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    Hey, I just wanted your fine work to date labeled so it would be readily available for future reference and citation. At least I didn't assign it a Dewey Decimal number.
    Yes you did, you have it listed both under sci fi and fiction.

    Thanks you da bomb!!
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    Thanks, RR.

    (I tend to want to barf, however.)
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    If they don't know the other side, they're negligent. If they do, they're irresponsible.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Punisher
    If they don't know the other side, they're negligent. If they do, they're irresponsible.
    D. All of the above

    "University of Colorado Law Professor Paul Campos declared the letter a 'reckless exoneration.' He went on to state, 'Everyone knows that relative immunity from criminal conviction is something money can buy.
    Apparently another thing it can buy is an apology for even being suspected of a crime you probably already would have been convicted of committing if you happened to be poor.'"
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    RiverRat,
    THANKS!

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    "He referred to Patsy’s mother’s nickname: Neddie. And that was unusual that someone would know that. I went to a book that we’d written about it. To see if we ever mentioned that in the book. And we had not," Ramsey recalls. "That added fuel to the fire in my mind."

    Yeah....who'd ever thunk Nedra was nicknamed Neddie.

    Geez....I was thinking Nedster, Nedette, Ne....how Karr came up with the complex name of Neddie? lol

    Demuth says the path of an intruder is evident in crime scene photographs: a grate that appeared to be lifted, an open basement window, scuff marks on the wall. During his investigation of the crime, Demuth also put the Ramseys character under the microscope.

    Oh yeah the window John Ramsey closed that morning without telling the cops the window was open...you know when John was looking for CLUES.

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    Default They ommitted what John said!

    When Secret Squirrel asks JR and PR "Did you have anything to do with the death of JonBenet?" here is what the transcript says:

    Asked by Tracey whether they had anything to do with their daughter's death, Patsy Ramsey said, "How do you say no any more clearly than no?"

    But in the video, you can see the mask JR wears slipping, as he is totally speechless for a long second, looks into the distance, and then before he can say anything, Patsy shakes her head and softly, tragically, says, "No." Then John says, "That's the most difficult question I've ever been asked, and I've been asked that before. (He is shaking his head as he says this, as if to tell us that he has NOT been asked that question.) Uh...I would have given my life for JonBenet and I regret, and I will regret for the rest of my life, that I wasn't able to that night. No, to answer the question, no, we did not." Then Patsy says, "How do you say 'no' any more clearly than 'no?'"

    Please watch the second clip that Why Nut posted, and watch as JR just freezes for that long moment. For some reason, on that day, his story just didn't pop into his head, and you can see they didn't have their act quite so polished. When hubby saw this clip he was absolutely gobsmacked - this does not make them seem innocent, but guilty! And yet, there it was, buried in the Slimey Limey's crockumentary, that was supposed to paint the Ramseys as completely innocent. Even when they think they are helping their own case, they do more harm.
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    And How Do You Say No Any More Clearly Than No, Patsy???

    You go and talk to law enforcement and you take polygraphs and you cooperate fully and you go to the ends of the earth to find your baby's killer. But that assumes you ARE innocent. You can't say NO unless you haven't done it, Patsy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by heymom
    And How Do You Say No Any More Clearly Than No, Patsy???

    You go and talk to law enforcement and you take polygraphs and you cooperate fully and you go to the ends of the earth to find your baby's killer. But that assumes you ARE innocent. You can't say NO unless you haven't done it, Patsy.
    You know, I was thinking about this last night, and it really is beyond belief how the Ramseys have spent 10 years saying the same old things, and making the same old excuses, all obviously pure BS, and after all that time, they still don't have the ability to understand why it's so obvious to those of us who have normal reactions and feelings that they are not telling the truth.

    I was thinking about Mark Klaas. I was thinking about how you can still see the anger in his eyes when he addresses child molesters and child killers to help the devastated parents of the victims. Klaas is on a MISSION to STOP CHILD PREDATORS. How many years ago was his little girl Polly taken by one of these vile insults to human life? Yet hardly a week goes by that I don't see Klaas on TV, speaking out, trying to help parents who have found themselves in this most awful of circumstances.

    Then there are the Ramseys: last Spring, knowing she was facing death, where is Patsy Ramsey? On a Christian TV stage, talking about how wonderful she is and how innocent they are and blahblahblah...all for a small FEE. And there is John, being asked IF HE WANTS THIS KILLER CAUGHT...and what does John say? A wise friend observed that maybe God hasn't let this happen because the Ramseys aren't ready for it...and John observed that his friend is a WISE MAN. OH, yes he did!! I AM NOT MAKING THIS UP!

    Can you IMAGINE? What blasphemy this is to all parents of murdered children, to all murdered children, TO HIS OWN MURDERED CHILD AND FAMILY!

    But he didn't stop THERE. Oh no, not WE'RE-ABOVE-IT-ALL Ramsey. NOW John is on the record as stating HE FELT SORRY FOR JOHN MARK KARR! A man who wrote and said the most vile things I've personally ever heard of another human being saying about MOLESTING CHILDREN...not to mention JONBENET, A MOLESTED AND MURDERED CHILD! And that would be JOHN'S OWN CHILD!!

    Now...compare these two fathers.

    People do react differently, and I know there are plenty of parents of murdered children who don't go the distance like Klaas. But to say and do the things the Ramseys have all these years, TO THE POINT OF TRYING TO ELICIT EMPATHY FOR A SICK PERVERT LIKE KARR, WHO DESCRIBED HIS FANTASIES OF MOLESTING JONBENET IN GREAT DETAIL...it's so obvious to me that John and Patsy could not ever understand how innocent parents of murdered children truly feel and react because they just are not in that category, IMO.

    And while I once thought that I'd never really be able to land on anyone in the inner circle of JonBenet as the molester, now...I'm finding myself wondering about John, because how else can a natural father defend such a sicko as Karr, unless he does understand him...too well?

    "University of Colorado Law Professor Paul Campos declared the letter a 'reckless exoneration.' He went on to state, 'Everyone knows that relative immunity from criminal conviction is something money can buy.
    Apparently another thing it can buy is an apology for even being suspected of a crime you probably already would have been convicted of committing if you happened to be poor.'"
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    And while I once thought that I'd never really be able to land on anyone in the inner circle of JonBenet as the molester, now...I'm finding myself wondering about John, because how else can a natural father defend such a sicko as Karr, unless he does understand him...too well?

    BINGO!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by heymom
    And while I once thought that I'd never really be able to land on anyone in the inner circle of JonBenet as the molester, now...I'm finding myself wondering about John, because how else can a natural father defend such a sicko as Karr, unless he does understand him...too well?

    BINGO!!!

    HeyMom,

    He found her (that is everything). The parent inevitably finds the child when they did it. He went right to her at 1:00, right to her.

    The fact that he says he felt sorry for Karr lends even more credence, not because I think he relates to him, but BECAUSE IT IS SUCH BULL4#@%. It is an act, just as Patsy acted. He does not feel anything for John Karr.

    I understand what you mean HeyMom. I am not sure what happened that night, but I would bet money that John is involved; just because he found her.



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