Rascal, mame, and other weirdness

Discussion in 'Justice for JonBenet Discussion - Public Forum' started by Watching You, Sep 8, 2003.

  1. Watching You

    Watching You Superior Bee Admin

    The release of the Krebs file has accomplished several things. First, it has finally put to rest the hoax perpetrated by Nancy and her handlers, as well as the mamesumabots.

    We have only begun to expose the lies. We can't stop there - someone needs to answer for this preposterous slander and libel against the Whites. Boulder didn't pursue action against anyone, although the Whites have tried to get relief through the courts. I think there are a lot of people who have a lot to answer for. Bienkowski is one. Suma is another. But, it's the head of the snake we're after. Who were Nancy's handlers, and what were they after?

    In order to get a true perspective on why we at FFJ and other forums are so adament about getting the truth out, it is important to go back to when it all began. I am going to pull some posts out that were written by the main participants in the Krebs saga. I do not mean for them to be entertaining but rather informative as to why this act of fraud became such a thorn in our sides. I do not consider the release of the file to be the end. I consider it the beginning.

    This is the type of crap we were fed at JW. This is the crap we were expected to swallow. No one need question why we are still angry. I for one do not ever forget anyone who tries to manipulate me and then goes on the attack against me because they failed.

    I know some of you have saved posts from the past. This is the thread for those posts. Here's a blast from the past to start you out.




    Rascal? What did rascal have to do with any of this? Mame and Nancy "cared for each other?" That's interesting, in light of the disclosures now coming out.
     
  2. Watching You

    Watching You Superior Bee Admin

    Mame was great at innuendos. She didn't usually come out and accuse, she was much more cagey than that. She insinuated.



    LIE ALERT:



    Today they say Nancy may have been confused in her Ramsey identification. That's not what mamesuma said in 2000.


    On Peter Boyles: (He was right all along. Who's the schmuck now?)

     
  3. Watching You

    Watching You Superior Bee Admin

    Mameson goes on the attack

    Posters start to question mame after her interview with Nancy where mame both asks and answers most of the questions. Note that mame never addresses the issues the posters raise. Instead, she goes on the attack, becoming very confrontational and defensive.




    This is one of my favorite mamebot posts, since it is addressed to me personally. I remember this, because at the time I was astonished to see mame's reaction to my rather mild statement regarding the fact that mame did most the talking during the interview. I wasn't combative in my post to mame, (no, I really wasn't then, that came later, LOL) but, she sure didn't like being questioned, as evidenced by her response to me. This was also the post that produced many giggles about mame's comparison of her silly little self to Bernstein and Woodward.



    Oh, my goodness, more mamebot posts to WY. I think this one was in response to my concern that certain posters at JW were libeling FW with no evidence whatsoever that he was what they claimed he was - a pedophile. You will notice in most of mame's posts, she refers to the people she is libeling in the third person or even further removed than that.

    I always thought all mame needed was a cigarette hanging out the side of her mouth and a chaw of tobaccy inside her lip, and she'd be the bad a$s she thought she was. This is one of the first posts in which she intimated that certain forum members were part of the group out to "get" her and Nancy. Here is the drama queen mame in all her glory:



    Mindreader mame interprets the meaning of Nancy's words.

    The pot calls the kettle black:


    Does everyone remember Ron Smith? Either he or his wife was a psychologist, I believe, I can't remember which, although I can look it up, later. Here are some of mamesuma's rude responses to some of his questions:

    These posts are actually mild, though, compared to some of the posts made by mary99 and Holly to Ron. Ron subsequently left the forums, totally disgusted with what was going on. I don't know if he ever returned. We'll get to the other participants posts later.
     
  4. BobC

    BobC Poster of the EON - Fabulous Inimitable Transcript

    Krebs spelled it out quite clearly that she was not only raped and sodomized by John Ramsey, but tortured by him as well. I don't know about you all, but once I'd been raped and tortured a few times by the same guy, I'd know for sure who the guy was.

    This is so typical of the need to infantilize Nancy Krebs. Every statement has a qualifier--"might have," "never said for sure," "she thinks she may have" blah blah blah. If Nancy Krebs were male nobody would take this crap off her for a minute.
     
  5. Watching You

    Watching You Superior Bee Admin

    Some posters lost money

    when mame scheduled a get-together, then cancelled it when she found out many posters were not buying her MW foolishness. At least one poster lost hundreds of dollars on a non-refundable airline ticket.


    I heard there was some hullabaloo at Purgatory recently about that cancelled get-together.
     
  6. Watching You

    Watching You Superior Bee Admin

    Remember this gem?


    and this?

     
  7. Watching You

    Watching You Superior Bee Admin

    The attacks grow worse

    mame liked to accuse others of being FW's "minions." She also liked to throw in the phrase, "find your manners" whenever someone displeased her. I suggest mamebot could have used a few lessons in manners, herself.




    mamebot did much of her damage behind the scenes in e-mails and such. She was usually careful what she said on the internet fora, except now and then she'd get irate and really throw some good ones out there about Fleet White. which she would then almost immediately delete. Several posters witnessed that action several times. Some posters even managed to copy those libelous posts before mamebot managed to delete them. I don't think I have all of them, but maybe someone will reveal those posts if they have them.

    Of all the most egregious and sneaky things mame did, I think the most revealing was what she didn't do. She may not have stated publicly her feelings toward Fleet White, at least nothing that she didn't get deleted right away, but she made her feelings well know, nonetheless in her innuendos and insinuations. She let her own "minions" post the most libelous posts about the Whites, calling him a pedophile and worse, yet never opened her mouth to stop it. If mame was as righteous as she claimed to be in claiming she wasn't naming names blah blah ad nauseum, she wasn't claiming this, she wasn't claiming that - why did she not ask her minions to cool it with the accusations and libel? She knew damn well they were libeling the Whites; yet, she didn't raise her voice in opposition to their jumping to conclusions at all. In fact, she encouraged it, and she still encourages it.
     
  8. Vic

    Vic Active Member

    well la de da

    I quit reading mame's posts after I realized she would never, ever answer a question. She was condesending and it was clear none of us were "good" enough to wipe her feet on. Plus, I couldn't stand her writing style, to put it mildly. Who needs capitalization?

    Thanks for bringing these up WY, it reminds me of how right I was to think the whole Krebs thing was a load of crap.

    I still don't understand why she did/does it, I guess it must be the lure of that Pulitzer....

    What a small, shallow woman.

    Is that Kevin over there?
     
  9. Watching You

    Watching You Superior Bee Admin

    mame and her goons

    There was no other way Holly, mary99, morgan, Darby, et al could have gotten information on Nancy Krebs except through mamesuma. The "inside" info they posted at JW wasn't info mame talked about on the forum. She passed the information to them, and they took it from there. It could not have happened any other way. First, the get-together at Holly's house where mame first dropped her bombshell on anyone who wanted to or would listen. Then, through e-mails or whatever, the research into Krebs' background and the Whites took off.

    The poster known as Janphi at JW went to great lengths to do research. mamebot denies everything janphi (now known as RTE66 at Purgatory) claims, but janphi has reviled mame as a liar several times at Purgatory. A friend of mine collected some of her posts from there. I will try to get to them, but if someone else has them, feel free.

    Things seemed to quiet down some for a while, then in 2001, it all started up again. mame had gotten janphi so scared, janphi had left her own home and lost a great deal of money because of the Krebs thing. She lit into mame about it, and mame played dumb. Again.


    I really don't remember Tommy. Does anyone rememer Tommy? mame must have really been having a meltdown the day she went after Tommy, since I can't remember that hat being in any way confrontational toward anyone. I don't remember that hat, period. Note the repetious "bad manners" quote.



    Then, there's the nasty post to Scully, or one of them, I should say:

    Digging up dirt. That's what the mamebots tried to do to the Whites for years, but they failed miserably.
     
  10. Watching You

    Watching You Superior Bee Admin

    Slinky

    mame played dumb on Slinky, too, but Slinky was right in there with the mameslugs the whole time, making stuff up about FW, "researching," and backstabbing JW posters. Whatever happened to Slinky? Is she here in disguise? Is she posting anywhere in disguise?



    mame was wrong about the FBI, too...

    That was the last word anyone heard because that was the last day the FBI gave one ounce of credence to Krebs' story. mame still didn't get it.


    Veiled comments about FW and distancing from Lee Hill:

    and distancing from Nancy Krebs:

    mame and her slugs go after AK, one of many posts trying to smear AK.

     
  11. Watching You

    Watching You Superior Bee Admin

    Another example of mame's sneakiness

    The subject was Fleet White and Nancy Krebs. To whom else but FW was mame referring when she wrote this post - all without naming him, but the inference, of course, was that FW was a dirty old man who rapes little girls.

    And, who were the "vultures" circling the carcass? Whose carcass? mame's carcass? I don't even think vultures would circle that wretched, smelly carcass. These were posters on the forum, real people asking real questions. mame seldom answered questions. Instead she went on the offensive, attacking at will.


    73. " the vultures..."
    Posted by mame on 20:03:16 4/01/2001
    circling the carcass, AGAIN!!! ha...

    bottom line is this...and it's what prevents me from feeling the least bit hurt by the few circling cyber vultures...

    DIRTY OLD MEN WHO RAPE LITTLE GIRLS AND THOSE WHO ADVOCATE AND SUPPORT THEIR VILE VOCATIONS, INCLUDING MASKED JOURNALISTS WITH AGENDAS, ARE POISONOUS CREATURES IN OUR SOCIETY. THEIR COMMENTS AND ACTIONS ARE SO FAR BENEATH THE COURAGOUS, SILENT TERROR OF THESE CHILDREN...IT'S BARELY WORTH ACKNOWLEDGING...THE ONLY REASON TO MENTION THEM IS TO POINT OUT THE LENGTHS THEY WILL GO TO FURTHER THIS MASS POISON...IF YOU DOUBT SUCH POISON EXISTS...PLEASE TAKE SOME TIME TO READ THE RECENT NEWSWEEK COVER STORY ON CHILD
    PORNOGRAPHY. ...

    ...for those many here who work to hide truth and justice by discrediting and demeaning...

    keep circling... [/QUOTE]



    mame on Bienkowski:

    mame doesn't think the credibility of Bienkowski is important in determining the credibility of Krebs? I damn well beg to differ. If Nancy and Bienkowski had anything other than a professional relationship, it's got a real big bearing on how this all played out. Ms. crabgrass reporter needs to learn how to track down the origins of stories, not feed off the hallucinations of an off-balanced woman.


    Here is an example of the big whoppers mame liked to tell. One one hand she says she's not trying to make anyone believe anything and that she is only doing the reporter. But, she sure makes a statement in a big way here:

    Those who fed her...also brutally raped her? That is a statement of fact and a libelous one at that. But, mame never claimed blahblahblahblah.
     
  12. Watching You

    Watching You Superior Bee Admin

    Continually mocking FW

    mame never missed an opportunity to try and belittle FW's efforts to clear his name.

    Frankly, a lot of us thought mame's name should have been on that list.



    more of mame's Fleet bashing, still without actually incriminating herself. Innuendo after insinuation after innuendo.


    The bold is mine. I remember at the time many posters asking mame to what she was referring by "let's hope they know about this man and his past..." In fact, I think at the time I questioned her about it, and Holly answered the question for me, telling me what she though mame meant, to which I replied, but that's not what she said, Holly, and showed Holly the post again. After that, neither of them would respond to this loaded statement by the mameslug.


    Mame says it only libel if it's untrue. Well, guess what, mamesuma, it wasn't true, and it was libel. Mame also uses this opportunity to give FW another slam

     
  13. Watching You

    Watching You Superior Bee Admin

    Somewhere in these posts

    there is a post by mame that says the "witness" stayed with her "for weeks." I don't know if I caught that post, but, if not, I'll have to go back and look for it, because there have been conflicting stories about the length of time Krebs stayed with mame.

    I always knew when I'd gotten to mame. She bared her dripping fangs at me every time.

    Generally speaking, mame acts like a b!tch.
     
    Last edited: Sep 8, 2003
  14. Watching You

    Watching You Superior Bee Admin

    mame was always

    coming home from somewhere, LOL. How she loved to try to impress with her busy little social life. I don't think many were too impressed with her fantasies. As mame states, she was always only too happy to stir the pot. The problem was, it wasn't the pot of truth, as she claimed. It was a pot of lies.


    If anyone should be gagging now, since the Krebs file was released to the public, it should be the mameslug. Instead she only gets more beligerant.


    mame on personal attacks, LOL. This is rich coming from one of the nasty nancy slugs, the queen of personal attacks, mame. Personal attacks were indeed supposed to be against the rules at JW, but mame got away with it but tried to act like Ms. Self Righteous, calling questions "personal attacks," just because she didn't want to be naysayed on anything.


     
  15. Watching You

    Watching You Superior Bee Admin

    I absolutely loved this one

    You know how the mamebots, including the mameslug herself, are always demanding sources for everything? My buddy tells me they are really demanding about sources at Purgatory. Too bad they don't practice their own demands.


    I also love that quote because mame couldn't write enough gushy stuff about how wonderful Steve Thomas was. She praised him mightily, until he did something that must have displeased Ms. High and Mighty Mouth.

    She was right about one thing, though. I'm still in Steve Thomas's corner. Not a fan club, though. That was just sour grapes from mame.


    More mame BS:

    Huh? How could this woman and her story hurt anyone? What kind of bimbo is this ignorant woman? The false story nearly DESTROYED Fleet White and his family. And, mame holds much of the blame for that.


    One of the tricks the mamester and her mamebots use is this question - "Why does this case scare you so much?" Why do folks get so damn nervous about?" "What are you afraid of?" It's a dumb question akin to the "When did you stop beating your wife" question. It assumes we are all afraid of, scared of, nervous about the case when nothing could be further from the truth. In fact, if we were afraid of the case, why on earth would we still be trying to get to the truth? None of us were ever afraid of the truth. The mameslugs were, though. The truth is kicking their butts now. The don't like it much.


    Time and the release of the Krebs file has proven mame's point here. Those who brought this story to light have been totally discredited. And flamed. mame still says she's standing tall, (and Nancy's still an honorable woman) but she can crow all she wants. It's the truth that is shining brightly, not mame's version of events.
     
  16. Watching You

    Watching You Superior Bee Admin

    The mameslug

    didn't much care who she attacked, even when she attacked the wrong person. I think I irritated mame. It wasn't difficult to irritate mame. Well, at least she apologized - to the general community, not to me directly. That was mame, though.




    mame on the stun gun marks. she never saw them, more hearsay by mame.


    mame used to like Ginja, LOL. That's changed, too, according to my buddy at Purg.

    Another post to Ginja. mame's getting a bit testy here.

    Yep, we know it as fact, now. It's in the Krebs file, the only record that counts.

    mame on helping Krebs and FBI involvement:


    mame trying (and failing) to discredit AK again. Note the trick I mentioned earlier where mame talks about "important people" being nervous - all because AK has caused mame some mental anquish.

    Sorry, but I really am rocking with laughter, now. mame touched a raw nerve of truth? No way, Jose. mame made a fool of herself. Period.
     
  17. Watching You

    Watching You Superior Bee Admin

    Beyond approaches

    We got sick of the mameslugs. Mame had a hissy fit.




     
  18. Driver

    Driver FFJ Senior Member

    WY. to your knowledge, has mame ever earned even one thin dime as a journalist, grass roots or otherwise?
     
  19. Watching You

    Watching You Superior Bee Admin

    Driver

    I have little personal knowledge on mame except what has been posted on the fora. She's no journalist, though, and if anyone ever paid her one thin dime for her attrocious writing skills, I'd be very surprised.


    Now, ms. entitlement mameslug, her mameship, wants special privileges for herself. This, after the way she and her bots have thorougly trashed Fleet White day after week after month after year. Priceless. BTW, there were NO personal references made about mame on the thread in question. She just didn't like being slammed the same way she slammed FW. It's interesting to note that Skydog did not "honor" her request. Imagine that.



    more mameslug beligerance:





    mame fabricates evidence:

    There was no flesh under JB's fingernails. There were no defenseive fingernail marks on her neck. mameslug is a drama queen much like Patsy Ramsey is.


    I'm bored with the mameslug. This has proven to be more informative than I could have dreamed. It's time to turn attention to the other mamebots - the ones who took mame's words, both public and private, and ran with them. Each look back tells us more about what really happened in this case.
     
  20. 1000 Sparks

    1000 Sparks Active Member

    Driver

    I'm wondering if mame had her boy kid and girl kid taken away from her for putting them in harms way when "they" were after her and Krebs..

    They were all in fear for their lives....

    Poor kids.

    Good thread WY (for once).
     
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