The Morning of 12/26/96

Discussion in 'Justice for JonBenet Discussion - Public Forum' started by Spade, Oct 29, 2003.

  1. Spade

    Spade Member

    This rendition of what happened the morning of 12/26/96 is IMO opinion accurate. The source is material purchased from the nephew of the legal secretary.

    For the record, I am not related to the Ramsey's or Fleet White by marriage dispite what the swamp mistress may post.


    Officer Rick French was dispatched to 755 15th Street in Boulder
    at approximately 5:52 a.m. on the report of a possible kidnapping. He was met at the door by the distraught Patsy and
    by John who told him that their six-year-old daughter was missing and their nine-year-old son was asleep upstairs. Patsy, hysterical and apparently confused about the sequence of the mornings events, told officer French that she went into JonBenet’s bedroom at approximately 5:45 a.m. that morning to wake her up for the trip and saw that she was not in bed. As she was coming down the spiral staircase she found the note stating that her daughter had been kidnapped. John then lead French through the house and pointed out a three page handwritten note which still lay on the hallway floor next to the kitchen.

    French noted that Patsy, dressed in a red turtle sweater and black pants, was pacing back and forth, but eventually settled in an overstuffed chair in the sitting room located at the southeast of the main floor. Patsy stared at French her eyes riveted him, but tried to conceal her actions with her fingers splayed over her eyes.

    French did a quick inspection of the interior of the house and found all the doors locked, including the door leading from JonBenet’s bedroom to the second floor balcony. There were no signs of the missing child. French inspected the basement during this search, but was not able to open one room in the basement on the south end of the house because of a top latch. John told Officer French that too had personally checked for unlocked doors and windows – John said he found the house locked up as it had been left the night before.

    When asked about the security alarm system, John told French that
    it had not been engaged for several years. While the remodeling
    of the residence was still in process, JonBenet, then only a
    toddler, had dragged a small bench over to the key pad to the system and began hitting the keys. The interior alarm was so deafening that they couldn't even hear to telephone the security company to notify them that it was a false alarm.

    Almost immediately police cars and sirens were heard coming down
    the street. Since the Ramseys had not used the system since they
    had moved into the new house, they didn't know the code to shut
    it off. Because of this mishap and a couple of subsequent false
    alarms, they had decided not to activate the system.

    After his cursory inspection of the house, French took a statement from John regarding the events of the prior evening. John related that the family had arrived home around 9:00 p.m., that Burke and Patsy had gone immediately to bed, and that he had read to JonBenet for a few minutes before he went to bed. Apparently the morning's stress had also confused John, as the sequence of events he related to French about the prior evening would differ at his later official statement.

    Arriving almost immediately after the first officers on scene were John and Barbara Fernie, close friends of both John and Patsy. They were soon joined by Fleet and Priscilla White, with whom the Ramsey family had spent the evening of Christmas day just hours before the disappearance of their daughter. Patsy confirmed that she had called both the Whites and the Ferniest after notifying the police. Bill and Heather Cox, guests staying at the Whites’ home, also appeared. Barbara Fernie called the Ramsey’s pastor, Rev. Rol Haberstock from St. John’s Presbyterian Church, and asked him to come.

    According to the family friends, the hysterical Patsy was alternating between noncoherent praying to God and Jesus and screaming, " They have my baby.†At one point Patsy screamed at John, “You have to give them the money and get out baby back.†John, attempting to comfort his wife, responded, “We’ll get her back. She'll be okay.''

    Within minutes of arriving at the Ramsey home, Fleet decided to look around the house. His own daughter had been missing a few months ago, and after the police were called they found her hiding under her bed. Fleet was hoping that JonBenet too was just hiding somewhere in the house. Since everyone had been told by the police officers not to go upstairs, Fleet went town to the basement. He noticed that the lights were on. He found a small piece of glass from a broken window in a room used for model trains. In checking the latch for the window he discovered that it was unlocked, but closed. Fleet also noticed a blue suitcase was sitting underneath the window. He continued with his search by opening every cupboard and door. He opened the door to the wine cellar, reached inside, but could not find the light switch and could not see inside the room. The wind cellar is completely formed by cement and has no windows. Finding no evidence of anyone entering or leaving from the basement area and no trace of JonBenet, Fleet went back upstairs.

    Patrol Sgt. Reichenbach, responding to the call to go to the 15th
    Street address, passed a time and temperature sign in a mall parking lot on his way to the Ramsey home. The temperature in Boulder that morning was 9 degrees. A light dusting of snow lay sprinkled on the ground, mostly visible on the neighborhood lawns. Upon his arrival at the residence Reichenbach conducted a brief inspection of the outside of the premises. In addition to the newly fallen snow, portions of the yard were covered with one or two inches of crusty snow from a prior snowfall. He noted that no footprints were visible in the new snow that adhered to the grass and pavement areas surrounding the house nor in the old snow still remaining.

    Det. Michael Everett, the Lead Crime Scene investigator Boulder police department, was also told to report to the Ramsey residence to assist in the crime scene search with Det. Sgt. Tom Wickman, the supervisor in charge of the crime scene. When they arrived they too inspected the outside of the residence. They discovered a basement level window with a broken pane. As they were inspecting the window well for any evidence of entry, they noticed that the grate placed over thee window well was covered with a spider web which appeared undisturbed, making it unlikely that anyone had entered through that window.

    According to John and Patsy, Burke had remained asleep during
    Patsy's morning screams and commotion of people coming and going
    from the residence. At approximately 7:0 a.m., John decided it
    was time to wake Burke. It had already been decided that Burke
    would be taken to the White's residence where relatives were
    still staying for the holidays. John, accompanied by Fleet, went
    up to Burke's room. John woke his sleeping son, “Why don't you
    get up, buddy. You're going over to White's house to see Fleet,
    Jr." Burke's only reaction to the disturbance of his sleep was,
    "Okay." Burke put his clothes on, grabbed his Nintendo and a
    couple of Christmas toys to take on his visit to his friend's
    house, and followed his father and Fleet downstairs. Fleet
    immediately took Burke outside to his vehicle and drove way.
    Never once did Burke ask why policemen were at his house. The only conversation that passed between the two during the ride was occasional mention of Burke’s Nintendo he got for Christmas which he had brought with him.

    Det. Linda Arndt, a member of the Sexual Assault and Crimes
    Against Children team of the Boulder police department, was
    called at home, informed of the reported kidnapping and
    instructed to respond to the Ramsey residence to assist the
    officers already on scene. She was told that the local phone
    company had been contacted to set up a "trap" on all incoming
    phone calls. In fact, this "trap" was activated even prior to
    Arndt arriving at the Ramsey residence. On her way, Arndt stopped
    at her office to pick up a hand-held tape recorder and meet with
    Det. Fred Patterson who would accompany her to the scene of the
    crime. Arndt and Patterson stopped briefly at a local mall
    parking lot to meet with Reichenbach, who had just left the
    residence, to be briefed on the situation at the Ramsey house.
    Reichenbach told the two detectives that French, the first
    officer on scene, said that "something didn't seem right".

    Arndt and Patterson arrived at approximately 8:10 a.m. and were met by French. Also already on the scene were Boulder Crime Scene investigators Barry Weiss and Sue Barcklow. Weiss was photographing the interior and exterior of the residence, and Barcklow was attempting to obtain latent finger prints. Two victim advocates, dispatched from the Boulder police department, were with the Ramseys, trying to give comfort to the victimized
    parents.

    The original ransom note had been collected into evidence, transported to police headquarters and copies returned to the Ramsey home. Some of the detectives were working on obtaining the ransom money – Lafayette State Bank was contacted about providing the cash. Family friend, John Fernie, had also been to his bank and arranged for the $118,000 to be available within an hours notice in the denominations required by the ransom note.
    Fernie noted that $118,000 was a relatively insignificant amount compared to Ramsey’s wealth. According to Fernie, "They could have asked for $10,000,000 and obtained that amount.

    Arndt met with John Ramsey, explained the procedure for the telephone "trap", and asked permission to also hook up the portable tape recorder she had retrieved from the police department. She instructed him on using the tape recorder should a call come in from the kidnappers. During this discussion with John he was able to carry on a conversation, and was focused and articulate with his words. He sometimes even smiled and joked.

    Det. Robert Whitson arrived at the Ramsey residence at approximately 9:30 a.m. to inform John that the FBI had been notified and were assisting in the investigation. Whitson briefly talked to John about security for the home, and John again stated that he had personally locked up the house on the night of December 25, and that he rechecked that morning and found everything was still locked. Whitson and Patterson then asked John for samples of his handwriting. John went to a counter near the spiral staircase and picked up two letter-size pads of white lined paper. John handed both pads to Det. Patterson explaining that one pad contained prior writings of Patsy and the other his prior writings. Patterson took the pads and made a notation on the tope of each indicating which one belonged to Patsy and which one belonged to John.

    Whitson later showed the notebook indicated as Patsy’s to Detective Jeff Kithcart. As Kithcart examined the notepad, he discovered among the pages a sheet of paper with the beginning of a note in a similar ink and handwriting style as the ransom note. This page, apparently a false start for the final note, only contained the words, “Mr. and Mrs. Râ€


    Arndt then met with the distraught and visibly shaken Patsy. Looking disheveled and physically exhausted she had been peering at the detectives from her chair in the sitting room. Barbara Fernie and Priscilla were at her side, along with the Boulder police department victim advocates. Patsy, appearing dazed, spoke softly when she talked and seemed to be staring vacantly into the distance. Intermittently collapsing in tears, she told Arndt that the family had arrived home at approximately 9M P.M.
    the evening before, that she had put JonBenet to bed wearing a red
    turtle neck shirt and white long johns, and that she had gone to bed
    immediately after that herself. As she had also told French, Patsy said that the next morning she discovered JonBenet was not in her room and then walked down the stairs where the ransom note lay. When asked who had a key to the house Patsy stated, "The only person in Colorado with a key is my
    housekeeper Linda Hoffman-Pugh.†Patsy brought up the housekeeper's name again when Arndt questioned her on who might be responsible for the kidnapping.
    "Linda asked to borrow money from me on December 24. She needed $2,000 –
    for family dental work, I think. I was suppose to leave her a check on the
    kitchen counter before we left for Michigan." Patsy explained that Linda had family problems, not only with her husband who was a "drinker", but also with her two grown children. Patsy told Arndt that Linda's husband,
    Mervin Pugh, had also been hired a few months ago to do some chores around the house. Patsy had previously told one of the detectives that the handwriting in the note did somewhat resemble Linda's writing, but she admitted to Arndt that the words in the note were not words that Linda would use.

    Although Patsy was able to cast suspicions on the housekeeper during this conversation, she seemed unable to focus on other questions being asked and her thoughts were scattered. She asked Arndt what the police were doing and repeated several times, “Why couldn’t I hear my baby.†After the brief interview with Patsy, Arndt returned to the den. Since the room in which Patsy sat was a distance from the kitchen and den area, Arndt had little contact with her after their initial conversation and could not monitor her actions, so she asked French to remain with Patsy.

    The gingerbread houses made by JonBenet and Burke at the family party only two days before still sat on the dining room table – a melancholy reminder of the laughter and innocence of childhood that had filled the home so recently. Also visible on the dining room table was a bowl of half-eaten pineapple chunks and an empty glass – apparently a late-night snack left from someone the night before.

    Arndt met again with John to go over instructions for him should the author of the ransom note call. John was to get very explicit instructions from the kidnappers, he should demand to talk to JonBenet, and he was to tell them that he would not be able to get the money until 5:00 p.m. John dutifully made notes of these things he was to say when the kidnapper called. Arndt looked down at the list being created by John and noticed that he had placed an asterisk next to the notation "talk with JBâ€. At the time Arndt thought it odd that John would want to somehow highlight this instruction.

    When not talking to an officer, John stayed by himself, and strangely, there was no interaction with Patsy. The victim advocates who had remained at Patsy's side assumed that John and Patsy were either divorced or estranged, because of the lack of communication between the two of them that morning. John seemed to pace the floor nervously in the area between the dining room and den, but ran to answer the phone every time it rang. Arndt observed that when John did sit down, one of his legs bounced up and down in nervous spasms.

    In order not to tie the up any lines, all outgoing calls made from the Ramsey home were done on cell phones, belonging to John Ramsey and John Fernie, located inside the residence. John did answer two phone calls which caused him to react by sobbing and having difficulty talking. One call was from his son, John Andrew, and the second from his daughter, Melissa.

    No one seemed to notice at first that the suspected kidnappers had not called by 10:00 a.m. the appointed time according to the ransom note.

    Arndt again went over the prior day’s activities with John, who repeated the sequence of events as he had to Officer French: After the family had arrived home from the dinner party at the Whites residence, Patsy and Burke went immediately to bed. He read a book JonBenet and tucked her in bed before he himself went to bed. When Arndt asked about the locking of doors, John replied, “I personally checked all of the doors and all of the windows in the house this morning, and all the doors and windows were locked.†John also told Arndt that there were no interior lights on in the residence when he went to bed that night.

    Noted by several investigators during the search of the house was a paper bag containing children's clothing sitting in the doorway to the den. Priscilla White, trying to busy herself during the tense waiting hours, inspected the bag and, finding that it contained winter ski pants, jackets and boots for JonBenet and Burke, moved it to a cloak room.

    As 10:30 a.m. approached, some of the detectives and the victim advocates starting leaving the Ramsey residence. Photographs of JonBenet and a physical description were obtained in order to provide information to local police departments about the missing child. Before leaving, Weiss showed Arndt the areas of the residence that had been processed for evidence. Weiss had processed the first floor glass door on the north side of the house, as John told him that was the only residence door which did not have a securing deadbolt. Also, the spiral staircase leading from the main floor to the second floor bedrooms was processed for fingerprints. The handrail of this staircase was decorated with a green Christmas garland, as were other areas of the Ramsey home. Arndt and Weiss then made a brief inspection of JonBenet's bedroom. Weiss had noted when the officers arrived that there was frost on the patio outside her bedroom and there was no sign of footprints or other evidence of disturbance of the frost. The officers continued on the second floor inspection to the laundry area adjacent to the children’s bedrooms. The detectives noticed a red garment soaking in the laundry sink. They entered the third bedroom which had been John Andrew's bedroom but was now unoccupied, and then into Burke's room.

    Outside of Burke's bedroom was the spiral staircase that lead up to the third floor where the master bedroom and home office are located, and down to the main floor front entry area. Weiss and Arndt did a visual inspection of them master bedroom and adjoining office. Arndt noticed that John had hastily dropped his navy blue bathrobe on the floor next to his desk. She also noticed on John's nightstand next to his bed was the book Mindhunter by John
    Douglas, a former FBI agent. Douglas' book depicts his background and work in the field of murders, murderers and criminal research. Arndt thought this book was rather gruesome late night reading material.

    The detectives returned to the second floor and sealed JonBenet's bedroom with crime scene tape to prevent anyone from entering that room.

    Soon the only police official remaining was Detective Arndt, along with John and Patsy and the family friends. T hen even John left to pick up the family's mail, and was gone approximately an hour and 20 minutes. When John returned Detective Arndt noted that he sat in the kitchen and opened the mail. John still remained in a room by himself not making contact with Patsy or any of the friends who stayed to console the family.

    Arndt again talked with Patsy who had now relocated to the den area and laid down on the couch. Barbara and Priscilla were still by Patsy's side. Patsy again asked what the police were doing. Arndt told her that she was attempting to locate the housekeeper and that the FBI was now involved in the investigation. Patsy and Arndt started discussing the ransom note. Patsy told her that she could not think of any significance to the $118.000 figure requested by the kidnappers. She also observed that at whoever wrote the note must not know John since the referred to him as a Southern and he was from Michigan. During this conversation Patsy, looking physically exhausted, started crying many times and was often unable to speak. Again, she repeatedly said, “Why didn’t I hear my baby
     
  2. Ayeka

    Ayeka Member

    Bump!

    This is excellent. Very interesting stuff -- some of which I was unaware. I want the rest!

    Except for the splayed finger routine, Patsy almost sounds genuine. John's behaviour: weird. Asterisking and highlighting the "Speak to JB" instruction. Disappearing for an hour and twenty minutes getting the mail.

    And what's this, pineapple AND a glass of water? I hope that glass was looked at up, down and sideways.

    Thanks, Spade.

    Ayeka
     
  3. zoomama

    zoomama Active Member

    Well, well

    Yes, I too, spoted some things I hadn't heard before. The * maarking the spot on the list to tell the kidnappers "to ask to speak to JB" is one. Actually making the list is news in itself. I had not heard that at all previously. And the other earlier in John's narrative is that when Jon Benet was a toddler she pushed a bench over the wall with the security pad on it and began pushing buttons which resulted in the alarm sounding throughout the house deafening them. That was new because since that time even though JBR was older now he claims that is the reason he hadn't used the security system. Strange to think that the actions of a baby prevent you from doing adult things regarding your own safety. Just an excuse or is it laziness on his part?
    And the dish with the pineapple and a glass on the dining room table? My mind is fading I realize, but I thought the dish withthe pineapple was found on the kitchen counter. No mention of a glass was made that I am aware of either. And no mention of the printless flashlight on the kitchen counter.
    Excellent finding Spade and thanks.
     
  4. Driver

    Driver FFJ Senior Member

    I thought that the information about John leaving the house for the mail was refuted long ago. Is that not the case?

    Giving the devil his due, I pondered on the asterisk made about asking to speak to JonBenet. I could imagine someone doing this as a way to highlight it so that it wouldn't be forgotten in the rush of the moment.
     
  5. Spade

    Spade Member

    Driver

    I also heard that the story about John leaving the house had been debunked. It is very difficult to sort fact from fiction. I do know that John and Patsy Ramsey have lied to LE from 5:52AM December 26, 1996. Consequently, I place very little credibility in ANYTHING they or their ABK say including the BS that they are Christians.
     
  6. Freebird

    Freebird Active Member

    So there was actually snow that night?

    Back to Burke.....I can't help it but if my kids were expecting to go on vacation to have another Christmas and go on the big red boat and I woke them up on the morning of the trip to say they were instead going to their friends house, why I'd still be there answering questions.
    I know he was young but this just don't seem normal for a kid to not question why his house was full of cops and he was being shipped out. Not 1 question!........
     
  7. zoomama

    zoomama Active Member

    Freebird,

    I agree, not one question on his part nor any whining of any kind. Could it be that he already knew what was going on? Well of course he did. Also it seems strange to me that with one child kidnapped and "the foreign faction" running amuck that they would let their other child go so easily. But of course we know why they wanted him out of the house so early and so quickly...so he wouldn't be questioned or he wouldn't talk about what went on.

    I've never subscribed to any theory that "Burke did it" but I also wouldn't be surprised if somehow he was involved. In fact nothing would surprise me about this case after all the lies, all the years of pretending to be innocent and/or christians that the Ramseys have done.
     
  8. zoomama

    zoomama Active Member

    Freebird,

    I agree, not one question on his part nor any whining of any kind. Could it be that he already knew what was going on? Well of course he did. Also it seems strange to me that with one child kidnapped and "the foreign faction" running amuck that they would let their other child go so easily. But of course we know why they wanted him out of the house so early and so quickly...so he wouldn't be questioned or he wouldn't talk about what went on.

    I've never subscribed to any theory that "Burke did it" but I also wouldn't be surprised if somehow he was involved. In fact nothing would surprise me about this case after all the lies, all the years of pretending to be innocent and/or christians that the Ramseys have done.
     
  9. zoomama

    zoomama Active Member

    Ooops

    How do you delete a thingy?
     
  10. Elle

    Elle Member

    Re: The Morning

    Spade, Could this legal secretary be charged for allowing this account to fall into the hands of her nephew?

    I find this rendition does differ somewhat from all the information we have read in books and on the net relating to the JonBenét case.

    1. French inspected the basement during this search, but was not able to open one room in the basement on the south end of the house because of a top latch.

    According to what I read in Steve Thomas’ book. Officer French took one look at this windowless room and didn’t bother opening it because of the locked latch on the outside of the door.

    No mention is made here of any chair being up against the train room door, which John Ramsey mentioned at a later date. (?)


    2. Patsy confirmed that she had called both the Whites and the Ferniest after notifying the police. Bill and Heather Cox, guests staying at the Whites’ home, also appeared.

    This is a new one on me(?). This was never mentioned before that the White's guests were also there (?).

    3. Patsy, appearing dazed, spoke softly when she talked and seemed to be staring vacantly into the distance. Intermittently collapsing in tears, she told Arndt that the family had arrived home at approximately 9M P.M. the evening before, that she had put JonBenet to bed wearing a red turtle neck shirt and white long johns,

    Here, we have confirmation that Patsy did talk about putting JB to bed in a red top, and then later changed this to the white top with the sequined star …the one she was found dead in.

    4. The officers continued on the second floor inspection to the laundry area adjacent to the children’s bedrooms. The detectives noticed a red garment soaking in the laundry sink.

    Confirmation is also here about a red garment soaking in the laundry sink. In Thomas’ book this is stated as a “ red balled up top†on the counter in JB's bathroom .

    Patsy told her friend Pam she had to waken Jonbenét at midnight every night to prevent JB from wetting the bed, but denies doing this on Christmas night.

    According to the information you just posted it seems Patsy could have wakened JonBenét up at midnight as she usualy does, when a red garment was found soaking in the laundry sink.
     
  11. Spade

    Spade Member

    Elle_1

    Thank you for a very perceptive read. I will try to answer your questions.

    1. Can the legal secretary be charged?

    I don't think so. She started out thinking she could write a book but decided mid-stream that she better sell the info to the tabs. The transfer to the nephew was purposeful; he was kind-of her agent.

    2. The wooden latch on the wine cellar door & Officer French?

    Fleet White also looked INTO the wine cellar at about the same time maybe even prior to Officer French and did not see JonBenet's body. Who latched/unlatched the wine cellar door? Good question!

    3. Bill and Heather Cox, Priscilla's neice and her husband, were also mentioned in the 1st responder report. They were holiday guests at the start of a ski vacation.
     
  12. LurkerXIV

    LurkerXIV Moderator

    Leaks

    So, may we assume that all the leaks early on came from this secretary at the DA's office? The very same leaks, from which the Vanity Fair article seems to have been written, and attributed by the pro-Rams to Detective Steve Thomas?

    Whom to believe in this neverending saga?
     
  13. Spade

    Spade Member

    Lurker

    The secretary did NOT work at the DA's office. She worked for one of the private lawyers who was part of the BPD's "dream team".
    Her notes were not sold to the tabs until 1999. Long after the Vanity Fair article was published.

    IMO Steve Thomas was rightly named as the primary source for Ann Bardach, author of the Vanity Fair article. Proving once again that the path to hell is paved by people with good intentions. Steve probably figured that Ann had a lot more class than jeffy. Proving once again that hindsight is 100%.
     
  14. Deja Nu

    Deja Nu Banned

    Quote: "1. Can the legal secretary be charged?

    I don't think so. She started out thinking she could write a book but decided mid-stream that she better sell the info to the tabs. The transfer to the nephew was purposeful; he was kind-of her agent."

    Not quite, Spade. Assuming this secretary was an at-will employee and not under contract, and according to employment law, and especially as relates to employment in an especially sensitive area such as law or police work, all employees have a fiduciary responsibility to their employer not to divulge confidential information garnered in the course and scope of employment. This secretary's notes technically are the property of the employer since they were created during her employment period and directly relate to the nature and scope of the employer's business and the secretary's duties. By absconding with these notes and publishing them, she technically has placed the employer in a breach of its own fiduciary duty and attorney-client privilege. Her actions also put the BPD technically into a breach of its fiduciary duty to the state of CO and its citizens. BPD could sue this attorney for the secretary's actions, and, the employer could bring suit against her for breach of confidentiality and breach of fiduciary duty, as well as creating liability for itself (wilful negligence). If this secretary for whatever reason had been under contract to provide clerical services to this attorney, breach of contract would also apply. She has not only placed herself at risk but her employer and his client as well.

    Now IF this secretary should happen to have taken these notes home to transcribe and while there, some wayward nephew perhaps lifted them from her desk, then she would not be liable.

    I have not researched CO employment statutes before posting this, but my guess is that they pretty much mirror typical statutes in the western states that hold to this doctrine. Non-professional status employees are duty-bound to protect the interests of the employer and its clients just as professional status employees. That is common knowledge in law firms.

    That being said, the costs of bringing civil action against this secretary would probably have exceeded what she earned in the sale and what she makes in a year, therefore, making suit cost-prohibitive. However, when one takes into account the alleged leakage from BPD itself in this case, the secretary's misdeed would pale in comparison should those allegations prove true.

    Nevertheless, it is something to keep in mind as we go about our daily responsibilities.
     
  15. Elle

    Elle Member

    Thanks for the reply Spade. According to Lawrence Schiller in Perfect Murder Perfect Town (paperback) page 44. Priscilla took the call from Patsy Ramsey at 6:00 am. and they dressed and went up there within minutes. So they arrived after Officer French. Fleet White told the detectives he had gone downstairs shortly after he arrived. On this page Fleet talks about seeing nothing and closes the door. He doesn't remember if he relatched it, but he does tell John Fernie that a window downstairs had been punched open.


    John Ramsey in "Death of Innocence" (paperback) page 22 talks about just opening this door - no mention of sliding the wooden latch open first. Of course it's now after 1:00pm and he was gone for one hour and 20 minutes according to the legal secretary's report, and I remember reading that he told the detectives he went downstairs at 10:00 am.

    This part of the crime has always intrigued me. It was good to read the secretary's report. I'm sure we all learned something new from it. Thank you for posting it.
     
  16. Niner

    Niner Active Member

    Huh? a mall parking lot?? doesn't that seem strange to anyone? Why not meet at the PD station?? and that hand-help tape recorder - wonder if she had that one while talking with the Ramseys or anyone else in the house that morning...???

    sorry, to bring up a an older thread, but wanted to ask a few questions on this one...:) since I don't post much...
     
  17. Niner

    Niner Active Member

    another Huh? moment!! I thought JR called his friend Westmoreland to arrange ransom money??!!

    Wow - this sure is different from what we know - or I should say - that I have heard about this case!!
     
  18. Niner

    Niner Active Member

    "red turtle neck shirt" - hmmm.... the one balled up wet in the bathroom??
     
  19. Niner

    Niner Active Member

    I thought there were LOTS of people who had keys to their house?? didn't they give a whole long list to BPD???
     
  20. Niner

    Niner Active Member

    so that's TWICE he mentioned reading to JonBenet....

    This is the FIRST time I've actually heard wht's in THAT bag!!
     
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