Another Boulder Outrage. SIGN THE PETITION

Everyone has my full permission to take this post to other forums as long as it is in its entirety and FFJ is identified as the original forum where it was posted.

Bold and caps mine.

Tell me if this information doesn't stink of, at the very least, the appearance of impropriety.

Follow this trail...

....Patrick Furman, a criminal law professor at theUniversity of Colorado in Boulder, has joined attorney Patrick Burke to represent Patsy Ramsey, the source said.

---Charlie Brennen
Rocky Mountain News, March 1st, 1997

Note the date. 1997 Patrick Furman joins Patsy's defense team.

In 1997 H. Patrick Furman, a law professor at the University of Colorado in Boulder wrote a book. Take note of one of the names of the authors who wrote the book with Furman. Always remember in 1997 this same Patrick Furman joined Patsy's defense team.

Colorado Evidentiary Foundations. ISBN: 1558344608

©1997

Roxanne Bailin, James M. England, H. Patrick Furman,
Edward J. Imwinkelried

Description

Lawyers often have difficulty making their case smooth and consistant once they're in a courtroom. Colorado Evidentiary Foundations helps you focus your case by demonstarting how to lay the foundation for the admission of evidence. Through the authors' quesiton and answer format, you'll learn how to plan powerful lines of courtroom questioning to control the evidence in both civil and criminal cases, regardless of whom you represent. Colorado Evidentiary Foundations is organized for fast and easy access to necessary information, allowing you easily to compare and contrast the Federal Rules of Evidence with former and current Colorado Rules of Evidence

Roxanne Bailin

Roxanne Bailin is District Judge of the 20th Judicial District of Colorado, where she currently serves in the Civil/Domestic section. Prior to assuming her present position, she was County Judge in Boulder County from 1983-1987. From 1978-1982, Judge Bailin was Associate Clinical Professor at the University of Colorado School of Law - serving as Director of the school's Legal Aid and Defender Program. Judge Bailing received her J.D. from New York University School of Law and her B.A. from the University of Chicago.

http://bookstore.lexis.com/bookstore/catalog?action=product&prod_id=7593
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Now you may wonder what the big deal is...Here is the big deal.

Patrick Furman, Patsy Ramsey's defense lawyer wrote a book with Judge Roxanne Bailin . The same Roxanne Bailin who TERMINATED an investigation into Fleet White's libel case in Oct. 2000. Judge Bailin claimed she did this at the request of Fleet White but the Whites have said they NEVER made such a request.

Here is the whole story from the Rocky Mountain News.
http://www.rockymountainnews.com/drmn/ramsey/article/0,1299,DRMN_1296_1498906,00.html

I am still searching for the law about the "appearance of impropriety." It states something to the effect of, "even though there is no impropriety the mere appearance is enough..."

Oh just a bit more if you can stomach it.

When this mess about the special prosecutor was finally straightened out and the special prosecutor decided not to seek criminal libel charges against the local media guess who he faxed his decision to?? That's right Chief Judge Roxanne Bailin. Apparently still the judge in this case.
http://www.rockymountainnews.com/drmn/local/article/0,1299,DRMN_15_1728716,00.html

Can it get any more incestuous?

In 1997 Patsy Ramsey's defense attorney writes a book with a Judge who makes decisions in cases involving one of the Ramsey's most vocal ex-friends. In addition the Ramseys have pointed their fingers at the Whites as possible suspects.

Oh by the way, and correct me if I am wrong but, wasn't Judge Roxanne Bailin the Judge who presided over the Grand Jury?

This is why, without question, we need an INDEPENDENT SPECIAL PROSECUTOR.

Please send the petition again to people you know. This is so unbelievably wrong.

There will never be justice for JonBenet Ramsey as long as anything to do with the case stays in Boulder Colorado.

Sign the petition.
http://www.petitiononline.com/jbr246/petition.html

 

Ask yourself this question. If a prosecutor who actually had the balls to attempt to prosecute the Ramseys had written a book with a Judge who later presides over cases involving the JBR case and Ramsey accusers and ruled in favor of the Ramseys accusers Lin Wood would blow a gasket.

 

Blow a gasket He11...he would implode right on the spot.

This case just reeks doesn't it? Elected officials and the political powers that be just astound me with one move right after another and it doesn't really seem to matter what is brought to light...they just don't get it, do they?

 

Court petitioned to revisit libel charges for Ramsey story
By Associated Press
October 24, 2002

BOULDER - The Boulder County district attorney's office made a second request this week for a special prosecutor to review a case alleging that the Daily Camera and other media committed libel in their coverage of the unsolved slaying of JonBenet Ramsey.

Chief District Judge Roxanne Bailin said she terminated an investigation into the libel case in October 2000 at the request of Fleet White Jr. and Priscilla White. But the Whites said they made no such appeal.

District Attorney Mary Keenan said the new motion came at the request of the Whites, who tried to get the Colorado attorney general's office involved in the investigation..

*snip*

http://www.rockymountainnews.com/drmn/ramsey/article/0,1299,DRMN_1296_1498906,00.html

Fedorax of course professionals on all sides work together in different situations. However even if there is an "appearance of impropriety" someone needs to step aside.

I am only going by memory but wasn't Judge Bailin the judge for the Grand Jury?

It should at the very least been revealed that she had a business relationship with Patsy's defense attorney.

I am sorry but the fact that this was not revealed, granted it wasn't hidden either, to me just stinks.

Don't tell me the judicial officials in Boulder are a large group of upstanding, ethical people. I am certain some are. Others, like Alex Hunter, should be ashamed of themselves.

I could go on and on...

Tripp. Good old Tripp Demouth. Lands a nice job with the RAMSEY'S ****ING DEFENSE ATTORNEYS. HELLO????

It wasn't like Tripp waited a few years and quietly went in.

No the whole time he was ignoring the evidence against the Ramsey's he was in contact with their defense team. Then low and behold he loses the election and WHAMO...Nice job with the defense team of the only suspects in a murder case he should have been investigating for the D.A.

The whole thing REEKS. This is why it needs to be taken away from Boulder. '

Fedorax did you hear Michael Kane on Dan Abrams? Fedorax he said Keenan was ignoring her own case file when she made those outrageous statements about Judge Carnes ruling. Kane knows what is in the files. He was appalled at Keenan.

Tell me one place on this planet where a civil attorney was able to threaten a city with a lawsuit and get a murder case taken away from the cops and given to a D.A. who has her head so far up his :behind: that he can't sit.

I would swear Wood is writing Keenan's PR. if I didn't know better.

Lin Wood was allowed to control an on-going murder investigation with his threats in my opinion.

One of the main attorneys investigating this case went to work for the Ramsey defense team as soon as he was out of a job.

Patsy's defense lawyer wrote a book with the judge who apparently, arbitrarily, tried to interfere with a case brought by one of the Ramsey's main accusers by saying the plaintiff's dropped it when they did no such thing. I think that is pretty compelling.

The only rumor I have heard was on the purgatory forum. I have no idea if it's true. I hope we find out more.

AMORE29 posted that Judge Bailin's secretary sent info to the google girls. That is rumor.

Other than that rumor all I have to do is open my eyes to see the real evidence.

Fedorax your wrote:

"Unless you can show me actual evidence of collusion on the Ramsey case, this is just a bogus issue suggestive of character assassination."

Fedorax I don't have tapes of planning sessions or video of clandestine planning meetings because I don't think that is how any of this went down.

If there is something that you can point to that doesn't reek of a incestuous cluster **** in this case with the D.A., Judges, and even a few cops then I would like to see it because every time someone from one of these offices has a job to do they fail miserably when it comes to the Ramsey case in my opinion. ( I know the cops are working hard. I am referring more to the Smit and Ainsworth crew)

If it looks like a duck, if it walks like a duck, it is a duck.

 

I want to make sure I am making myself clear.

I understand that professionals in the judicial system, often from opposite sides of the courtroom, work together on all kinds of things.

These professionals are able to work on projects together one day and the next day face each other in court and try and tear each other a part. Or perhaps have a judge who is a close friend rule against them over and over and over.

I know this. I get it. In fact it would be a tremendous leap in judgment to assume there are problems with professionals doing this.

However I do feel, in the interest of appearing ethical, it should have been revealed that Furman and Bailin wrote a book together.

In reality the fact that Furman and Bailin wrote a book in 1997 wouldn't be a big deal if it was revealed early on. It wasn't. Perhaps everyone knew and didn't feel the need to mention it. I don't know. However the bigger issue I have is this paragraph from the Rocky Mountain News.

"Chief District Judge Roxanne Bailin said she terminated an investigation into the libel case in October 2000 at the request of Fleet White Jr. and Priscilla White. But the Whites said they made no such appeal.."

Right there. That is so "Ramsey case " like. What the hell is this Judge doing?


The appearance of impropriety. It has slimed this case from one end to the other.

Just how ethical was it for Keenan to ignore the evidence in her case files and come out in favor of a civil judge's ruling?

How ethical was it for the D.A.'s office to keep turning over evidence to the Ramseys?

I could go on and on but I think you get the picture.

I understand 100 percent what you are saying Fedorax but remember, this is Boulder, where appearances are often what they seem.

 

Fedorax wrote:

"Unless you can show me actual evidence of collusion on the Ramsey case, this is just a bogus issue suggestive of character assassination."

Then Fedorax wrote: "I've been in court this week for a murder case where an attorney has a VERY convoluted connection with one of the participants and was called to the stand to discuss it. Once revealed and assimilated, everyone moved on."


So I guess if I question the fact that Patsy Ramsey's defense attorney wrote a book for profit with the judge who oversaw the Grand Jury and who dropped a complaint concerning one of the Ramsey's main accusers, and then went on to claim that the main accusers wanted her to drop the complaint ( later proven to be un-true) I am guilty of " a bogus issue suggestive of character assassination."

Yet an attorney in a case you are involved with had a VERY convoluted connection with one of the participants and was questioned about it and somehow that isn't the same thing as what I brought up? You don't think the judge questioning the attorney you know was trying to assassinate the man's character?

WY is right. It is the APPEARANCE OF IMPROPRIETY which I have a right to bring up without being accused of something so over the top as character assassination. Too much Fedorax.

With such a high profile case riddled with accusations I would think the attorneys and judges involved would go out of their way to avoid the appearance of impropriety. Appearance being the key word. I am not accusing anyone directly of acting inappropriate. I am saying there is an appearance of impropriety. Big difference.

With Judge Bailin's behavior in the White case and her direct book for profit she wrote with Patsy's defense attorney I would think others in Boulder would ask the same question.

 

Ok here is something.

What poster drops little hints about something big on a thread and then leaves a certain forum owner wondering what is going on to the point she is now chewing off her arm below her elbow because she is going nuts not knowing?

Fedorax wrote:By the time you read this... you will have learned that Aerospace, indeed, supports their work and claims

WHAT WHAT WHAT????

Tricia

 

AAAAAAGGGGGRRRRRRRRRHHHHH

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It's your fault if I have two bloody stumps where my arms once were.