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    Default John Ramsey, "There is a perverse side of me..."

    There is a perverse (side) of me (that) doesn't want to see it ever go off the front pages, even though it's very harmful to Patsy and I. But I don't want people to forget about it. I want to find this person...so I'm helpful even though we're awful tired of people sitting outside our home with binoculars and cameras.
    The above quote is from JonBenet. The Police Files.

    There are so many things duplicitous about this quote, so many things hypocritical about it, I don't know where to start.

    There is a perverse (side) of me (that) doesn't want to see it ever go off the front pages, even though it's very harmful to Patsy and I.
    What the hell? How in the world is it perverse to want to keep your daughters murder on the front pages. This would only help you find the killer.

    Let me play armchair psychologist.

    It is obvious that what John is really saying is, "There is a perverse side of me that doesn't want to see it ever go off the front pages because we enjoy it. We like being the center of attention. This is about us and not JonBenet."

    Then he catches himself. Knowing how it will read he adds, "But I don't want people to forget about it. I want to find this person...so I'm helpful even though we're awful tired of people sitting outside our home with binoculars and cameras."

    WOW how big of John. Even though it's tiring to have people take your picture you are a big enough person to cooperate with the police after 4 full months. Although it wasn't total cooperation. Rules. Limits. All kinds of things had to be negotiated first. Before John and Patsy could pull their tired a$$'s out of bed and help find the murderer of their daughter.

    John wants to keep it on the front pages but he doesn't spend 50 bucks to keep JonBenet's website going.

    John wants to keep it on the front pages but no one knows how to give a tip or anything about the reward thanks to John shutting down everything.

    John wants to keep "it" on the front pages but he doesn't want his campaign to focus on "it" while he is shaking hands and kissing babies.

    John Ramsey makes me ill. Don't even get me started on Patsy.
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    I am unaware of anyone who's profited from exploiting the Ramsey murder over a longer period of time, with a greater disregard for the principles of accuracy and fairness, than the production team of Mills and Tracey.They truly do inhabit a different moral universe from real journalists. It's the difference between journalism and propaganda.
    Alan Prendergast,reporter for Westword

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    Do you want to borrow my head-banging pillow?

    At least John is consistent - his words always appear to be in direct conflict with his actions.

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    When did John say this?

    How unusual to use a word such as 'perverse.' Why would he ever use such a word unless he'd been 'accused' of being perverse or even a pervert? He could easily have made that statement without the word, simply saying "there's a side of me... ."

    Perhaps there was a confrontation at some point between he and Patsy. Remember, the dictionary was dogeared to the word "incest" which is behavior considered to be perverse.

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    This was in a police interview. Sorry don't have the book in front of me but I think it was the second interview.
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    I am unaware of anyone who's profited from exploiting the Ramsey murder over a longer period of time, with a greater disregard for the principles of accuracy and fairness, than the production team of Mills and Tracey.They truly do inhabit a different moral universe from real journalists. It's the difference between journalism and propaganda.
    Alan Prendergast,reporter for Westword

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    Default Webster's Dictionary

    2 entries found for perverse.
    To select an entry, click on it.
    perversepolymorphous perverse

    Main Entry: per·verse
    Pronunciation: (")p&r-'v&rs, 'p&r-"
    Function: adjective
    Etymology: Middle English, from Latin perversus, from past participle of pervertere
    1 a : turned away from what is right or good : CORRUPT b : IMPROPER, INCORRECT c : contrary to the evidence or the direction of the judge on a point of law
    2 a : obstinate in opposing what is right, reasonable, or accepted : WRONGHEADED b : arising from or indicative of stubbornness or obstinacy
    3 : marked by peevishness or petulance : CRANKY
    synonym see CONTRARY
    - per·verse·ly adverb
    - per·verse·ness noun
    - per·ver·si·ty /p&r-'v&r-s&-tE, -stE/ n
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    The words people choose to define themselves can be so revealing.....

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    The words people choose to define themselves can be so revealing.....
    Exactly Sprocket!!

    This quote just jumped out at me while I was thumbing through the book.

    To me this speaks volumes as to who John Ramsey really is.
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    I am unaware of anyone who's profited from exploiting the Ramsey murder over a longer period of time, with a greater disregard for the principles of accuracy and fairness, than the production team of Mills and Tracey.They truly do inhabit a different moral universe from real journalists. It's the difference between journalism and propaganda.
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    Tricia,

    It's on Page 315 NE Police Files Paperback. Don't think there is a Hardback (?).
    elle: The RST can't handle the truth!
    Just my opinion.

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    Default Sprocket and Tricia, I totally agree...

    Originally posted by Tricia
    Exactly Sprocket!!

    This quote just jumped out at me while I was thumbing through the book.

    To me this speaks volumes as to who John Ramsey really is.
    I think Maya Angelou has a quote that says something to the effect of "listen to my words and I will tell you who I am" I tried to find the quote. I heard her say this on Oprah one day and thought how true.
    Ring out the thousand wars of old, Ring in the thousand years of peace. Alfred, Lord Tennyson

    "I've learned that you shouldn't go through life with a catcher's mitt on both hands. You need to be able to throw something back."
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    I mean, psychologists study the speech of psychopaths and have found that often their speech is "scrambled" in other words, they will make "condradictory statements" in the same breath.... I'll explain more, and give examples, when I have more time.

    And we all study the speech and manerisms of the people we encounter in our every day life. We get impressions, and instances that "resonalte" with us, on whether or not, the individual who is speaking, is believeable or not.

    impo, John Ramsey is not believeable, in what he tries to present, to the public.

    Thanks for bringing out this little nugget Tricia. It speaks volumes.

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    What is so amazing about JR's statement is that he is telling the world that he is conflicted because they don't like all the attention BUT they want to keep JB on the front page so no one will forget.

    THEN, they state over and over that they "just want to get on" with their lives, THEN he's all over the front pages around the world considering running for a high profile political office that will keep him, not JB, on the front pages for many, many years to come.

    What he is really saying is, they don't want to be the center of NEGATIVE attention, only POSITIVE, and JB can whither into obscurity for all they care. Once again, the narcissistic, hedonistic, it's all about me, Ramsey family image in all it's disgusting glory.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DejaNu
    What he is really saying is, they don't want to be the center of NEGATIVE attention, only POSITIVE, and JB can whither into obscurity for all they care. Once again, the narcissistic, hedonistic, it's all about me, Ramsey family image in all it's disgusting glory.
    I think you nailed it DejaNu!! Excellent!
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