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    Oh, my. By the name of all that is holy, this was the single most useless of all the useless case documentaries ever made. I have seen it now (literally, with the sound off), and it feels as if fully two-thirds of this thing consist of the following images:

    Michael Tracey frowning at his laptop.
    Tracey raising his eyebrows at his laptop.
    Close-ups of his finger stroking the trackpad on his laptop.
    Close-ups of his typing on the keyboard of his laptop.
    Close-ups of the laptop's screen displaying Karr e-mails, and apparently Tracey is half-blind, because all of the e-mails have the font set so that every word of every e-mail is THIS BIG.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Why_Nut
    Oh, my. By the name of all that is holy, this was the single most useless of all the useless case documentaries ever made. I have seen it now (literally, with the sound off), and it feels as if fully two-thirds of this thing consist of the following images:

    Michael Tracey frowning at his laptop.
    Tracey raising his eyebrows at his laptop.Close-ups of his finger stroking the trackpad on his laptop.
    Close-ups of his typing on the keyboard of his laptop.
    Close-ups of the laptop's screen displaying Karr e-mails, and apparently Tracey is half-blind, because all of the e-mails have the font set so that every word of every e-mail is THIS BIG.
    Come on WN, be specific..... Tracey simultanteously raising his eyebrows, tilting his head and nodding at the laptop ..... It's a little movement that he repeats several times. I don't know whether it's one shot that was used several times or whether it's "something he does".

    COuld you capture it for us?
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    Could you both when you are watching the programme l;ook out for a bit which fits this description:-

    What struck me was the footage of Patsy and John, I believe around 2003. Patsy was sat supposedly reading a book, but the look of distain upon her face as she glanced up at John sat opposite did not look like an error of camera angle IMO.
    (This was posted at WS by a UK member).

    I simply cannot find this. Another member at WS has stated that he/she also noticed Patsy looking up at John from her book. In the only clip I can find where Patsy is reading a book, she definitely does not look up and to all intents and purposes appears to be engrossed in the book.

    I'm beginning to think I'm going mad! I've watched the documentary three times and even watched it on slow frame and I cannot find this clip.

    There is a clip where the two of them are talking to each other in what appears to be someone's kitchen but they are both standing. There is one clip where Patsy appears to be sitting in a garden (or a park) pensively staring into the distance and it blends to John being interviewed on his own after her death. If they were superimposed, it might appear as though Patsy was looking at John.

    For the sake of my sanity - could you both look for any clip which fits the above description?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jayelles
    For the sake of my sanity - could you both look for any clip which fits the above description?
    I might know where to zoom in and look. It sounds a bit like something from one of the older 48 Hours programs, perhaps circa 2002 or around that time. I know that some of those CBS programs liked to use footage of John and Patsy in their Vinings home, and my brain's index points are flagging clips that might fit. I will go and look.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Why_Nut
    Oh, my. By the name of all that is holy, this was the single most useless of all the useless case documentaries ever made. I have seen it now (literally, with the sound off), and it feels as if fully two-thirds of this thing consist of the following images:

    Michael Tracey frowning at his laptop.
    Tracey raising his eyebrows at his laptop.
    Close-ups of his finger stroking the trackpad on his laptop.
    Close-ups of his typing on the keyboard of his laptop.
    Close-ups of the laptop's screen displaying Karr e-mails, and apparently Tracey is half-blind, because all of the e-mails have the font set so that every word of every e-mail is THIS BIG.
    First let me say THANK YOU JAYELLES !!

    OMG !! Let me say that again, OMG !! Instead of the Howdy Doody Show, it's the Michael Tracey show !! Geeze, I could have taken any one of my 15 or 20 videos of Ramsey media shows and news coverage of Karr and made up this Crock 4.

    Notice that they make it look as though Tracey was doing all his e-mailing from his laptop in his mountain home. I guess they don't want the UK to know Tracey was doing all of this during working hours on Colorado University's dime.

    I'm in the middle of converting it from the dvr-ms file to an .avi file right now and that looks like that's going to take about 2 hours or so. I can't wait to get some screen shots. :-P

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    Quote Originally Posted by ACandyRose

    I'm in the middle of converting it from the dvr-ms file to an .avi file right now and that looks like that's going to take about 2 hours or so. I can't wait to get some screen shots. :-P

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    I look forward to seeing what you put up for us, ACR. Like a root canal. I enjoy torturing myself.

    By the way, did anyone get to tape the JR interview with Walters last night? Because there was a picture of JonBenet flashed on the screen for about 2 seconds and I had never seen that picture before. She had on something black, like a black boa or black costume, dress...something. It went by so fast, I can't remember, just thought I'd like to see the picture when I could actually look at it.

    "University of Colorado Law Professor Paul Campos declared the letter a 'reckless exoneration.' He went on to state, 'Everyone knows that relative immunity from criminal conviction is something money can buy.
    Apparently another thing it can buy is an apology for even being suspected of a crime you probably already would have been convicted of committing if you happened to be poor.'"
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    Quote Originally Posted by koldkase
    I look forward to seeing what you put up for us, ACR. Like a root canal. I enjoy torturing myself.

    By the way, did anyone get to tape the JR interview with Walters last night? Because there was a picture of JonBenet flashed on the screen for about 2 seconds and I had never seen that picture before. She had on something black, like a black boa or black costume, dress...something. It went by so fast, I can't remember, just thought I'd like to see the picture when I could actually look at it.
    This one, and you are right, it is unfamiliar.



    Edited to add: I wonder if this photo was flopped horizontally? JonBenet, when she did not use discipline to keep her lip straight, would smile in a way that made her lower lip dip further on her left side than on her right. It is a physical trait that can even be seen with Patsy on some of her own childhood pictures. Yet this photo makes it look like the dip is on on JonBenet's right.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ACandyRose
    First let me say THANK YOU JAYELLES !!

    OMG !! Let me say that again, OMG !! Instead of the Howdy Doody Show, it's the Michael Tracey show !! Geeze, I could have taken any one of my 15 or 20 videos of Ramsey media shows and news coverage of Karr and made up this Crock 4.

    Notice that they make it look as though Tracey was doing all his e-mailing from his laptop in his mountain home. I guess they don't want the UK to know Tracey was doing all of this during working hours on Colorado University's dime.

    I'm in the middle of converting it from the dvr-ms file to an .avi file right now and that looks like that's going to take about 2 hours or so. I can't wait to get some screen shots. :-P

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    Is there video for the rest of us to watch? I didn't see a link or anything. The article in the Guardian was simply sickening. But I did discover that the naked mole-rat is originally from Manchester. I knew he had a northern accent but wasn't sure if it was York or Manchester or Liverpool.
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    When my daughter was at primary school, there were two little sisters there at the same time who had almost white blonde hair and dark eyebrows. They were incredibly pretty girls - very striking appearance. I think Mum was Scandanavian - she was drop dead gorgeous. Dad was a college professor and the ugliest bloke you ever did see. Now I kind of like "ugly", but I used to marvel at the contrast between this couple.

    In the above photo, JonBenet's hair looks bleached and I think her eyebrows have had some pencil work done. We apply this kind of make-up to kids when they are appearing in the school play, but it looks very unnatural otherwise.
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    Quote Originally Posted by heymom
    Is there video for the rest of us to watch? I didn't see a link or anything. The article in the Guardian was simply sickening. But I did discover that the naked mole-rat is originally from Manchester. I knew he had a northern accent but wasn't sure if it was York or Manchester or Liverpool.
    He's from Oldham. Certainly he sounds American to me, but just occasionally there's a hint of an English accent comes through and when I first heard him speak, I thought he sounded a bit Derbyshire - I have relatives in Derby so it's an accent I'm familiar with. He definitely doesn't sound Mancunian.

    Not that any of this matter. A rose is still a rose, no matter where it grows.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jayelles
    In the above photo, JonBenet's hair looks bleached and I think her eyebrows have had some pencil work done. We apply this kind of make-up to kids when they are appearing in the school play, but it looks very unnatural otherwise.
    I would bet this was a pageant portfolio photo, since JonBenet is seen wearing earrings, which never appear on her in candid photos but pretty much always do when she was being photographed for profit.

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    Thanks, Why Nut! You are incredible. I am not worthy!

    It is a beautiful picture. Yet I have a little voice in my head that says, "She's only six years old."

    I understand using makeup on kids onstage in plays or pageants, but too much is too much. The point of makeup in a play is to portray a character and to delineate facial features so that a person doesn't looked washed out by the strong stage lighting. In a beauty pageant for young women, like the Miss America pageant or the state pageants, they are onstage with the same intense lights. Their makeup is extreme because the situation calls for it: it's stage production, plus "beauty."

    But children...no, I cannot see spray painting a child's face and body for a "tan," putting on enough makeup for a full grown woman in an adult pageant, dying and teasing hair and spraying it, with extensions, which are painful to take out, as watching any of the programs on children IN these pageants illustrates when they wince and express the pain...etc., etc.

    If JonBenet wasn't a wake-up call for parents who do these, then I guess we have to pray that their children are luckier than JonBenet--"a pedophile's dream," to quote Smit, who got that right, at least. Too bad he won't go the distance to figure out WHICH PEDOPHILE was dreaming about JonBenet...and that would be the one WHO HAD ACCESS TO HER AND MOLESTED HER BEFORE THAT NIGHT, IMO.

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    Apparently another thing it can buy is an apology for even being suspected of a crime you probably already would have been convicted of committing if you happened to be poor.'"
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