans seem to have left the CTV boards! I was just getting warmed up!

    BRING IT ON!!!
     
  19. BobC

    BobC Poster of the EON - Fabulous Inimitable Transcript

  20. Ayeka

    Ayeka Member

    Tri-snap!

    Bob, that was a posting coup de grâce! You ROCK!

    Ayeka
     
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