Barnes and Noble chat holds the key to Schiller's "ten percent" remark

Discussion in 'Justice for JonBenet Discussion - Public Forum' started by Tricia, Jul 9, 2003.

  1. Tricia

    Tricia Administrator Staff Member

    I received this information from a third party. The person who sent it to me wishes to remain anonymous

    I have no idea who you are but thank you for bringing this to my attention. JFJBR :hug:

    We have all heard about the remark Schiller made concerning his book "Perfect Murder Perfect Town." Schiller said he used only "ten percent" of the material he had. Something along those lines. Yet we could never seem to source that remark. This chat holds the key I believe.

    Here is a link to an old chat. People are discussing many topics including Schiller's "10 percent" remark he made during a Barns and Noble chat the week before.

    http://webdollie.tripod.com/03061999wrowIRC.txt

    Scout> Before he gets going Has anyone heard him mention that he has revealed about only 10% of the information
    *snip*
    Pati> yes scout, the Barnes and Noble chat last week

    If anyone has any ideas on how to find this chat please let me know. Someone has to have a copy somwhere.

    This chat was March 7th 1999. So the first week in March 1999 would be the date of the chat. Perhapas even Feb 27-28th.

    This chat is filled with interesting little tidbits like this:

    Geno> we should have thought to ask Schiller about Pam's restraining order against Susan Stine
    WHAT??? This is too funny? Did this happen?

    Ok Barnes and Noble chat. End of Feb. first of March 1999.

    Anyone????
     
  2. Tricia

    Tricia Administrator Staff Member

    ACandyRose has the chat with Schiller. It's on an old JW thread.

    I am trying to figure out the best way to post it.

    Hang tight. Might be a bit.

    Tricia
     
  3. Tricia

    Tricia Administrator Staff Member

    This is a transcription done by "gsquared" for JW. I am still looking for the original transcript. If there is one that is. This appears to be a partial transcript.

    Schiller chat log"
    Posted by gsquared on Feb-22-99 at 09:49 PM (EST)

    "All that is necessary for evil to succeed is for good men to sit and do nothing." ~ Edmund Burke
    This is as much as I could catch - I will keep trying.

    Anne from Kentucky: During your research of JonBenet's various Dr. appointments for chronic sinus problems - at some point did you realize that she was never taken to a specialist for her practically lifelong illness? John and Patsy afforded theirselves of the best doctors available!
    LS: When I am fortunate enough to speak to the Ramsey's I will ask them that very thing.



    Tina from Pittsburgh,PA: do you know what your next project will be?
    LS: Taking my wife on a nice vacation to africa. I haven't spent much time with her for the last 2 years. But of course that isn't a project!



    Starling from Anytown U.S.A.: Regarding the John Ramsey interview by , Cordwainer Bird - what was this done in the first place if it was off the record?
    LS: It is difficlut to say what the Ramsey's motivation was and I can't draw a conclusion. I myself am mystified at this aspect of the Ramsey's actions.



    Brian from denver: We've all heard about the deep schism between the Boulder DA and police department. How did this antagonism start and how did it spin so far out of control?
    LS: That is half the book. YOu have to read the book!



    Ellen from San Fran: What is the next step in this case? Isn't there another trial this March? Do you think they will make the parents the prime suspects?
    LS: The parents are the prime suspects. We are now waiting for the grand jury to conclude its investigation and issue a finding.



    Elaine from Kansas: I thought your O.J. Simpson book was great. I have gotten about l00 pages read in the JonBenet book. Was wondering which book was the easiest to research and write
    LS: Each of them presented diff obstables and it is impossible to compare them.



    Newt from Muni, GA: Are you aware of author Stephen Singular's upcoming book which explores the possibility of a child porn ring in Boulder and do you have any comment?
    LS: I interviewed mr Singular and his general finding are included in my book adn I wish him well when his book is published.



    Amy L. from Chicago: What role did the internet play in the research and writing of the book?
    LS: Little or none.



    Colleen from Seattle: What has been the Coulder police's response to your book? Heard anything from the Ramsey's?
    LS: I have had several police officers call me a say that it was very fair. Det Dteve Thomas was on GMA and he said it was mostly accuate and he foudn no major fault wiht it. Several members of the Ramsey's family and confidents have called adn given me some minors corrections. I don't hink they would have called if they felt the book was unfair to Patsy and John.



    Greg Marshall from Baltimore, MD: After all your research, what facts best prove that a member of the immediate family had to have done it?
    LS: the fact that whoever the killer was, they were not in fear of discover,events that took place after jonb was hit in the head took a considerable amount of time. theis wasn't the situation where she was hit on the head and someone got the hell out of the house.



    JOE from COLORADO: Did an FBI profiler or any profiler come with a profile of Jon Benet's murderer? What were the results?
    LS: They are enumerated in detail in the book adn it woudl be too lengthy to go on about at this point.



    Ruth from Washington: Did you interview Don Foster, the Vassar professor who did a linguistic analysis of the ransom note? Do you know if his testimony is going to be allowed to go before the grand jury? I understand there are questions of admissibility and credibility.
    LS: he was interview several times by myself and mr brenon aand I do not believe his finding will be presented to a trail jury but maybe included in the presenation to the grand jury.



    Nancy from Dillard, GA: You say that Sue Bennett is not a suspect. How about the two family members who are registered sex offenders who live with her - have they been investigated? Zeb Bennett, Sr. and Zeb Bennett, Jr.
    LS: I have no knowledge of that and would rather not comment on speculation.



    Ken from hartford, Conn.: Who do they think leaked the Ransom note to the press?
    LS: A member of law enforcement read it on the telephone to ANnie bardock of Vanity Fair and another member of law enforcement provided a copy to Newsweek magazine. they were not the same indiv and both leaks were seperate and apart from each other. At first I thought newsweek got their copy from a member of the ramsey's legal team but I have since been informed otherwise.



    fuzzy from Alexandria: Do you know how the heart in JonBenet's hand got there?
    LS: No and believe it or not that is a question I forgot to ask police during my interviews.



    Cindy from West Virginia: Mr. Schiller: In reference to the alleged sexual abuse of JonBenet; was she abused or was the supposed inflammation do to maybe a infection? Also, do you have any information on the relationship that now exists between John Ramsey and his children John Andrew and Melinda, and also what of Patsy and her sister and parents?
    LS: I don't believe this is the proper form to discuss the fmaily members since they are all under stress. The inflammation of JonBenet's genetilia is hotly debated by experts in the field and it is important to read those section of the books bc any answer I woudl give now woudl be too extensive for this form.



    Gail from Alexandria, VA: What is this about Fleet White rumored to have reported his daughter missing several weeks before the murder? Is that true?
    LS: Yes, but the child was found hiding under a bed in the family's own home.



    Gail from Alexandria, VA: Have you considered the possibility of Burke's involvement or the involvement of other juveniles?
    LS: The FBU and police believe the probability of Burke's involvment is probably zero and I agree with that conclusion.



    Starling from Starling: Your book is not clear about where the original source of Fleet White changing JonBenet's underwear originated. Please elaborate.
    LS: this info has been deleted to protect the indentiy and privacy of an individual.



    Liz from Washington: What is the significance of the broken glass on the suitcase in the train room? If a window had been broken by John much earlier, why wouldn't the glas have been cleaned up? Why did Fleet tamper with the glass on the floor? Why didn't Fleet or John report the state of the window to the police that morning? Why didn't the police note the broken window when they were searching the exterior for possible forced entry?
    LS: Good questions. One: the signif of the glass on the suitase, If the window had been opened and someone had gone through it, addition or new fragments of galss woudl have fallen off the window or sill onto the suitase. Fleet foudn some pieces even on the fllor. It is possible that just the opening of the window or moving of the window by Ramsey or Fleet coudl have produced pieces of glass. More importnat is dirt that was disturbed on the outside of the windown frame. It does raise the possiblity that someone did enter. But again you can not prove a negative. YOu can't prove theere are no flying saucers.



    Peg from CT: What's your theory as to what really happened?
    LS: I was not in teh house that night and I htink it would be improper for me to ocontribute to a theory. Only a jury of 12 citizen has the right to decide. I can only present the facts as the police preceve it, how the DA precieve it,a dn just as important, those peole who believe the Ramsey's are innocent preceive it. My book for the first time brings all the eveidence togeht in a manner that is clearly understood. I allow the reader to draw their own conclusions.



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    Gayle from Colorado: Were you able to interview Don Paugh, Patsy's dad? We have heard basically nothing from him.
    LS: We did not interview him. We did check out certain facts relating to his departure from Boulder on Christmas Eve adn the police and DA office assured us they did not feel he was involved in the crime.



    Jessica from Indiana: Did you interview people from Charlevoix for the book? Do you think Charlevoix will figure into this case?
    LS: We interviewed very few people in Charlevoix and the police investigation and the plice investiageion touched jsut briefly in that community. None fo the events concerned in the case seem to be relevant to the death of Jon Benet.



    Mark Hardy from Little Rock,: You spent nearly two years in Boulder nvestigating the Jon Benet murder. I used to live there and wonder what effect such a horrible event has on a community. What is the prevailing sentiment about the murder there? Is Boulder bouncing back?
    LS: The community of Boulder would rather forget it has happened. The Ramsey's wer not really members of the community they had never feally actively taken part in teh policy making process, and in some ways that is why it was so easy for the community to condemn them bc they were notmembers of the community.



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    Wilton from Atlanta: Are you aware that Sue Bennett is responsible for the CBI's investigation of Mervin Pugh in regards to the suspected child pornagrphy? Someone passed photos to Sue that they believed to be of Ariana Pugh and Sue in turn turned them over to the proper authorities.
    LS: I have full knowledge of that aspect of the case and feel that it would be improper for me to comment since linda hoffamn pugh's daughter is stil a minor and her privacy must still be respected.



    Jen from Connecticut: What were the reasons behind Patsy Ramsey's accusations towards her former housekeeper, Linda Hoffman at the beginning of the case? Does she still feel the same doubts about Linda Hoffman?
    LS: I think they were natural. Linda had asked for money, she had a key to the house, I think that in the same situation I would have said my housekeeper is a possible suspect. I believe the Ramsey's have not ruled out anyone as a possible suspect.in their mind and as they have said publically, the killer is someone known to the family who had been in the house before. There fore the circle of identity has to include peole like Linda HOffman Pugh and bill McReynold, etc.



    Betsy from Hilton Head, SC: Did you interview any members of the Ramsey family for this book? If so, what are your feeling on them?
    LS: Mr. Brennon and myself on several different occasion going back into the first months of 1997 and up to jan of 99 interviewed seveal members of the family but not John and Patsy. Obviously there is a bond which is only natural between teh members of the family and as one woudl expect there is a great deal of blind faith. Other than that I have no further comments besides that which I have publishe in the book.



    Elise from Portland: At 10am on Dec 26,th the morning of the murder, John Ramsey disappeared for a while. Where do YOU think he went? Was he possible tampering with evidence or moving JonBenet's body?
    LS: I know that he went into the basement and foudn the broken window open. he himslef told this to the poice on april 30, 1997. Whatelse he did in the basement I have been asked to exclude from my book to protect the investigation. What else he said he did in the book, I have been asked by law enforcemetn to exclude from the book to protect the investigation.



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    Pete from Texas: Mr. Schiller, I really admire your fact-finding in this case. You are better than the police! Do you think this case will ever be definitively solved ? Will we ever know who murdered JonBenet?
    LS: I don't believe that I am better than the police. there investigation has been exhaustive even though in some regards flawed. My book contains only about 10% of what I konw of the investigation and unfortunatly some members of law inforcemtn ahve asked me to excluce still important evidence so that the investiation can be brought to a conclusion. Since several officers coperated with me I respect their desire and did my best to protect the investigation.

    Brad from Minnesota: Did you interview the McReynolds? What is their current description, height, weight, color of eyes, color of hair? Where are they originally from?
    LS: I interviewed them in July of 1997 and Charley Brennon spoke to them in 1999 while they were in Massachusetts. I am sorry I don't have my research files with me so the balance of your question I am unable to answer.



    maxi from DC: Today on Burden of Proof you said the police theorize that the murderer braced himself with a foot or hand on JonBenet's back and pulled the noose tight. How did they come up with this scenario, and have you heard any explanations for the prominent red abrasion on the front left of JonBenet's throat?
    LS: First, in teh knot that was on the back of JonB neck there was hair interwoven in a manner that showed that the knot was always in that place. Secondly the stick was at the end of a piece of cord that measured 17 inches after it was pulled through the knot. THe only way the noose could have been tightened woudl be for leveridge to be applied. The stick could not have been used as a garrat bc that amount of cord woudl ahve turned on itself and provided no friction.



    Nancy from Weschester: JonBenet was found with her blanket and the maid says that it had been in the laundary the night before the murder. Don't facts like jsut prove that it had to be a family member?
    LS: the housekeeper says it is possbile that it was in the washer dryer. It is also possbile that it was on the bed and the bed was remade after the balndket was taken off. if the blanket was on teh bed then there is still the possiblity of an intruder, if it COULD be proven that it was in the washer dryer, then the possiblity arises that someone within the household was involved in some aspect of the crime.



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    Mary from Augusta, Georgia: Will there ever be an arrest in this case? I have heard that too much time has passed and too much evidence compromised.
    LS: i believe the grand jury may indeed issue an indictment which if signed by the DA would result in an arrest. A trial is another matter. a conviction is another matter. There is much exculpatory evidence that in my opinion will raise reasonable doubt.



    Jessica from Indiana: Is jameson/Sue Bennett still considered a suspect by the authorities in Boulder?
    LS: Not to my knowledge. I have interviewed her.She is a hard worker and has done a lot to contribute to the body of knowledge. She is a well intentioned person and anythign but a suspect.



    Lou from TX: I've finished the book. I was disappointed that you didn't talk about the 911 call on Dec. 23. Can you tell us anything about that?
    LS: My investigation of this call showed me taht it was not directly involved to the events of Dec 25 and 26th. Just liek Fleet white's reported disappearance of his daughter Daphney weeks prior to JonBenet's kidnapping. Therefor I felt that these unrelated events didn't really go anywhere >therefor I excluded them.



    Simon from Reno, TX: I read that you interviewed nearly 200 people for this book. What was the most challenging interview? The most emotional?
    LS: Charley Brennon a colleague who assisted me in interview and research joined me in 571 seperate interview over a one year period. the most challenging had to be those with the members of law enforcement who needed to preserve the integrity of the case while I as a journalist needed to uncover as much as I could. Here the fundemntal issue of the seperation of an independent judiacary and independent press allows the media to safeguard the integrity of the judicial system.



    Hank from Charlotte, NC: You must have begun this investigation with some preconceptions on who murdered JonBenet. We all have them. What were yours and did your feelings change the more and more facts that you amassed?
    LS: Surprisingly i have very little interest in solving the crime adn no preconcieved ideas. I went toe Boulder for teh new yorker magazine to do a story on the history of the city and discovered a unique judicial system that had been shaped for this community. Only then did I see that the Ramsey case woudl provide a window from which to look through at the issues confronting not only the citizen of Boulder but the nation at large. The first issue I addressed was the presumption fo innouncence whihc was the subject of my new yorker article.
     
  4. Nikeo

    Nikeo Member

    Is this true?

    "Nancy from Dillard, GA: You say that Sue Bennett is not a suspect. How about the two family members who are registered sex offenders who live with her - have they been investigated? Zeb Bennett, Sr. and Zeb Bennett, Jr.
    LS: I have no knowledge of that and would rather not comment on speculation?



    Does anyone know if this is true? This is the first time I have heard or read about this. Who are Zeb Sr and Jr.? her husband and son?

    Did Nancy from Dillard, GA, just say this to be spiteful to the skank?
     
  5. Watching You

    Watching You Superior Bee Admin

    Interesting statement

    "I went toe Boulder for teh new yorker magazine to do a story on the history of the city and discovered a unique judicial system that had been shaped for this community."

    What that means is Boulder makes their own laws.
     
  6. ACandyRose

    ACandyRose Super Moderator

    Barnes and Noble chat

    Tricia,

    That "chat log" as it is being called was copied by Gsquared directly from the Barnes and Noble web site. I don't know why they called it a "chat" in the sense that we know a "chat" but it really was a question and answer session where folks posted their question on the site and then Schiller gave the answers and then Barnes and Noble web site posted the results of the Q&A.

    It was not a "live" chat (like About.com has) with direct interaction between the posters and Schiller. I am not sure if Gsquared copied all of what was there or not and I would have to check through my other files to see if there is anymore as I recall I copied them also to a text file. I honestly don't recall there being much more than what Gsquared had posted.

    ACandyRose
    http://www.acandyrose.com
    http://www.jonbenetindexguide.com
     
  7. Nikeo

    Nikeo Member

  8. Ayeka

    Ayeka Member

    I miss Ruthee.

    Ayeka
     
  9. Pearlsim

    Pearlsim FFJ Senior Member

    ayeka

    Me too.
     
  10. purr

    purr Active Member

    dont you wish we knew the whole truth !!!

    wow, what a book if we had the whole truth......

    i wonder if we had the whole truth if
    the ramsey's would deny every bit of it....

    i bet they would......

    ha!!!...they would say....i dont remember that.

    but they remembered enough to write DOI, didnt they???

    waiting for the WHOLE TRUTH!!!!!

    bring it on!!!!!!

    sumo wrestler,

    purr
     
  11. Ginja

    Ginja Member

    Mum's the word!

    Familial bond.

    Great Deal of blind faith.


    Jmho, but I think that sums it up pretty well.

    The Ramseys and Paughs:
    See no evil
    Hear no evil
    Speak no evil.
    :no: :no: :no: :no: :no:
     
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