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  1. #49

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    I just know that if a person from a (perceived) dfferent level of the social strata was to have two children die before their times, for WHATEVER reasons, that would put up a red flag for Social Servises anywhere in the US.

    I also wonder if they don't have some sort of penance that they perceive they have to pay (to society?), thus buttering their bread on both sides, i.e., petting the egos and at the same time, making some "sacrifice" while paying their social dues, sort of like how offenders have to do community service as a part of their sentence.
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    Default If John Doesn't Get In ...

    I wonder what the Rams will do for an encore, if John fails in his attempts at political power.

    Might we see them in one of the next reality shows .... I honestly would not put anything past them.

    I thought that, FINALLY, they were prepared to sit quietly in the background, especially when they had spouted over and over that they had been constantly maligned by the media and the public.

    So their only option, if politics fails is a "Surreality Show" - you know it might not be that far-fetched. They do seem to have a penchant for seeking out the spotlight.

    I also wonder what good ole Lyn Wood has up his sleeve, and if he isn't somehow behind John's grab for power, money and status.

    This all has the proverbial stench of trying to pour a lot of perfume on the pig.

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    "Personally, I think lawyers who immerse themselves in themselves are disturbed individuals who need to get a life, and are to be both prayed for and pitied." -quote from The HyperScrubulator, May 25th 2004

    JustChillun, just noticed this. What a hoot!

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    Probably a 'cancer' associated reality type tv show Mandarin. Patsy's a much better speaker than John, and can lie with a straighter face if she'd quit blinking so much.

    No way John and Patsy can stay out of the limelight...it's their drug, their fix. The need for attention is acute....DOI is full of it. I've seen nearly all posters, who thought the Ramsey's innocent, after reading DOI, come to conclusion the Ramsey were involved in the murder.

  5. #53

    Default If John loses the election

    (AND HE WILL)
    Then what? (A question posed by a previous poster)

    He is not dumb. He knows he cannot win. However, his loss will provide fodder, for himself and Patsy, to cling anew, onto the wasteland of sympathy they feed upon. His run, in his mind (I do believe) raises his tarnished image to a veneer of respectability.

    Plus, something else, I do not believe anyone here has touched upon:

    By running for public office, John KNOWS that the media will probably run some scathing articles, and say some scathing, perhaps erroneous things, about him. Bingo! Law suits in the making, with old Woody, chasing close behind; with the ghost of Richard Jewel, and big bucks motivating him, all the way to the bank.

    Am I being facetious? No, indeed! The Rams’ modus operandi has emerged, plain and simple, for all with an eye to see and a mind to reason. We are not dealing with people of great substance here. We are dealing with people who have turned a blind eye to their own guilt. They do not want to remember. It is too painful. They just want all this (and all of us) to go away. In the meantime (to the public at large) “SHUT UP!”

    It is none of our business. "Get a life! Eat cake!"

    Well, Johnny Boy, we will never go away. That is something you can take to the bank. And, as for the likes of Woody, Carnes and Keenan (and there are many others) they are making historical records, of the most unflattering kind; leaving legacies, that their descendants, no doubt, will view with shame. They are joining the ranks of many others, including Hunter, Koby and jams.

    What a read this case will be, when it is finally written! History will, I believe, view our little Forum here, most favorably. That is due, in large part, to the efforts of our wonderful and selfless Moderators. However, the Posters here are the hearts and souls of this daily sleuthing dialogue; knowledgeable, bold, aggressive and sympathetic. We are the bulldogs of justice; biting and clinging onto the legs of murderers and abusers of our littlest citizens; preventing them from walking with assurance, or running for or to anything.

    So, in conclusion: Run John, run. Yes, run to the nearest police station and turn yourself in. Bring along your comrade in arms and your toothbrush. Until then, the jaws of justice will stay firmly clamped around your glossy façade.

    Greenleaf

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    If Ramsey doesn't win, which I sure hope he doesn't, he will probably blame Tricia for his loss and Wood will start foaming at the mouth again.

    Too bad, so sad - Ramsey's now more of a public figure than he's ever been, and he did it all himself.
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    the philosophy which does not laugh,
    and the greatness which does not bow before children.

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    Default Excellent post Greenleaf!

    Thoroughly enjoyed your very wise excellent post, Greenleaf! More, please!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jayelles
    for this, but I think that dabbling in politics might have been part of John's life plan anyway. It's often the next logical step for some successful businessmen. JonBenet's murder changed everything.

    I also think Patsy is made for the role of CEO wife/ politician's wife. She is charming and can talk to people and she loves the attention. These are pretty much the qualities such a woman needs to have. We all have favourite actors/singers/comedians and we love to watch them perform. Yet the other side of that is that these much loved stars just love to perform. They have huge egos and they like to be the centre of attention (most anyway). If they weren't like that, they wouldn't get up there and do it and we wouldn't get to enjoy the performances! So it's one thing to criticise someone for loving the limelight, but these are often the same people who can pull off a performance that gives others pleasure.

    Everyone has their niche. Politics is also an arena which can be a fairly level playing field. Here in Scotland, we have members of the aristocracy running for office alongside aggressive ex-jailbirds. Each appeals to a different set of people. I surmise that John wasn't having a lot of success making his way again in the business world and after 7 years he might have felt that he had little to lose by giving politics a bash. I also think that even if he doesn't get in, Patsy will have had the time of her life with the campaign. Probably John too.

    I do think that the Ramseys could have kept all they had if they'd behaved differently after JonBenet's murder. Devastated parents demanding polygraphs and camping out at the police station to help get the enquiry moving forward would have struck a chord with most people IMO. I think they would have become the darlings of the nation instead of America's most hated couple. I really do.
    PATSY FOR THE ROLE OF THE "CEO"? IMPO;"CEO"'s NEED BE MORE ATTENTATIVE TO THE RULES AND QUIT BEING MANIPULATED BY THE WRONG PEOPLE;IN WHICH CASE BRINGS THEM[CEO]DOWN THE SAME ROAD AS THE LOSERS THAT TRY AND BUCK THE SYSTEM. LOSERS[POWER]TEND TO FOLLOW EVILNESS.WHY I WILL NEVER FIGURE IT OUT?UNTIL THEY[LOSERS] ARE CAUGHT RED HANDED.

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    I thought Greanleaf's post was really great, especially this part:
    Quote Originally Posted by Greenleaf
    By running for public office, John KNOWS that the media will probably run some scathing articles, and say some scathing, perhaps erroneous things, about him. Bingo! Law suits in the making, with old Woody, chasing close behind; with the ghost of Richard Jewel, and big bucks motivating him, all the way to the bank.
    I would just like to add that John and Patsy Ramsey no only attack others to direct attention from their current and long standing status as suspects, they also attack when they know things aren't going well; here we are just a little while until the Aug. 3rd primary.

    They've been out of the news for weeks until a "smear campaign" is devised and poor Jeff Garfield is the victim of their latest attack, I loved Mr. Garfields response to Ramseys revealling of his 30 year old Cocaine charge:

    "Mr. Ramsey should clean up his own backyard before he goes digging in mine."

    What a soldier!!


    Patsy's WAAAAAYYY to much of a feature in John's campaign, it's nice that she's doing a whole lot but really? Who's running? Her constant presence just further proves her desire to be in the spotlight, does Jeff Garfields wife follow him wherever he goes if TV cameras will be present?

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    Default Justin Case,

    Good point. However the family that murders together stays together! What else does Patsy have to do. No more pagents to go to. Ya know that reminds me...wouldn't you think that even in that area of her life Patsy could have done some real good by helping other little girls with those very beauty pagents in memory of JonBenet...or have one named for her or something. But no! it has been all about them.
    "When are we going to get our heads out of the sand and understand that sometimes really nice people who look good on the outside are dastardly on the inside." Wendy Murphy, former prosecutor, MA

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    Default Posts with unusual points of view

    I liked a lot of what Greenleaf had to say. I like coming across posts with different points of view. Especially those "out of the ordinary." Voyager also posted a very unusual post just recently. These posts seem to stand out, for me. They differ from the general over-all view of the case. I enjoy all of the posts here, of course, but now and then I come across a post that makes me think in an entirely different way. This, I like!
    elle: The RST can't handle the truth!
    Just my opinion.

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    Quote Originally Posted by zoomama
    Good point. However the family that murders together stays together! What else does Patsy have to do. No more pagents to go to. Ya know that reminds me...wouldn't you think that even in that area of her life Patsy could have done some real good by helping other little girls with those very beauty pagents in memory of JonBenet...or have one named for her or something. But no! it has been all about them.
    Zoomama,

    I love it!! I just have one minor adjustment to add -
    "the family that slays together stays together!"

    It's strange that Patsy's not displaying her usual 'out-do everyone' attitude about keeping JonBenet's memory alive, and having one named for her definately would be something that Patsy could have had done, she was a huge contributor to the Miss WV pageant so many years after she won the title.

    Even while JonBenet was alive Patsy could have contributed to the other little girls families who were struggling, if she wasn't so competetive she could have really done some good for people who deserve it; instead she belittled any other little girl she saw as competition to JonBenet, including Daphne White.



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