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    Wasn't it Darlie Routier who sprayed Silly String all over the headstones of her murdered little boys, on one of their birthdays? Throwing dirt when you are memorializing your dead child is totally inappropriate and shows a complete disregard of the import of the moment. Sick.
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    Yes it was Darlie who sprayed silly string on one of her murdered son's grave on his birthday. She's where she needs to be, imo.

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    Dale Fullwood should have his head hung in shame instead of on the front page of my newspaper.
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    The parents of a slain North Port girl agreed today to leave their four children in the custody of the children’s grandparents, avoiding a dependency trial that was scheduled for next week.

    Coralrose Fullwood’s siblings, ages 4 to 12, have been in the temporary custody of their maternal grandparents in Lee County since the state Department of Children and Families took them from their parents the day after their 6-year-old sister’s body was found in a wooded lot near the family’s North Port home.

    Coralrose’s parents, Dale and Ellen-Beth Fullwood, will now work on a case plan in an effort to be reunified with their children. Typically, that process takes about a year.

    “They’ll get their kids back, eventually,” said Debra Salisbury, attorney for Dale Fullwood.

    The Fullwoods have separated since Coralrose’s death, and are being represented by different attorneys in the custody matter.

    The Fullwood children were taken from their parents after a North Port Police Department detective reported alarming conditions in the home, including fecal matter in a bathtub.

    No one has been arrested in connection with the Sept. 17 killing. Police have also confirmed Coralrose was raped, but say DNA evidence shows a non-family member was the perpetrator of that crime.

    Dale Fullwood is awaiting trial on two counts of possession of child pornography.

    http://www.heraldtribune.com/apps/pb...ING04/70207003
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    "What happens is that evil comes in," Fleet says. "If you don't have truth, all you have are lies, then what comes in is evil. And evil just does its thing. In the Ramsey case, it just did its thing, and it's eaten up so many people."

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    I am curious about the terms of Dale's punishment if/when found guilty of the child pornography charges. Surely one of the conditions would be to that he would not be allowed to have contact with children - but would that include his own?
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    "Justice hasn't had a chance so far. Anyone who doesn't have this as their prime goal, we'll have a falling out with." Fleet White - Time Magazine

    "What happens is that evil comes in," Fleet says. "If you don't have truth, all you have are lies, then what comes in is evil. And evil just does its thing. In the Ramsey case, it just did its thing, and it's eaten up so many people."

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    This is the woman who came to the WS forum and whined about being such a great parent?

    I swear, how bad off are you when you don't KNOW that crap lying around the house isn't a good thing for your kids?

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    Same woman indeed. She was also posting on a local forum so I guess that the Gag Order doesn't cover speaking out about her hurt feelings...
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    "Justice hasn't had a chance so far. Anyone who doesn't have this as their prime goal, we'll have a falling out with." Fleet White - Time Magazine

    "What happens is that evil comes in," Fleet says. "If you don't have truth, all you have are lies, then what comes in is evil. And evil just does its thing. In the Ramsey case, it just did its thing, and it's eaten up so many people."

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    Where did the long thread go at Websleuths? I want to finish reading it and haven't been able to find it.

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    "Don't play dumb with me, RR! You're no good at it." The Punisher

    "Although no one is anticipating a prompt resolution to this long and much-detoured case, perhaps - just perhaps - might we see one of those moments “when a chance arrow of history scores a perfect bullseye on a deserving target”? Steve Thomas 2009

    "Justice hasn't had a chance so far. Anyone who doesn't have this as their prime goal, we'll have a falling out with." Fleet White - Time Magazine

    "What happens is that evil comes in," Fleet says. "If you don't have truth, all you have are lies, then what comes in is evil. And evil just does its thing. In the Ramsey case, it just did its thing, and it's eaten up so many people."

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    Thank you RR and thanks for all your work on it, it's not forgotten.

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    Thank you, Cranberry, Thank You. Here is the update from this mornings paper.

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    Fullwoods admit to neglect


    SARASOTA -- Dale and Ellen-Beth Fullwood pleaded guilty Wednesday to civil charges of neglect brought against them by the Department of Children and Families.

    The Fullwoods, in separate emergency motions that were filed late Tuesday evening, signed a consent agreement with the state that gives permanent custody of their four children, ages 4-13, to their maternal grandparents, Saul and Doreen VanderWoude.

    The Fullwoods also agreed that leaving their house unlocked might have contributed to the death of their 6-year-old daughter, Coralrose.

    As part of the consent agreement, the Fullwoods will work with DCF on a case plan to get their children back eventually. This process can take more than a year.

    Two days after the death of Coralrose, DCF filed neglect charges after North Port Police detectives reported deplorable living conditions, including German cockroaches, and finding feces in the tub, sink and other areas of the house.

    At a Jan. 24 hearing, Ellen-Beth was granted unsupervised visitation with her children, who are staying with her parents in Fort Myers. Dale was denied unsupervised visitation at the same hearing. He must visit with the children in a public place.

    Coralrose was found murdered and sexually assaulted in the woods near her home in North Port on Sept. 17. A circuit judge granted temporary custody to the VanderWoudes. At the Jan. 24 hearing, North Port Police detective Tom Stella testified that the Fullwoods were cleared of the sexual assault. However, he said they and everyone who is part of the investigation are still suspects in her death. North Port police are investigating the crime and have not made any arrests.


    Attorney Linda Griffin, who represents Ellen-Beth in the custody case, asked DCF to do a home study of Ellen-Beth's current home in Fort Myers to determine if the children could live there. Dale Fullwood did not make the same request.

    Dale is scheduled for a jury trial on his child pornography charges on July 16.

    http://www.sun-herald.com/Newsheadli...=8360&banner=2
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    "What happens is that evil comes in," Fleet says. "If you don't have truth, all you have are lies, then what comes in is evil. And evil just does its thing. In the Ramsey case, it just did its thing, and it's eaten up so many people."

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    CoralRoseMom:
    Originally posted by cintg73:

    "The family fibs about stuff too. Like the older daughter story. Ellen knows all about ugly court battles from that story. Paternity tests and all that. Ugly stuff."

    I swore i would not post and will not after this. Cintg YOU KNOW NOTHING. The "older Daughter" story as you call it is NO WHERE NEAR how YOU portray it. Dahlia moved in with my parents because she needed a quiet environment. PERIOD. The only paperwork was done on a legal program my father had on his computer and was then notarized at a bank. She and I have a close relationship still. If you know us, you could ask her. Since you do not, instead you choose to attack and lie.

    Everone else: I appologize for the post, but my daughter Dahlia deserves better than lies told about her by someone who does not know the truth. Please believe I chose to consent to the case plan based on the information I had and in order to protect my children. It in no way was a guilty plea to the allegations as originally stated.

    http://forums.heraldtribune.com/eve/...91040175/p/407
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    "What happens is that evil comes in," Fleet says. "If you don't have truth, all you have are lies, then what comes in is evil. And evil just does its thing. In the Ramsey case, it just did its thing, and it's eaten up so many people."



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