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  1. #349
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    Here is a more recent statement about the control samples: August 17, 2006

    Henry Lee, a crime scene analyst who was part of the "dream team" task force assembled by prosecutors after the JonBenet murder, said DNA evidence will confirm whether Karr’s confession is true. DNA was found inside the girl’s underwear, but investigators were unable to match it to anyone in an FBI database.

    Lee said detectives found DNA evidence in three out of six more pairs of the same brand of underwear at the department store that carried them, leading to possibility that the DNA was not left on the scene.


    http://www.rockymountainnews.com/drm...924105,00.html

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    Thumbs down We don't have "knickers" over here!

    Quote Originally Posted by koldkase
    Here is another section of a phone call made between Tracey and Karr, in which Karr talks about the overly large undies...which he says HE BROUGHT WITH HIM. Oops. Too bad neither Lacy nor Tracey nor Smit nor Ollie nor San Augustin ever bothered to ACTUALLY READ THE ATLANTA INTERVIEW WITH PATSY RAMSEY:
    "Knickers" is not a term a boy from Alabama would have used. Ever. It is an English expression for underpants, period. To me, that proves that Tracey was feeding Karr these terms. If they had been in communication for 4 years, Karr perhaps started using the term that he had heard from Tracey.

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    Quote Originally Posted by koldkase
    Here is another section of a phone call made between Tracey and Karr, in which Karr talks about the overly large undies...which he says HE BROUGHT WITH HIM. Oops. Too bad neither Lacy nor Tracey nor Smit nor Ollie nor San Augustin ever bothered to ACTUALLY READ THE ATLANTA INTERVIEW WITH PATSY RAMSEY:
    Oh good grief. Did NO ONE in the BDA office even READ the case file with Patsy's interview in which she said SHE bought the underwear in New York?!

    This is just beyond the pale. Any first-year student of the Ramsey case KNOWS Patsy stated she bought the underwear. If Lacy doesn't even know THIS much, no wonder she buys the Ramsey/Smit/Tracey intruder crap!

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    Quote Originally Posted by heymom
    "Knickers" is not a term a boy from Alabama would have used. Ever. It is an English expression for underpants, period. To me, that proves that Tracey was feeding Karr these terms. If they had been in communication for 4 years, Karr perhaps started using the term that he had heard from Tracey.

    Heymom
    Absolutely right, Heymom! It's obvious Tracey was asking leading questions of Karr, and Karr was beginning to use Tracey's Brit vocabulary to answer them.

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    bumping this up.

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    Well...just to be totally fair...Karr did live overseas for four years...some in Paris, some in countries that might have Brits there saying "knickers." I do agree that Tracey probably did use this word when discussing these topics with Karr, though. How can anyone say that we know exactly what Tracey's influence on Karr was when Lacy failed to include Tracey's emails in total with Karr's? No doubt, she's protecting Tracey's privacy as an informant, since I'd bet money he wrote plenty just as disgusting as Karr, to loosen Karr up and get him to say such things as well.

    In court, Karr's defense could easily have used entrapment by Tracey. We won't ever know now, will we? Another reason Lacy might have tanked the case prior to the court hearings Monday, before that got out, as well.

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    Apparently another thing it can buy is an apology for even being suspected of a crime you probably already would have been convicted of committing if you happened to be poor.'"
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    Well...on the upside...I was very impressed with Lacy's grammar and diction. Her sentence structure was to die for....

    "University of Colorado Law Professor Paul Campos declared the letter a 'reckless exoneration.' He went on to state, 'Everyone knows that relative immunity from criminal conviction is something money can buy.
    Apparently another thing it can buy is an apology for even being suspected of a crime you probably already would have been convicted of committing if you happened to be poor.'"
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    It was a spectacular piece of buffoonery. Of that there is no doubt.

    John Mark Karr was not released because his DNA didn't match. Mary Lacy has told us that this might NOT be a DNA case - that the DNA might be an artefact.

    John Mark Karr was released because he had no fewer than 5 alibis who claimed he was with them in Atlanta. Mary Lacy did add that, but I noticed that she kind of threw that in "by the way". IMO, if he hadn't had the alibis, he would have been charged.

    Mary Lacy is very pro-Ramsey. She attended Patsy's funeral. She should therefore NOT be in charge of this investigation because she obviously has a conflict of interests.

    The Ramseys have NOT been cleared of involvement in JonBenet's murder. Mary Lacy cannot clear them because ... the DNA might not be the killer's.
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