Case Dismissed-Karr Walks!

Discussion in 'Justice for JonBenet Discussion - Public Forum' started by Deja Nu, Oct 5, 2006.

  1. Deja Nu

    Deja Nu Banned

    Ok, just caught the news. The Sonoma County judge dismissed all the 2001 misdeameanor charges against Karr and he left the jail a free man. Don't know the basis for dismissal, but will research and post on this thread when learned.

    In the meantime, the only remaining issue is where that Thai computer is. It was last verified that it was in the possession of friggin' Mary Lacy when Karr was in the Los Angeles court for his extradition to Boulder hearing. That Thai computer was in Karr's possession for 5 years prior to his "capture" in connection with the Ramsey case and if there is any porn on it, the FBI could very well bring federal felony charges against him in the near future. I have to ask, could all this "lost" business be just disinformation being put out there to keep Karr from leaving the country again?
     
  2. Elle

    Elle Member

    This is absolutely sickening news, Deja. I am stunned!
     
  3. BluesStrat

    BluesStrat BANNED !!!!!

    Superior Court Judge Rene Chouteau dismissed the case and freed Karr, 41, without restrictions. He was released from the Sonoma County jail in Santa Rosa about 4 p.m.

    Prosecutors had been pursuing the case in hopes of a conviction that would require Karr, a school teacher when he was arrested on the charges in 2001, to register as a sex offender in California.

    "I don't think this case should have ever been brought, based in the evidence," said Karr's attorney Robert Amparan. "I feel tired, relieved, happy for my client and for justice."

    Amparan had flooded the court in recent days with motions questioning computer evidence and challenging prosecutors to show that it was credible and substantial enough to try Karr. Judges had rejected to earlier motions to dismiss the case.

    Today's development came after prosecutors said they could not prove that Karr had used a computer allegedly containing the sexually explicit images within a year before it was seized from his Petaluma home.
     
  4. Show Me

    Show Me FFJ Senior Member

    If the law had to set Karr free, I sure hope his family gets him some major help!

    What if the evidence shows up years later? Is the case still dismissed for good?
     
  5. BluesStrat

    BluesStrat BANNED !!!!!

    Not likely. "prosecutors said they could not prove that Karr had used a computer...within a year before it was seized" - That pretty much says it all.
     
  6. koldkase

    koldkase FFJ Senior Member

    Well, I'm going to have to go with Jeffry on Greta's show; ARREST FOLEY! And if talking about sexually abusing children is illegal, then ARREST MICHAEL TRACEY, because he was right there, encouraging Karr and participating. FOUR YEARS, people.

    As for Karr, I have yet to see any evidence he abused any child, unless you count his 13 and 16 year old brides. Maybe we should arrest the lawmakers who made THAT legal.

    I'm so angry about that press conference held by Hastert today. If our HIGHEST CONGRESSIONAL LEADERS are so careless and blase about a sicko like FOLEY being in Congress and preying on the UNDERAGE TEENAGE MALES he obviously has FOR YEARS, then how can we point fingers at JOHN KARR?

    It's all just so disgusting, I'd like to smack all of them.

    This all started with Tracey's DETERMINATION to find AN INTRUDER, EVEN ONE WHO WAS LYING AND CONNIVING WITH TRACEY to become the most WELL KNOWN false confessor in the Ramsey case to date.

    But notice Lacy's latest budget request. This ain't over, as we can now see that LACY DIDN'T LEARN ONE DAMN THING. Neither did TRACEY. Nor any of the rest of the RST.
     
  7. LurkerXIV

    LurkerXIV Moderator

    Oh, my!

    Hold your babies close.
     
  8. Deja Nu

    Deja Nu Banned

    Well said, Lurker. This is a far more appropriate point to say it than when JB was killed.

    KK, while I echo your sentiments and frustrations, Karr doesn't have to lay a finger on any child to get arrested and prosecuted. While sexual assault of a minor is indeed a crime, so is possession of child pornography, which is what the 2001 misdemeanor charges were all about. Possession, not molestation. And Foley is guilty of neither at this early stage of the investigation. While he clearly was grooming potential victims, the law clearly states that he has to either have sexual contact with them or actively engage in conduct to solicit their participation in sexual activity, like buying them a bus ticket, trying to set up rendez-vous, that sort of thing. From what I've seen thus far of Foley's emails, while sexually suggestive, they stopped just short of the law. And who would know better where that fine point would be than the congessional committee person on internet pedophilia. Disgusting. Hopefully the investigation will turn up stronger evidence, cuz Foley, like Karr, is clearly in dire need of some serious therapy. Betty Ford ain't gonna cut it!
     
  9. Amber

    Amber Member

    I found this interesting article that proposes possible link between Karr and the Foley case. Thought you might find it interesting.

    http://www.rense.com/general73/page.htm

    In addition, WMR has learned of possible connections between GOP lawmakers and former school teacher John Mark Karr, who was arrested in Thailand and deported to the United States after he claimed, falsely, that he killed six-year old Jon Benet Ramsey at her Boulder, Colorado home in 1996. After Boulder prosecutors declined to prosecute Karr for JonBenet's death, he was transferred to Sonoma County, California to face misdemeanor child pornography charges. However, U.S. intelligence source report to WMR that the high degree of interest shown by U.S. Department of Homeland Security (DHS) and U.S. intelligence officials in Karr -- including having one CIA officer in Bangkok intercede, along with DHS Bangkok attache Ann Hurst, with Thai law enforcement authorities after Karr's arrest -- was due to Karr's knowledge of the involvement of top U.S. government officials in a major pedophilia ring.
     
  10. Amber

    Amber Member

    The above information might explain why they were so adamant about prosecuting him even though the evidence was missing. If there's even a grain of truth in the allegations then I expect Karr to be 'executed' by an outraged citizen, like Lee Harvey Oswald was by Jack Ruby.
     
  11. Sabrina

    Sabrina Member

    Maybe Karr will be able to find a publisher for his book now.
     
  12. YumYum012

    YumYum012 Member

    The Assistant DA, Joan Risse claims that the case was doomed when software analysts (FBI?) could not determine when or even IF the images were accessed by Karr. As I mentioned on the another thread, I would like to know whether or not the FBI confirmed that the images actually were even child porn images. That issue seems to have been dropped into the Black Hole of the Sonoma Justice System.

    Consider (this includes DejaNu) ... what IF the images were NOT of underaged girls or boys?

    Please ponder that.

    All that we KNEW about this case prior to the last few weeks was what Tracey, Lacy, and Sonoma prosecutors (and INCOMPETENT Media) WANTED us to know/think . At virtually EVERY key point along the way, ALL of the above have DELIBERATELY distorted the true story. Ponder THAT!

    While some of Karr's own worlds paint him as a delusional, sick person, we still have ONLY the segments that LE and Tracey/Ramsey/et al WANT us to have. They have PROVEN to be both untrustworty and incompetent ... so how can we blindly accept their judgements in this case.

    I'll wait to hear the OTHER side of the story, thank you very much.


    ...YumYum
     
  13. BobC

    BobC Poster of the EON - Fabulous Inimitable Transcript

    well at least he got a free ride back to America.
     
  14. heymom

    heymom Member

    Yeah, but he wanted to be a girlie just like his dear Mama! (apologies to Monty Python)

    Heymom
     
  15. BobC

    BobC Poster of the EON - Fabulous Inimitable Transcript

    I think he's just an attention whore.
     
  16. heymom

    heymom Member

    Yeah, I think so too. Tracey was giving him all the attention he needed for 4 years and then things ramped up. I guess we can expect at least a book, maybe a movie, if any producer will touch it.

    Heymom
     
  17. BobC

    BobC Poster of the EON - Fabulous Inimitable Transcript

    I'm pretty sure nobody's gonna be tripping over themselves to buy the rights to this crackpot story. The whole thing ended with a dull thud, needless to say. Karr is just a garden variety attention whore, like a certain crabgrass reporter. I don't even think he's a pedophile--I think he has some identity confusion issues and that's about it. I don't even think he's a drag queen--he's flailing around trying to find an identity to latch onto, which is sad seeing that he's in his forties.
     
  18. JustChillun

    JustChillun Member

    ...but he's not a lumberjack. The words of the song strictly do NOT say,

    "I'm psychotic and I'm okay,
    In my own world both night and day"...
     
  19. Elle

    Elle Member

    I can't add a single word to this, Bob. It's all true!

    Actually, I would like to add something. Karr is attracted to very young girls, but this in itself wouldn't make him a pedophile, would it? So far, there has been no evidence of this. He is full of talk, though, and is a very sick man.
     
  20. Tril

    Tril Member

    Early on in the Karr debacle, a teenage girl on CNN described how, when he was a teacher, he fondled little girls in her class. She said (paraphrased) "He would rub some of the little girls all over. He just kept rubbin' and rubbin' them."

    Karr sure sounds like a pedophile to me.
     
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