Ramsey 911 Call Project

Discussion in 'Justice for JonBenet Discussion - Public Forum' started by Spade, Oct 11, 2003.

  1. Spade

    Spade Member

    Two more pieces of information regarding the ongoing project to "enhance", I actually like "clarify" better, the 911 tape. The project involves 3 labs and a network of audio recovery experts around the country. One of the 1st goals of the project was to establish that the sounds on the tape originated in the Ramsey house and were not added to the tape by the BPD in order to railroad the Ramseys.

    To accomplish this, the lab built a robot that listened to the 1st part (pre-hangup attempt) of the 911 tape 1,000's of times. The robot programmed itself with the ambiant sound in the Ramsey house. (like the sound of the refrigerator, etc) The robot then listened to the post-hangup portion of the tape and determined that THE SOUNDS ON THE TAPE IN THE 1st PART AND THE POST-HANGUP SECTION ORIGINATED IN THE RAMSEY HOUSE.

    A 2nd goal was to pinpoint the exact moment that the Ramsey's phone disconnected from the 911 operator. This was actually quite easy since the disconnect sound is unique. The disconnect occurs AFTER the adult male and juvenile male voices stop talking.

    The determination that an attempt was made to ERASE part of the tape before releasing it to the public wasd a joint effort of all the labs. They are POSITIVE that a magnet was used and that it was done prior to the Boulder DA's office creation of the CD.
     
  2. Ilene-Sue

    Ilene-Sue Member

    Spade,

    Who asked the labs to analyze the tapes (you do not have to be specific-- a media outlet would suffice) and where does this take us to now?
     
  3. Spade

    Spade Member

    Ilene-Sue

    This started as a private effort by a number of people including Tricia. The forensic audio/data recovery business is tight group of individuals that regularly network together. I don't know the bonafides of the poster Dave who analyzed the tape for Jams but these people all have PhD's and are recognized by LE as tops in this field. Lin Wood's allegations about Steve Thomas PO'd the group and so they are on a quest to bring out the truth.

    I have no doubts about their ability to succeed.
     
  4. Ilene-Sue

    Ilene-Sue Member

    Thank you Spade. No doubt the PROPER authorites and the media have been contacted?
     
  5. Ginja

    Ginja Member

    I love it!

    Let's see what else we can find that Lin Wood's said that will :(:(:(:( off LE who give a damn. I've known for a long time that if the goal is simply to get an objective, unbiased investigation, it'll go nowhere.

    That's why I suggested we get the media to go after the corruption.

    Wood's allegations against Thomas have :(:(:(:(ed off the specialists looking into the tape. I think we can chalk that up to "our" side of getting someone to look into the corruption. Someone put a magnet to that tape and I think we'd be pretty hard-pressed to prove it happened in the BPD. IOW, Thomas certainly didn't do it, and I seriously doubt anyone else in the department did.

    I think Wood knows the magnet hit that tape and he immediately pointed to the BPD, saying they fabricated the voices.

    This is certainly something the media could bite its teeth into.

    Once they start biting, I'm sure they're going to wind up with quite the mouthful. This case was corrupted first thing that morning...there's plenty there for the media to feast upon.

    P.S. Go! Trish and Spade...my "heroes". ;)
     
  6. zoomama

    zoomama Active Member

    And Ginja,

    God Bless the robot...long may he/she/it beep-beep.
     
  7. Ginja

    Ginja Member

    Zoomama

    Ahhhh, the robot! Let's not forget him/her/it.

    Beep Beep?

    More like, bada BOOM!

    :D
     
  8. RiverRat

    RiverRat FFJ Sr. Member Extraordinaire (Pictured at Lef

    Spade

    Mame is hard at work over at RamseyLand smearing your reputation and the project. What a relief that must have been for Fleet to have her fangs finally removed from his arse for a moment!

    Do you have any clue why that bored housewife went after a total stranger with such a vengence? I know that she tried to snag an interview with Fleet before she underwent her transformation. As always - she was unsuccessful. Is this where her anger became unmanagable? Or did she have a hard time keeping her hands to herself - again - and is enraged because she was rejected - again??

    Poor mame - she should have kept her Mouth shut. Spade, if you want to contact me, I would be more than happy to fill you in on something that Fleet should know.

    RR
     
  9. 1000 Sparks

    1000 Sparks Active Member

    halp.........

    Rivermouse, I want to know what Fleet should know.

    Where is mame now? I need to know.

    Thank you.
     
  10. RiverRat

    RiverRat FFJ Sr. Member Extraordinaire (Pictured at Lef

    Sparky

    She is spewing this at the swamp:

    "I'd say Tricia has been "had". If *pade is the "technical advisor" on this little science project, there are big problems to begin with. I find it fascinating that he is in high gear AGAIN...it's almost predictable...Candy found the DA's office is looking at Fleet White. That tidbit is not shocking to those of us who study this case closely.

    Trust me...when this guy shows up there's a reason!

    He arrived on the scene right about the time they come out with their "Nancy Krebs Website", and now this "scientific" (cough, cough) analysis of the 911 tape.

    Wonder if he's still checking in with his parole officer?

    Here's a clue. Check into this character, follow his involvement in this case. It will lead you to some dark and shadowy places...

    They all think they've come up with some big "breaks" in the case. I'd say they should start looking into the company they keep!"

    THE BEST PART IS NEXT.........
    RR
     
  11. Spade

    Spade Member

    Charging the Boulder DA' s office with evidence tampering is NOT a goal of this project. Actually, IMO they didn't tamper with EVIDENCE since the tape and CD were just copies for the public after Wood went on his media tour. If it turns out that somebody took their Boy Scout magnet to the original tape then that is a different story.
     
  12. RiverRat

    RiverRat FFJ Sr. Member Extraordinaire (Pictured at Lef

    WRONG AGAIN!

    "Candy just wrote to tell me she has no personal knowledge that FW is a suspect. Apparently, what I read was in reference to a communication between Keith Andrews and Tricia.

    I stand corrected."

    ******************************************

    RR speaking now - let me correct maME on one more thing. She was quick to comment on the situation with Real Stormy, insinuating that maybe RS should also rethink her stance on other opinions that RS has. I highly doubt that RS believes now that she is the baby rapist henchman that you labeled her to be.

    RiverRat
     
  13. Driver

    Driver FFJ Senior Member

    RiverRat, if you tell Sparky you have to tell me, too.
     
  14. 1000 Sparks

    1000 Sparks Active Member

    Driver

    Some things are best left unsaid.
     
  15. Driver

    Driver FFJ Senior Member

    Wise, wise words, Sparkles.
     
  16. Deja Nu

    Deja Nu Banned

    I was just going to post that Candy never stated that FW was being targeted by BDA, RR, but you beat me to the punch!

    Spade, if your efforts disclose what you are posting they do, and I am not doubting but defending you at other forums, that is clear proof of evidence tampering, obstruction of justice and other criminal activity by someone, BDA or otherwise. We should expect LE to follow up with an official criminal investigation and prosecution, and they will, whether we all agree to it or not. That's responsible law enforcement, justice and common sense. While the thrust of your activities may not lean in this direction, let's not commit the same sins BPD and BDA did in not working together to find justice for JonBenet. Investigators and legals should work together to accomplish that goal, right?

    Mame, did I hear Sadie barking again? I think your efforts are better served elsewhere, dear, but personal bashing always seems to be your only line of defense when you've been bested. Learn to live with disappointment, k?
     
  17. LurkerXIV

    LurkerXIV Moderator

    RR and others--PLEASE!

    Candy deliberately took words from a post by Tricia out of context, put her spin on them, then spammed half a dozen (or more) fora with the absolute LIE that FW is being re-investigated.

    Fleet White is NOT--I repeat is NOT--being investigated by anyone but batty mame and subhuman Morgan and their gang.

    Won't Candy be surprised when she gets slapped with a libel suit! She had better get busy retracing her steps to all those other fora and issuing a very public RETRACTION.
     
  18. LurkerXIV

    LurkerXIV Moderator

    Here is Candy's spam libel

    --which has been forwarded to FW:

    (Verbatim from Websleuths)

    I read that it is believed that the Ramsey investigators and DA's office may be investigating Fleet White again. This should not be coming as any surprise. As litigious as Fleet White is, he has never bothered to sue the Ramseys, or stand up to them in any way no matter how many times they have thrown him under the bus. He never stood up to them the way Chris Wolf and LHP did, and the Ramseys will happily say he is a suspect forever and do whatever kind of investigation they want of him.
    Now they have further justification for it by the DA's office. After DA Keenan turned over documents on the MW case, what do the Whites do but turn around and sue her on another matter, sue her so ineptly that it wasn't even filed in the proper jurisdiction? Keenan probably thinks they are wingnuts, just like the Kobe judge who they wrote to and got thrown in with all the other wingnuts that wrote to him. Keenan is probably only too happy to let the Ramseys and her investigators investigate him again. Keenan, like Hunter before her, has absolute prosecutorial immunity for anything she does in office. She can investigate anyone, or not investigate anyone, and never be charged with anything.
     
  19. Spade

    Spade Member

    DejaNu

    I would agree that it is evidence tampering IF this had been done to the original tape. However, this is "just" the tape the DA's office released to the public. A public incidentally that has shelled out over $1,000,000 for this DA's BS. A public that is having to get by with less fire and police protection because of this DA's BS.

    I will be happy to be proven wrong but just like all the other BS that comes out of this DA's office, I don't think it is prosecutable.
     
  20. Deja Nu

    Deja Nu Banned

    Spade, man, do you have a history with Candy? She is just raggin' your behind something fierce over at CS and my efforts to make her stop seem to be futile. Forgive me for my failure.

    I hear where you're coming from about the BDA. But I'm concerned that the original tape is still around and intact as BPD left it and we don't know if it is or isn't. My concerns grow deeper since Keenan was given all the case crap and she may be involved in this tampering endeavor. At this point, I don't know who to blame...except for all the attorneys. Ethics do not abound in Boulder, that's fer sure!

    Nevertheless, any effort by anyone to spin other than the truth about the contents of the 911 call is subject to a criminal investigation under probable cause--well, anywhere else but Boulder. I'm hoping your efforts will be SO dynamic and documented that we can raise bloody hell enough to get something done. Didn't you post earlier that the labs were going to turn this over to an LE agency? I see and have posted the potential, but cannot deny you are right to a degree. Hope does spring eternal though.....sigh
     
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