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September 26, 2007, 9:17 pm, Wed Sep 26 21:17:47 UTC 2007 #49
huh? Paradox...you do crack me up.
Jamie
Life is a journey, always learning what you can, always loving the best you can and realizing you are never alone.
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September 27, 2007, 1:11 pm, Thu Sep 27 13:11:22 UTC 2007 #50
Let me emphasize that Murphy "MIGHT" do a chat here. Nothing official so far. I hope things work out, but I'm sure Wendy is busy and scheduling might be an issue. Let's wait and see.
"University of Colorado Law Professor Paul Campos declared the letter a 'reckless exoneration.' He went on to state, 'Everyone knows that relative immunity from criminal conviction is something money can buy.
Apparently another thing it can buy is an apology for even being suspected of a crime you probably already would have been convicted of committing if you happened to be poor.'"
FF: WRKJB?
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September 28, 2007, 12:11 pm, Fri Sep 28 12:11:42 UTC 2007 #51
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Originally Posted by heymom
Maybe Patsy did not look at it as abuse. If JB had rashes from wet underwear, Patsy may have thought she was doing something good for her in keeping her clean. But this is just a guess since Colorado said it was common knowledge that this was going on. I believe Colorado said that and that she could not name her source.
So it is supposition on my part. But the physical results were there and Thomas believed it was corporal cleaning. So what else is there but douching. It is very invasive and sort of "see what we have to do because you will not learn to do this correctly". Patsy certainly could have left abrasions if she were doing this.
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September 28, 2007, 12:20 pm, Fri Sep 28 12:20:52 UTC 2007 #52
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Originally Posted by Paradox
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September 28, 2007, 9:34 pm, Fri Sep 28 21:34:44 UTC 2007 #53
Originally Posted by sboyd
"We're not necessarily doubting that God will do the best for us; we are wondering how painful the best will turn out to be." - C.S. Lewis
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September 28, 2007, 10:27 pm, Fri Sep 28 22:27:10 UTC 2007 #54
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Originally Posted by heymom
I think psychological damage can come from non corporal experiences that lead to disruption of libido flow in any number of behaviors. There need not be a one to one correspondence between experience and repeated behaviors. Afterall, murderers need not experience being murdered to murder others, do they?
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September 29, 2007, 7:26 am, Sat Sep 29 7:26:40 UTC 2007 #55
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Originally Posted by sboyd
Linda Hoffman Pugh's account of JonBenét was not flattering, she was very rude to her. When you think about it. LHP had only worked with the Ramseys since September 2006. Up until then, Linda Wilcox worked there for two and a half years, and she stated to Peter Boyles that both Burke and JonBenét were bedwetters, with Burke being 7 when she went to work there. Both of the children wore pullups.elle: The RST can't handle the truth!
Just my opinion.
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September 29, 2007, 8:38 am, Sat Sep 29 8:38:46 UTC 2007 #56
Originally Posted by Paradox
I don't know how Patsy was violated, but I suspect she was, in all ways, mentally, emotionally, and physically. She has many of the hallmarks of someone who has been molested and abused.
Yes, I would say that the most potent violation is sexual.
No, a person who kills obviously has not already been killed, but many of them are soul-dead when they kill. I believe some people are destined for evil, and some are turned that way through environment. I don't believe Patsy was wholly evil. I believe John Ramsey may well be but covers it better. He's smarter than OJ.
I believe that IF Patsy had been the one who sexually violated JonBenet, she would have to have been sexually violated herself in some way, either by her father or her mother, most likely her mother. Otherwise it is repugnant to think of hurting your child in that way.
John Ramsey may or may not also have been abused. We don't seem to know a whole lot about his family of origin."We're not necessarily doubting that God will do the best for us; we are wondering how painful the best will turn out to be." - C.S. Lewis
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September 29, 2007, 1:58 pm, Sat Sep 29 13:58:04 UTC 2007 #57
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Children often dissociate when they are in situations they cannot tolerate. They "aren't there" or they become someone else momentarily. I wonder if Patsy repeated that experience as well when she violated JonBenet, becoming someome else, say Nedra or Sandy Stranger? And did little Patsy turn into an angel and fly to safety when the offending fingers found their mark?
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September 29, 2007, 2:49 pm, Sat Sep 29 14:49:50 UTC 2007 #58
Originally Posted by Paradox
If Patsy was abusing JonBenet in any way, she may not have been splitting off into someone else, but just acting out the rage she could never express as a child or young adult. If JonBenet refused to cooperate with Patsy's plans, Patsy would have become furious, because Patsy herself could never have refused violations."We're not necessarily doubting that God will do the best for us; we are wondering how painful the best will turn out to be." - C.S. Lewis
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September 29, 2007, 8:47 pm, Sat Sep 29 20:47:10 UTC 2007 #59
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Wendy, I'll be waiting.
In a completely unrelated story, a weird thing happened to me at work yesterday. I was preparing a shipment of mail for Atlanta, GA, and just by chance, I came upon a letter addressed to someone in what I assume was an Atlanta suburb. The name?
Ms. Patricia A. Ramsey
I stared at it for a minute, and then I started to laugh. And I couldn't stop!
Does anyone think it could be the same person? The "Ms." as opposed to "Mrs." makes me think not, but it would be one hell of a co-inky-dink for someone in the same city to have the same name, right down to the middle initial!
And if it is the same, I guess they didn't get the news yet! But then, it wouldn't be the first time the gummit messed up!They should all drown in lakes of blood. Now they will know why they are afraid of the dark. Now they will learn why they fear the night.
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September 30, 2007, 3:56 pm, Sun Sep 30 15:56:04 UTC 2007 #60
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Originally Posted by Paradox
I do think Patsy dissociated herself from things though. She dissociated herself from her rage attack on Jonbenet on that fatal night.
The FBI CASKU experts hid it dead center when pointing out the double purpose of the ransom note: that it not only served to misdirect LE and focus attention elsewhere, but also was a cathartic act allowing the offender to "undo" the crime in his/her own mind.
I believe the bizarre 'garrote' scene staged in the wine cellar served this two-fold purpose too: misdirecting LE and enabling Patsy to disconnect herself from the true cause of JonBenet's death: the head injury she had inflicted on her daughter.
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