Is Susan Stine up to her old tricks?

Discussion in 'Justice for JonBenet Discussion - Public Forum' started by Tricia, Feb 9, 2006.

  1. Tricia

    Tricia Administrator Staff Member

    I forgot how to spell Susan's last name but I think can still recognize her crap.

    First, my apologies if my assumptions are wrong and the person sending me information was being honest and sincere.

    A few months ago I recieved an email from a person saying she knew JonBenet. She said she could tell me some good stories about her and send me pictures no one had ever seen before.

    My hinky meter goes into the red when I get emails like this. I have been burned too many times to blindly trust something like this.

    She told me a few other things about herself. I don't want to reveal them here in case someone accuses an innocent person of being the one who emailed me.

    She did say she felt the parents were involved and wanted to see something done but that her "mom" would be angry if she knew she was talking to me.

    Right then, when she said the word "mom" I felt like I was being set up.

    I asked her age. She was a minor but she really wanted to pass this info on to me.

    I encouraged her to tell her mother we were e-mailing back and forth. No luck. I finally told her that before she sent me anything else I really needed to talk to her mother since she was a minor.

    This was the last time I heard from her.

    My gut told me that SS or someone from her camp, was setting me up. Taking info from a minor. Accepting pictures from a minor. Dealing with a minor after the "minor" told me she would get in trouble with her mom for talking with me.

    I just felt it was another game and I was being set up to look bad.

    Again, if I am wrong, I do apologize.

    Isn't it sad that we have to assume that the Ramseys and their friends are always trying to mess with us? I guess because the Ramseys and their friends have done so much damage to innocent people.
     
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  2. Barbara

    Barbara FFJ Senior Member

    You have absolutely done the right thing

    No matter how well intentioned this person is, they are self admittedly a minor. All it would take is one slip up of an e mail, especially if this person is not "legit"

    Think about it. You KNOWINGLY correspond with a minor. To your surprise, the minor sends you pornography.

    Now you are corresponding on a whole other level, and this person has an e mail that is telling you that she has "pictures", you agree to correspond and now you are in posession of "pictures" of a whole other nature. Sounds like a really slick plan to get you into a whole lotta trouble. Even if, in the end you are vindicated, look what you will have to go through.

    Sounds hinky. If this person is for real, he/she will do it the right way!

    Call me paranoid, call me a guttah queeen, call me a crack ho, but always better to err on the side of caution, especially if Susan Stine is part of the plan.

    My apologies as well, if this is legit, but if you are reading, you will put Tricia in a very awkward and improper place, so hopefully you will understand
     
  3. Jayelles

    Jayelles Alert Viewer in Scotland

    Is it illegal for a minor to communicate with another minor?
     
  4. Tricia

    Tricia Administrator Staff Member

    Darling Jayelles, are you saying I am just a teenager at heart? Or, I look so young and fresh that I must be 17? haha.

    No, it's not illegal for a minor to communicate with anyone as long as the communication is of an innocent nature.

    But, ethically, I would never knowingly communicate with a minor only because as a mother I would want to know who my child is talking with.

    Barbara, you are so right. I didn't even go that far with my thinking but I see what you are saying.

    This could have turned into something really ugly if it was a scam.
     
  5. Jayelles

    Jayelles Alert Viewer in Scotland

    ROFL!

    Actually.... I had been thinking along much more devious lines!

    Supposing this person wanted to get Tricia into trouble by posing as a child who wanted to disclose something. Tricia takes the bait and the scammer reports her and gets her into trouble (actually I think the scammer would be in trouble for posing as a minor).

    But supposing Tricia got a MINOR to sit at the keyboard and be the person communicating with the scammer - if this person was genuinely a minor - Tricia would have done nothing wrong. But if the person was an adult scammer - then it would be (S)HE who had broken the law.
     
  6. Elle

    Elle Member

    Tricia,

    Quite frankly, I think you should delete all mail which comes from strangers you don't know. You can't trust anyone these days; especially when JonBenét Ramsey's name is involved.
     
  7. koldkase

    koldkase FFJ Senior Member

    Yeah, you did good, Tricia. Either it was a minor who should not be going against her mom's authority, especially in matters involving another adult whom the child does not know except that the mom already disapproves, or...someone's setting you up.

    If it is a young person wanting to share his/her own experiences with JonBenet, I hope he/she finds a way to do so. Perhaps he/she could talk to Mom and find a way the mom would support.

    But my mind also went straight to the same idea Barbara had: a child corresponding secretly and sending pictures to an adult over the internet, not family or friends...smells very suspicious. No minor should EVER be doing that. No way. No how. I hope this isn't a kid, because if it is, he/she is already behaving in a way that could get him/her in REAL trouble on the net.

    Well, it is sad, Tricia, but nobody ever knows who anyone is on the other end of those stranger emails, or even on the forums, for the most part. We ALL learned this the hard way, didn't we?
     
  8. Freebird

    Freebird Active Member

    Well any person that is still a minor now was very young when all this happened and I doubt they actually know much of what went on.

    It's my experience that kids will lie about being older while it's adults that will fake being minors for whatever underhanded reasons they have.
     
  9. Barbara

    Barbara FFJ Senior Member

    KK,

    It's good to know that your mind is in the same "guttah" as mine. When I read Tricia's post, my first thought was Ariana Pugh, Bluefire and the vicious, low life posters/players of the RST who would love nothing better than to put Tricia in a situation of something pornographic or sexual with a "minor". At the very least they would have the ability to say such things ON THE INTERNET USING HER REAL NAME OF COURSE:

    Tricia was "investigated" for child porn
    Tricia was "investigated" for interacting inappropriately with a minor
    ...and the list goes on

    Remember, even when eventually vindicated after a setup/scam, the above statements would be true.

    DON'T LET THAT HAPPEN

    :nono:

    TRUST NOONE that you don't know regarding this case. :nsf:
     
  10. Watching You

    Watching You Superior Bee Admin

    It occurs to me that someone at the swamp recently (allegedly) got an e-mail from someone who went by "I Know" who (allegedly) had specific information about the JBR case. The recipient of the e-mail said she would only pass the information along to jameson.

    If I remember right, jameson later said she didn't think the information was very good or something to that effect. Must have been BORG. :borgsmile

    Could Tricia's mysterious e-mailer be the same person?

    Inquiring minds...
     
  11. Watching You

    Watching You Superior Bee Admin

    I don't think I'd be real concerned that a minor was trying to set Tricia up. If Tricia has no knowledge that she is speaking with a minor, she's done no wrong. If, however, she starts getting e-mails from this person that contain pornographic references - she turns the table and turns the e-mails over to the authorities. Tricia is not responsible for unsolicited e-mails she receives - she is only responsible for the content of the e-mails she sends.

    At any rate, this person could be anyone from a Krebbie groupie to a little head to a Ramsey/Ramsey suckhole. It's good to be suspicious, but I think I'd let whoever it is hang herself. Tricia has openly displayed her phone number and mailing address. Anyone who wants to can get in touch with her other than through e-mail.

    Just don't open any attachments, and document everything.
     
  12. Why_Nut

    Why_Nut FFJ Senior Member

    Tricia, in my opinion, you handled the situation the correct way.

    That said, Koldkase has a point. Genuine minors associated with the case are now old enough to reach out and, rather than let themselves be painted as helpless babies with nothing to say, are taking their internet skills and starting to push themselves into the online world. I know, for example, that a 15-year-old girl said by Patsy to have been JonBenet's best friend in Boulder has a MySpace account. Another girl on MySpace has posted recent pictures of Burke, because she likes to post pictures of herself and her friends and he is one of them. The kids of the case are, indeed, Out There and they know how to use their keyboards.
     
  13. Show Me

    Show Me FFJ Senior Member

    I'm glad you are being cautious. I'd tell the minor, if you hear from he/she again, to contact a relative if they don't want the mom to find out.
     
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