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    Minneapolis, Minnesota. Why Nut posted this and I did see that in a post there today.

    Also found there a JustWatching poster from Hickory that I am learning about Pasta Jay's stabbing from.
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    [QUOTE=wombat]
    Lin did not start this suit without a lot of legal research and a couple of chats with publicists.
    I couldn't agree more wombat. That's why I think there's more to this than meets the eye; we've yet to find out


    There are twin goals here: Shut down the forums for the benefit of the surviving Ramseys, and create a new tort of "internet defamation" that Lin can create a practice around.
    I don't think this has anything to do with the Ramseys. He doesn't do morals and ethics; he's Lin Wood , no loyalty, "I"ve made more money ............." to Darnay Hoffman Wood. Lin Wood doesn't do "righteous"

    I think it is your latter theory as even he wouldn't be stupid enough to take on law, and the Constitution, and ethical issues. He's sharpening his claws, testing the waters for a whole new avenue of "prey" who would rather settle than be dragged through.............
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    Look, anyone can sue anyone for anything. I'm sure Wood has plans. I imagine that somewhere in the background, like someone speculated, John Ramsey is connected, perhaps using Westmoreland as his good old buddy to do an end runaround to SUE yet ONE MORE TIME to keep the TRUTH about the murder of JonBenet from being DISCUSSED by anyone other than RST.

    You see, if Burke sues, then he has to deal with public disclosures, not to mention, DEPOSITIONS. Same with John. It's back to MORE PUBLICITY, and if they want to keep themselves out of the public eye now that Patsy is dead and Tracey might have a chance at being shut up, then they don't want to be in YET ANOTHER law suit, do they? Well, that's what jams said, that John wants to live quietly now. heh

    So by pulling out WESTMORELAND, maybe they think they can get around the sticky WHO MURDERED JONBENET issue.

    Well, maybe undertheradar...heh, ironic hat now, isn't it...has bucks and can get himself a good defense team and we'll see what shakes out.

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    Apparently another thing it can buy is an apology for even being suspected of a crime you probably already would have been convicted of committing if you happened to be poor.'"
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    Quote Originally Posted by Why_Nut
    The automatic location detector of Topix picked up that undr was posting from Minneapolis, Minnesota when not using AOL, so that would sure narrow down the geographic location sought. On the other hand, Rod is going to have an extremely tough row to hoe when trying to prove that he felt physically threatened by a person who, in fact, never had to leave Minnesota to know he had a pool.
    That thing shows the Butts poster bitchy posting out of Syracuse, NY. And she is in Cass County, Texas.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JC
    That thing shows the Butts poster bitchy posting out of Syracuse, NY. And she is in Cass County, Texas.
    Fair enough. If it cannot be determined to be accurate, then that really puts the hurt on anyone's ability to track down undrtheradar.

    Good luck to Lin in his quest to sue an internet phantom. Rod gets to spend a lot of money, Lin gets another horse, the many organizations devoted to ensuring freedom of speech continue to do their good work in protecting forums from freedom-of-speech attacks, and the anonymizer sites get more business.

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    Quote Originally Posted by koldkase
    Look, anyone can sue anyone for anything. I'm sure Wood has plans. I imagine that somewhere in the background, like someone speculated, John Ramsey is connected, perhaps using Westmoreland as his good old buddy to do an end runaround to SUE yet ONE MORE TIME to keep the TRUTH about the murder of JonBenet from being DISCUSSED by anyone other than RST.

    You see, if Burke sues, then he has to deal with public disclosures, not to mention, DEPOSITIONS. Same with John. It's back to MORE PUBLICITY, and if they want to keep themselves out of the public eye now that Patsy is dead and Tracey might have a chance at being shut up, then they don't want to be in YET ANOTHER law suit, do they? Well, that's what jams said, that John wants to live quietly now. heh

    So by pulling out WESTMORELAND, maybe they think they can get around the sticky WHO MURDERED JONBENET issue.

    Well, maybe undertheradar...heh, ironic hat now, isn't it...has bucks and can get himself a good defense team and we'll see what shakes out.
    Good point, BUT that could also be a double edged sword. If they start suing on behalf of all the peripheral, NON Ramsey people, the discussions would certainly scare people into discussing ONLY the Ramseys

    AND that would also work for the peripheral, NON Ramsey suspects that the RST throw under the bus

    Who is left to discuss? The Ramseys!

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    SHE WOULDN'T DO THAT FOR AN INTRUDER.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Barbara
    I think it is your latter theory as even he wouldn't be stupid enough to take on law, and the Constitution, and ethical issues. He's sharpening his claws, testing the waters for a whole new avenue of "prey" who would rather settle than be dragged through.............
    I don't know about that, Barbara. I think Wood has stated, with John Ramsey as his mouthpiece this time, that he wants to change the way we get our news. In other words...THEY WANT TO CONTROL THE PRESS AND FREE SPEECH.

    See, you have to remember that Lin Wood probably went through a lot of soul-searing gossip about his family at a tender age, if you remember his history with his parents and his mother's murder by his father. Wood IS on a mission. In his subconscious, I imagine, he's striking back at everyone who talked about his family's troubles. I actually feel kind of sorry for him, as we all know how cruel teens can be, and how defenseless a child in that position is. I think we're all shaped by our tragedies. I think Wood's must have isolated him quite a bit. It must have been hard on him and his sister.

    Having said that, he's the bully now, isn't he?

    Well, the internet is new territory, and if our justice system isn't strong enough to protect free speech over THIS, guess it's time to find out. That law suit DejaNu was so upset about wasn't really a test case because the defendant didn't bother to even respond, much less bring on a defense. You ignore a lawsuit, you lose by default. Period.

    If our higher courts decide not to allow the free exchange of information on the internet, including OPINIONS, that will necessarily start down the slippery slope to censorship that the Supreme Ct. has been loathe to begin. Then we'll reach state mandated "propaganda only allowed," and next, we're in a full assault on the U.S. Constitution. I truly hope we don't go there. If we do, George Orwell will become a prophet, not a writer of science fiction.

    You see, what Wood must PROVE to win such a suit is this: THAT UNDERTHERADAR KNEW WHAT HE WROTE WAS FALSE, THAT HE WROTE IT ANYWAY, AND HE DID SO WITH MALICIOUS INTENT TO HARM WESTMORELAND.

    That's a general recap I believe of the standard definition of LIBEL and SLANDER.

    You see, it's not ILLEGAL to say something that is WRONG. Nobody can be held to the standard of NEVER saying ANYTHING but what they can PROVE in a court of law. That would mean about nobody would never say nothing. Who goes around thinking, I believe this, I deduce this using common sense and rational, but can I PROVE IT IN COURT? Has Lin Wood advised TRACEY or SMIT that the many people THEY POINT THE FINGER OF SUSPICION AT ON NATIONAL AND INTERNATIONAL AIRWAVES should sue them because THEY HAVEN'T PROVEN WHAT THEY SAY IN COURT AND CANNOT? I don't think so. Has he cautioned jams and her members that THEY DAILY ACCUSE INNOCENT PEOPLE OF CHILD MURDER and therefore WILL BE SUED? No. Of course not.

    That's because Wood is a LAWYER. If there was no money at the end of the lawsuit rainbow, he wouldn't look twice at the litigation. He'd go back to chasing ambulances. He knows full well that only so many things can happen, and here are a few I can think of: his client can win money, and his reputation can be effected any number of ways, regardless; his client can lose more than money, but it won't hurt Wood either way, unless Wood is doing this pro bono...and I don't think so; or Wood might be able to make case law; Wood might get to argue before the US Supreme Court; Wood might win or lose, but as a lawyer, he's only going to win--publicity to die for, huge bills for his client, and more oats for his horse than the stud can ever eat.

    But if it were to happen that Wood files suit on behalf of Westmoreland, and that they are able to shut down opinion and discussion on the internet forums, then it will be ALL of them, not just WS, Topix, and FFJ. The swamp will be included in the fallout. Court TV will be history, as well as LKLive, various talk shows, all the true crime tv shows...Tracey can kiss his gravy train goodbye. Freedom of speech and expression will be a memory we'll all cherish...while we're planning the next revolution....

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    Apparently another thing it can buy is an apology for even being suspected of a crime you probably already would have been convicted of committing if you happened to be poor.'"
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    Quote Originally Posted by Barbara
    Good point, BUT that could also be a double edged sword. If they start suing on behalf of all the peripheral, NON Ramsey people, the discussions would certainly scare people into discussing ONLY the Ramseys

    AND that would also work for the peripheral, NON Ramsey suspects that the RST throw under the bus

    Who is left to discuss? The Ramseys!

    Risky
    Why, that's a very good point. And if it comes to this, I guess forums are going to have to post at the top of their pages, ONLY RAMSEYS CAN BE DISCUSSED AS SUSPECTS IN THE JONBENET MURDER--compliments of LIN WOOD AND ROBERT WESTMORELAND.

    Well, aren't you the clevah crack ho, Barbara! May your pimp always be kind!

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    Apparently another thing it can buy is an apology for even being suspected of a crime you probably already would have been convicted of committing if you happened to be poor.'"
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    Is Mame flaunting her idiocy again?

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    Quote Originally Posted by RiverRat
    On May 11, 2006
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    If you look at the [ransom] note you can tell it was written by a banker.


    Some village is missing their idiot. :balloon:

    Yeah, my banker always misspells words like "business" and threatens to behead people, too. Once or twice he's even yelled out "Victory!" when I made a deposit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BobC
    Is Mame flaunting her idiocy again?

    She's CELEBRATING IT. She actually said at the swamp that she doesn't know some of what Nancy Krebs claimed nor her history, BECAUSE SHE DOESN'T WANT TO KNOW. I am NOT making this up!!

    "University of Colorado Law Professor Paul Campos declared the letter a 'reckless exoneration.' He went on to state, 'Everyone knows that relative immunity from criminal conviction is something money can buy.
    Apparently another thing it can buy is an apology for even being suspected of a crime you probably already would have been convicted of committing if you happened to be poor.'"
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    Awesome. Maimed keeps giving and giving until there's nothing left to give.



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