Vanity Fair article?

Can someone fill me in on that one? Are they actually suggesting Wood exposed Steve Thomas as the source?

 

Thanks Tricia, for confirming my observation! I wasn't sure I got it due to the rambling way it was discussed. To be honest I knew it already for sure he was the source behind the article, wasn't exactly a mystery to me. How did I know? Oh, that was so simple, by reading!

I advice those who do believe Wood exposed Steve Thomas as the source, to reread Steve Thomas’s book “JonBenet: Inside the Ramsey Murder Investigation. Only this time more thorough! Because it is there where he stated he was indeed the background source of the article.

Hardcover edition, page 215:
We flew to Virginia by ourselves. In Quantico Sergeant Tom Wickman dealt photocopies of the Vanity Fair article to us like a deck of cards. The room went silent, the only sound the turning of pages and someone whispering, “Jesus H. Christ.†I braced for the storm that was bound to come, but I wasn’t sorry that I had spoken as a background source. The information I gave wasn’t about evidence in a murder investigation but about possible malfeasance in government.â€

The above quote is the reason that I was so astonished to see that ridiculous claim “Wood exposed Steve Thomas as the source.†What’s wrong with these people can’t they read? I know some of who believe or support that nonsense did read his book! I mean I even picked it up immediately and English isn’t even my native language!

I wish that little creep Shapiro opened his mouth about the confidential information about the murder investigation he received from no one else than Hunter. The one who was supposed to support the BDP but instead chose to support possible suspects! I never liked that **shole Shapiro, real creepy one!

I’ll try to read the deposition, only I am having a hell of a time to catch up with everything and keep posting at the same time. LOL. Is it possible you send me the depo by mail? That way I can print it and read it offline! I don’t always have time to read online and sometimes just need to get away from the computer as I do volunteer work for a foundation, at times they bury me under work. (computer work.)

 

We've all known Thomas wasn't the only 'source' although some people think so.

The main leaks I remember back then, came from Team Ramsey thru, Smit, Haddon, PR guy and so on.

The LE who leaked to Vanity Fair, were upset concerning Hunter's unprofessional conduct, his connections with Haddon in a business venture and Hunter's extreme fondness for publicity.

 

I am forever grateful to Steve Thomas for his book. It is only through his book that we, the public, were able to realize WHY this case was stonewalled. The "leaks" that everyone is so eager to discuss, was nothing more than the dirty politics of Boulder and the true power and influence Haddon and his team held.

They hold the same power today as evidenced in the Bryant case.

If not for ST, we might still be scratching our heads as to why LE didn't chase after the Ramseys and why they DID share all their information with the Ramsey lawyers. Ludicrous! Never before in history has the DA, in the spirit of "cooperation" (gag) shared their information with the prime suspects in a murder case.

I have to laugh at those who will criticize ST for "leaks" and then proceed to brag about having "inside" sources, etc.

Aren't those "leaks"? When posters claim to speak to Lou Smit, the BPD, and other secret "sources", and then claim they are not free to share this "confidential" information, I consider it "leaks".

Why is it bad that ST leaked about the inside politics and NOT about evidence, and then to receive "confidential" information and brag that they, ordinary citizens, are privvy to it, and that's okay?

Leaks are leaks and in my opinion, it is far worse to be sharing confidential information with ordinary internet posters who are curious than it is to tell all and blow the whistle (which I believe ST did) on the deep, deep corruption that has forever tainted the case.

 

Candy's an idiot, and so is Lin Wood. I knew long before Steve's deposition that he was a source for the Vanity Fair article, because he said so himself in his book.

I feel the same way as you, Sylvia, ST was a whistle blower on the corruption in Boulder, and I'm damn glad he did it. That corruption is worse now, IMO, than it ever was.

Now that that's cleared up, when is Candy going to go on a rampage against the sealing of Lou Smit's deposition? That's the deposition I want to read, but it's sealed tighter than an Egyptian tomb.

 

Agree on all points!

All they had to do was read........and yes he exposed an extreem corrupt system. Again yes, the same system has become even more corrupted then ever before.

As for the part of Lou Smit's deposition being sealed tighter than an Egyptian tomb, that is most likely because he does have a lot to hide!

 

Sylvia, in the U.S. we have a federal law known as the Whistleblower Act that provides opportunity and protection for those, like Steve Thomas and so many others, to speak up about possible corruption in government and industry without suffering retaliation.

For a more thorough education on this law, go here:
http://www.oag.state.tx.us/AG_Publications/pdfs/whistleblower.pdf

Despite this federal law and the opportunity and protection it is supposed to afford all those who desire honesty and integrity in business, there are many, many cases of great and small retaliation against the majority of people brave enough to blow the whistle on corruption. Some have been killed for doing so while others suffer ruined reputations, financial ruin, etc.

Steve's efforts to bring into the limelight all the incest and corruption that hallmarks the Ramsey case, as well as several others in the state of CO, was a remarkably valiant effort. It cost him dearly to do so.

Lin Wood, Candy, and the entire RST want to make him public enemy no. 1. But only those who get off on victimizing people for self-empowerment would react like that to what Steve and many others do every day. In fact, Candy herself is a whistleblower with a long history of running to LE with her psychotic imaginings of persecution by a host of forum folk. But Candy wants attention and sympathy for her persecution while persecuting Steve Thomas and Fleet White for doing the same thing she does. That kind of double standard is Candy's force majeure. She is the poster child for hypocrisy.

The Ramseys and their attorney for the damned are whistleblowers as well with every libel lawsuit they file. They want millions of dollars for self-indulgent purposes as compensation for their "persecution" while at the same time condemning ST and the Whites for doing the very same thing. More double standards, more bullchit.

Steve Thomas and the Whites are true American heroes deserving of respect. But there will always be sickos like the RST in our society who see things through fog-colored glasses while slandering those heroes for self-aggrandizement. They are bottom feeders of the worst kind that pollute American society.

 

DejaNu, here we also have such a law. Everyone can bring to light a corruption within a governmental system. Actually it is something highly valued here as well. Although at times it doesn't work out so good for the person who does it.

I think Steve Thomas and Fleet White did what the deemed they had to do in order to get justice. I blame them in no way for it, they exposed a corrupt system and to me that is not only legal, but also your duty. That is if you're a person who has a conscious. I also admire Kane's role in everything, he tried extremely hard to do the right thing, but was limited in his freedom to do so.

There are some in this case I do blame, first the Ramsey's, then Hunter, Keenan, Smit, plus the whole Ramsey spin team.

Also I can see no joy in getting innocent people being thrown into jail (Fleet White, Steve Thomas), for me it is important that those responsible for the murder will be locked away for good.

Elle, yes it is going downhill and extreem fast too.....very sad.

 

Sylvia hardly anything goes on at the CS JB forum. It might as well stayed archived...only Candy bumping up occasional threads to say I told you so... which make no sense whatsoever to anyone but Candy.

 

I did some thinking about the CS situation last night. It is a fact that CS was once a vibrant and hopping place. There were the usual amounts of bickering from time to time, but Skydog let everyone have his say. No one got banned for speaking out against unfairness. Dimwit took Skydog to task several times about freedom of speech issues, and, though I didn't always agree with Dimwit's more vulgar posts (and they were vulgar, make no mistake), Skydog didn't censor him or throw him off the forum.

Though Skydog still owns the forum, as far as I know, I don't think he pays for it. He has given over control of the JBR forum to the hat, groo. No one seems to know who "groo" is under any other hat. It's common knowledge that Candy forks over a good deal of the money needed to keep CS going, and it is also common knowledge that Candy receives special treatment there.

CS is no longer the vibrant forum it once was under Skydog's direction. It is now an exclusive club for Candy and her butt kisssers, and that's the truth. Groo practices selective reading and selective banning. NO ONE questions CANDY'S ABUSIVE BEHAVIOR without being warned by groo that they are "pushing Candy's buttons" or "posting off topic." Yet, Candy barfs out post after post attacking posters on other forums and "pushing" their buttons. I got banned from CS for strenuously objecting to the favoritism groo shows Candy. That's the truth. Groo doesn't like the truth, but there it is.

As I pondered all these things last night, I came to the conclusion that Candy is so jealous, so needy, and so vindictive (for whatever reason, who knows?), that she will do anything to draw attention away from those who really are doing something important. Her reasoning is two fold. Take, for instance, Steve Thomas and Fleet White. Candy used to revere both of these men, with very good reason, IMO. They are both men with integrity. But, Candy imagines things. The things she posted would have made anyone believe she was personally acquainted with both these men, but it wasn't true. Candy may have sent letters and made phone calls to them, but her interest wasn't returned. She exaggerates everything, including her relationships with ST and FW. There was no relationship. Period.

Candy is like a woman scorned. They ignored her attempts to ingratiate herself with them; she's out to get even. Somewhere along the way, Candy honed in on the fact that Tricia has an internet site re Steve Thomas. Those beady eyes zeroed in on that website. I can just see her head swiveling around on her shoulders, LOL. It was about this time sweet little Candy posted Tricia's personal information on the forum.

Since that time, Candy has been on a personal vendetta against anyone associated with Tricia. I remember the first time she took a swipe at me at CS. It was a few years ago. I was dumbfounded. I didn't say one thing to her to provoke it, she just tore into me. You see, Candy despises anyone who posts at CS whom she perceives is a threat to her "superior" standing there. I posed no threat to Candy, I was in no competition with her. I was merely posting on case, and she just had a psychotic episode on me. Of course, you know me, I tore right back at her. At that time, she had some backing there in the form of Dimwit, who could be a vicious opponent. After ripping him a new one, too, I left CS for quite a spell because of Candy and Dimwit.

Even then, there were many posters at CS, and, aside from Candy's BS and Dimwit's tirades, it was a fairly decent forum.

Then Skydog left the premises altogether. Groo took over, dimwit and the others no longer post on the JBR forum. Did they get sick of Candy's chit, too? They post on the other forums there. Just about the only ones that remain there are Candy, her loving friend, Imon, and a very few odds and ends who trickle in from time to time. Tricia and RiverRat still post there, but they are continually attacked by Candy and Imon. Imon was a member of FFJ for years until Tricia found out she was posting at Purgatory under the hat, "Rachel," and thoroughly trashing Tricia and FFJ and her posters. Betrayal of that kind won't last here. It's like Imon says, if you don't like it here, go somewhere else. If she disliked it here so much that she had to trash us under a different hat at Purgatory, it was obvious she should live by her own words and leave. She is no longer welcome to post here. We don't like back stabbers.

What I'm getting at, or trying to get at, is that Candy's mission in life is to try to demean everyone who gets in her way of being special. Her actions are specifically aimed at getting attention, especially the attention of anyone she thinks is important, like LE, and she has this illusion that she is superior to others. She craves attention, and like I said, she will do anything she has to do to get that attention. However, if she failed to get that attention, she and Imon would fade away into oblivion at CS, because the only time anyone bothers to post there is mostly to defend themselves against her attacks.

It took me quite a while to neuter jameson and her fools. It just came down to it one day, like, what the hell am I doing reading this whacked out crap? I have become desensitized to jameson's BS and no longer feel the need to read at the swamp. IOW, she no longer interests me - not even in a morbid way. The truth is, the Internet is a wonderful tool, but it is also a haven for every demented human being out there. Anonymity affords the crackpots in our society a cloak over their mental illness for a while, and they can get that attention they so crave. It's when they feel they are losing control, that others are garnering more attention than they because they are smarter, better writers, kinder, more astute, that the psychosis starts coming out.

Through her own actions, Candy is now one of the most despised posters on the JBR forums. That's not exaggeration, it is observation from reading at the other forums. She is rude, arrogant, vicious, unreasonable, cold, and greedy for attention. Her loving friend, Imon, is Candy's bully girl. And, who would have ever thunk it? What a pair.

It's just pouring out of me this morning, isn't it. Well, it had to. It's been building for a while. Long post, but I could write an entire book on Candy, Imon, and grooooooo.

End result - the best way to handle people like Candy is not just to IGNORE her totally but to not even care enough to read her crap. That means she no longer has any effect on our thoughts, actions, soundness of mind. It means her personality defects will not impact our forum or our well being. It means she can sit in her sick little forum and pound that keyboard 24/7, writing her inane and convoluted posts, and nobody will be reading except her and butt-girl Imon and grooooooooooo. It means she will self-destruct out of sheer frustration that no one is paying her any attention anymore, no matter how rude and obnoxious she becomes. It means she really will be the loneliest poster on the JBR forums. Most of all, it means we win by not letting her take us down with her.

And, she did it to herself.

 

No offense meant, but why do you feel you have to defend yourself? After all why bother when they are merely mental ill and evil persons?

I think everyone can see what they really are! It's so obvious in there way of posting.

 

I would think that because of the way those 2 work they would accuse Tricia of not defending herself because what they say is true.

They are absolutely rabid at Tricia.


Personally I do think it has to do with Steve Thomas rejecting Candys offer of help.. yeah right, she wanted to help him in the same way I'd like to help the little <img src="http://216.77.188.54/coDataImages/p/Groups/205/205230/folders/158854/1181367studmuffin.gif" width="150" height="20">

 

He's mine, Freebird. Back off. :curses:

 

I agree, with the fact of her fighting her about her lies against Steve Thomas and Fleet White. I only meant why defent yourself against obvious attack that come out of jealousy and cheer hatred. Here post show that clearly! Sorry but to me she isn't worth that much to me, I have learned my lesson with that one!

Freebird,

I actually know that is a fact! Yeah, but Steve Thomas didn't want to talk to her and that did hurt! Believe me! LOL.