29pg CA Karr Investigation Transcript

Discussion in 'Justice for JonBenet Discussion - Public Forum' started by ACandyRose, Sep 24, 2007.

  1. ACandyRose

    ACandyRose Super Moderator

    On November 2, 2006 Sonoma County California released a 29 page .PDF file for the public to download, this was a 29 page file documenting their investigation on John Mark Karr in April 2001. I have transcribed the full 29 pages into text for anybody who wishes to copy all or portions. Pass it around !!

    The only reason Karr beat the California rap was because his original hard drive was missing in Sonoma County's physical evidence files. But even though they lost the physical hard drive, Sonoma County still documented their entire investigation and that wasn't lost.

    http://www.acandyrose.com/2001-03-19-SonomaCoKarrReport.htm

    I'm just providing the link here but Tricia or FFJ mods, if you feel it's appreciate to copy the file to a thread, go for it.

    John Mark Karr is playing cat and mouse games and semantics. He posted previously at Jameson's forum that he detest pornography and when confronted he claimed if there was porn that it was on an old hard drive that probably belonged to somebody else before he used it. He's got Brooke parroting a story that the cops found an old zip disk that contained porn but claims it's not Karrs because she's posting that his fingerprints weren't on it. Apparently he didn't tell her about all the word processing documents that contain porn and where he fantasies about having sex with little girls.

    Few Samples:

    Page 8 of 29: "In another forwarded message dated 03/24/01, Karr wrote, "When you talked about the way you thought Richard killed Polly at the end of a perfect love-making session as part of a ritual, well, I thought about how many times I wished that had happened to me."

    In my opinion, if John Mark Karr had murdered JonBenet in 1996 the way he wants everybody to believe it happened, then he wouldn't have made the statement above in 2001 that he had wished many times that had happened to him. My guess is that after Karr was corresponding with Richard Allen Davis in 2001 that he became so jealous and envied Davis so much that he had to do one better and that was to claim he killed JonBenet.

    Page 13 of 29: "Recovered from the vehicle's trunk was a plastic bag containing 19 pornographic magazines."

    Page 25 of 29: "I recovered numerous e-mails to John Karr, word processing documents by John Karr, a graphic files. I believe the recovered items clearly demonstrate that John Karr is the primary user of the computer and that he is actively involved in collecting child pornography of young 6-9 year old girls. The e-mails and word processing documents clearly show that Karr is aroused by young girls, believes it is OK for a man to be in love with a young girl and that Karr is actively fantasizing about being sexual with young girls. Additionally it is evident that Karr has a fascination with the Polly Klaas homicide and the JonBenet Ramsey homicide. He writes that he
    understands Richard Allen Davis and why he killed Polly."

    By the way if anybody here has "Justice_Seeker's" email, please send her the link to this file so she can check if "perplexed_mom" wants to read it.

    ACR
     
  2. ACandyRose

    ACandyRose Super Moderator

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    Sonoma County Sheriff's Department
    Case #: 010402-04
    Page 21 of 29:

    "On 4-16-01 at approx. 0900 hrs, I spoke with MS, from Alabama, regarding the suspect John Karr. MS said that she knows, "a lot," about John. MS said that she would rather talk to me in person because she didn't not want to talk about this sensitive information over the phone. MS was very concerned for her safely and wanted to remain as anonymous as possible.

    MS said that John was married to her daughter, QS, in June 1984. MS said that QS was only 13 years old when John married her in Alabama. QS and John immediately moved to Georgia where they lived with John's father in his apartment. MS said that QS was possibly drugged and sexually assaulted during her short marriage to John. MS said that the marriage was annulled in March 1985.

    MS said that QS told her that John mentioned raping a, "little black girl." MS did not have any details and mentioned that they have tried to forget anything related to John. MS said that she learned from QS that John may have bragged about killing some young children and burying them beneath their apartment in Georgia. MS said that she would talk to QS and try to get more information or see if QS would be willing to talk with me. MS said that QS is very upset right now due to a recent divorce and may not be emotionally ready to talk about what she knows about John which also tends to disturb her.

    On 4-16-01 at approx. 1300 hrs., QS called me from Alabama. QS said that she met John through her best friend (BLACKED OUT), sister. QS told me that she met John when she was 13 years old and that she would sneak out of her house at times just to see him. QS told me that she and John had sexual intercourse one time before she married him. QS said that she ran off with John to Georgia once but the police located them and they were returned to Alabama. QS told me that shortly after that she convinced her mother to let her marry John. QS said they moved to Georgia where they lived in John's brother's Atlanta area home. QS could not recall the address but said that the phone number was (BLACKED OUT).

    QS said that once she married John, he became very possessive and jealous of her. QS said that John would not even let her bathe without being there with her and he was extremely accusatory if she even looked at another man. QS said that John was, "overly sexual," and insisted on having sex mornings, afternoons and evenings. QS said she had to have sex with John every night, "no matter what," and she likened it to a chore. QS said that if she declined or told him that she did not feel like it, he would, "play mind games," or accuse her of not loving him. QS said John had vaginal sex with her, occasionally some mutual oral sex, never any anal sex.

    QS also told me that John liked for her to war "pig tails" in her hair so she looked more like a little girl. QS said John always called her his, "little one." QS said that she recalled that John wanted her to shave her vaginal hair on a few occasions. QS said that John made her smile with her mouth open a certain way because it made her look like when she was younger. She said that John also wanted her to say certain phrases over and over again until she said them the right way. QS said she couldn't recall what the phrases were at this time. QS told me that John would at times wear her clothing, (dresses, nylons, and bras), and would sometimes put on make-up, (which he owned).

    QS told me that John told her some very disturbing things while she was married to him. QS said that one day John told her straight out, "there's something about a little girl, I don't think I could hold myself back if we had a little girl. Would you hold that against me?" QS said she was very shocked and hurt by this statement.

    QS also told me that one day John took her down the old wooden stairs in his bother's house where they lived. QS said that John showed her the dirt area under the house where there were 3-4 arrangements of "fake" flowers. QS said that John told her that he killed some people and that he buried them there under the house. QS described the ground under the house as being sloped upward and the flowers were up where the clearance was lowest. QS said that she did not believe that the ground looked recently dug up. QS said she was very disturbed by what John told her but said that John later claimed he was, "kidding."

    QS said that shortly after the day he showed her the graves, (or possibly the same day, she could not recall exactly), John was kissing her at the top of the stairs to the basement. QS said that John pointed down the stairs and told QS that he wanted her to urinate and defecate on the floor and then he wanted to have sex with her in the excrement. QS said he refused to do what he wanted.


    QS also told me that one day, while they were still married, John made her go to the park against her wishes. QS said that John insisted until she went with him for a drive to a park. QS said that once at the park, John pushed her on the swing for a while and they left. QS said that she thought it was strange that John really wanted to push her on the swing so badly. QS said she could not recall what else happened that day or what she was wearing.

    QS said another oddity about John was that she would find woman's purses and, "lots and lots," of shoes from time to time in their Atlanta home that did not belong to her or her sister-in-law. QS said that the purses had billfolds in them with some grocery receipts. QS said she asked John why he collected shoes and purses. John responded by later disposing of the items at a clothes "center."

    QS said that she did not know of John raping a black girl. QS said that she knew that John's father was having an affair with a black woman in the complex and that that woman had a daughter whom was approx. 3-4 years old. QS told me that she would sometimes hear the girl crying while the woman was visiting John's father.

    QS told me that she returned to Alabama and visited her friend Tara where she found some love notes that John had been writing Tara while QS was married to John. The love notes and John's odd and obsessive behavior led QS to ask her mother for help in getting out of the marriage. QS said her marriage was annulled in March 1995."
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    ACR
     
  3. Little

    Little Member

    Absolutely amazing ACandyRose. Amazing and nauseating. The Sonoma County Sheriff's Department sure did their homework. Unfortunately someone within the organization let their dog eat what might have assured that this lowest of life criminal would have been taken off the streets.

    Thank you for bringing forth this proof that jmk is a huge danger to any child he comes in contact with.

    Little
     
  4. RiverRat

    RiverRat FFJ Sr. Member Extraordinaire (Pictured at Lef

    http://www.topix.net/forum/news/jonbenet-ramsey/T3OHC45JLVH6K8I0M

    A CandyRose would like to share this information with those here (and in other swampy areas) her transciption = CALM DOWN Fake Candy = of the 29 pages released from California's investigation.

    http://www.acandyrose.com/2001-03-19-SonomaCo...

    Page 8 of 29: "In another forwarded message dated 03/24/01, Karr wrote, "When you talked about the way you thought Richard killed Polly at the end of a perfect love-making session as part of a ritual, well, I thought about how many times I wished that had happened to me."

    Page 13 of 29: "Recovered from the vehicle's trunk was a plastic bag containing 19 pornographic magazines."

    Page 25 of 29: "I recovered numerous e-mails to John Karr, word processing documents by John Karr, a graphic files. I believe the recovered items clearly demonstrate that John Karr is the primary user of the computer and that he is actively involved in collecting child pornography of young 6-9 year old girls. The e-mails and word processing documents clearly show that Karr is aroused by young girls, believes it is OK for a man to be in love with a young girl and that Karr is actively fantasizing about being sexual with young girls. Additionally it is evident that Karr has a fascination with the Polly Klaas homicide and the JonBenet Ramsey homicide. He writes that he
    understands Richard Allen Davis and why he killed Polly."

    SOoooooooooooooo - some of you good-hearted Swamp Dwellers are over there praying for the Soul of Satan.....Do You NOT Get THIS?! Sue Bennett has invited the Devil in to Dance with you and some of you are actually doing so....I'm sure God would be so proud.......the rest of us are either laughing hysterically or scared chitless for the danger you are all in.

    RR's opinion is that if Mr. Freak Show wants to impress me - have the GirlieBoy go within ten feet of Marc Klass........That would soooo mmake my day.

    Hats off to the One and Only ACandyRose for the job well done = as always!

    :yay:
     
  5. Barbara

    Barbara FFJ Senior Member

    Hat's off to ACandyRose for once again, getting the information out there untainted!

    As always..... :rose:

    The swamp dwellers would rather embrace the Devil than question the Ramseys

    How sad!
     
  6. ACandyRose

    ACandyRose Super Moderator

    Yep, 29 pages of documented TRUTH of what was found in John Mark Karr's house and computers in California.

    Here below are John Mark Karr's very own words on his very own forum where he tries to explain away the porn found and then he claims it's porn of little BOYS !!

    JMK's words, "As I have said time and again, I detest child pornography and forever will. I have never dabbled in child pornography and have strongly voiced my opinions to those who have made any comments supporting such photos."

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    http://www.johnmarkkarrnow.com/smf/index.php?topic=48.0
    Author Topic: Child Pornography (Read 34 times)

    John Mark Karr
    Administrator
    Jr. Member
    Posts: 55

    Child Pornography
    « on: September 22, 2007, 05:59:46 PM »

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    "It is correct that the alleged evidence in Sonoma County did vanish. It must be clarified the nature of these charges. The alleged files were deleted and supposedly located on a broken computer with a hard drive that was inaccessible and had been stored under a staircase. This was confirmed by Lara Knutson in a law enforcement interview on September 1, 2006. The computer was not functional for years. The hard drive was a refurbished drive and could have contained deleted files from a past user. The alleged files involved photos that could not be determined that the subjects were under 14 years of age by age specialists hired by the prosecution. When shown the files, I had never seen them before. Law enforcement found a box containing a zip drive that contained 1,600 images. They were unable to prove that it belonged to me after checking the drive for my prints. I have never owned a zip drive. My attorney requested 100 of those images and stated that they all involved pornographic photos of little BOYS.

    As I have said time and again, I detest child pornography and forever will. I have never dabbled in child pornography and have strongly voiced my opinions to those who have made any comments supporting such photos."

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    ACR
     
  7. Elle

    Elle Member

    I'm absolutely stunned at the amount of work you have done here, ACandyRose. This is the apology for a man, John Mark Karr which DA Mary Lacy brought back to the U.S. from Thailand. How on earth can the United States Government allow this man to roam free with a background like this?
     
  8. Cherokee

    Cherokee FFJ Senior Member

    Thanks, ACR, for making this information available. You are amazing.

    I will say it again ...

    JOHN MARK KARR IS NOT HARMLESS

    HE PUBLICLY FANTASIZES ABOUT SEX WITH LITTLE GIRLS. HE IS JUST LIKE JOHN DAVID ROY ATCHISON, THE MAN ARRESTED RECENTLY FOR ACCEPTING A MOTHER'S INVITATION TO HAVE SEX WITH HER FIVE YEAR OLD GIRL


    http://www.miamiherald.com/news/florida/story/247488.html

    Posted on Sun, Sep. 23, 2007
    BY MARY ELLEN KLAS
    meklas@MiamiHerald.com


    Sex sting shocks Gulf Breeze community

    The arrest of a federal prosecutor and popular community leader on child sex charges has rocked a close-knit town in the Florida Panhandle.

    GULF BREEZE -- The courtly colonial house with its wraparound porch and fishing boat in the back is perfectly situated in this close-knit beach town.

    Twenty years ago, John D. Roy Atchison, a young prosecutor in the U.S. attorney's office, picked this idyllic spot a block from the beach to build a home and raise a family. He fished in Pensacola Bay, coached girls basketball and softball, and dedicated himself to the community sports association just blocks from their home, while his wife, Barbara, taught honors science classes at Gulf Breeze High.

    On Sept. 16, this picture-perfect world came to an abrupt halt. Police in Detroit arrested Atchison, 54, in an Internet sex sting. They say he traveled to Detroit with a doll, hooped earrings, sex aids and the intent to have sex with what he thought was a 5-year-old girl.

    Sheriff's deputies said he had arranged the affair with the fictitious victim by sending daily instant messages to an undercover officer -- who was posing as the child's mother -- between Aug. 31 and Sept. 13. They say he had a Yahoo! screen name of fldaddy04 and a profile page that read: ''I adore everything about young girls, how they talk, think, act, walk, look.'' His MySpace.com page features photos of young adults dressed in diapers.

    The husband and father of three now sits in a federal prison in Detroit on suicide watch, charged with three sex-related offenses that include attempting to entice a minor to have sex and crossing state lines to do so.

    ''It's not unusual for there to be more issues other than the chat room,'' said Macomb County Sheriff Mark A. Hackel in Detroit. Among them, he said, is the possibility there may be child victims and involvement with child pornography.

    That possibility has racked the Gulf Breeze town of 5,800 with worry and doubt.

    ''I've gone back mentally and reviewed everything we've done,'' said Buz Eddy, Gulf Breeze's city manager whose office is lined with team photos of his daughter's sports, including teams Atchison coached.

    'If he would have called and said, `I'm taking a bunch of girls fishing in Destin for the weekend, can your daughter go?' I wouldn't have had any hesitation,'' said Eddy. ``We've never seen anything like this from Roy, particularly from his demeanor and his profession. Shock isn't a strong enough word.''

    Police have assured the community that no one has come forward to allege abuse by Atchison. The Gulf Breeze Sports Association, of which Atchison served as president until Monday, offered similar assurances.

    The details that emerged this week of Atchison paint a portrait of a man nobody in this small town even recognizes.

    According to the complaint, the undercover officer acting as the girl's mother expressed concern in the instant messages that the child might be harmed, but Atchison attempted to allay any fears. He wrote: ``I'm always gentle and loving; not to worry; no damage ever; no rough stuff ever, ever.''

    The same officer, notes the complaint, then asked how he could be sure, since he intended to perform specific sex acts, and Atchison replied: ``Just gotta go slow and very easy is how; I've done it plenty.''


    Miami Herald researcher Tina Cummings contributed to this report.
     

    Attached Files:

  9. Cherokee

    Cherokee FFJ Senior Member

    Karr's own words, where he describes his sexual fantasies of little girls and his fake love trysts with JonBenet, are PORNOGRAPHY!
     
  10. ACandyRose

    ACandyRose Super Moderator

    It was also Lara Knutson (who is Karr's ex-wife) who identifed for LE that it was John Karr's voice on the telephone recordings with the Informant (CRI) listed in the Sonoma County documentation where he was telling the informant how much he wants to have sex with a six year old child.

    What Karr also fails to mention is that LE took THREE computers out of his house, not just one claiming to be "The computer was not functional for years."

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    Page 28 of 29: Computers seized from 2004 Chetwood Drive house (This is the house they were moving TO):

    2ME CPU Pro Computer Design AIE 34863366 Ser# 02973214 User Applied # DIS.009 Found on Computer Hutch

    17ME Laptop Comp. AST386SX/25 Ser# USN3010553 Found in downstairs Closet
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    Page 24 of 29: Items seized from 1041 Addison Drive house (This is the house they were moving FROM):

    "While there I collected a computer tower with a printer, a computer hard drive, a maroon accordion file that contained some paperwork. I also collected a .380 semi-automatic pistol, a canister of undeveloped film, an all girls school yearbook, some photographs of the suspect wearing makeup, a calendar containing hundreds of photos of small children, and the suspect's Sonoma County Schools identification card. More items I collected included several articles of correspondence between the suspect and Richard Allen Davis"
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    ACR
     
  11. koldkase

    koldkase FFJ Senior Member

    Well, thanks ACR, you just ensured that I'll lose 10 lbs, because I'm going to be nauseated for some time. Move over, South Beach Diet, John PERV Karr is the new purge in town.

    But don't expect the swampsters to get it. Jams has actually said WE are WORSE than Karr. All because we don't believe in the innocence of the precious Ramseys. Shows where HER priorities are: Child abusers, molesters, and murderers--people who MUST be shown every courtesy and respect. Anyone who DOESN'T feel that way: the worst, to be verbally abused endlessly for standing up against child abusers and murderers.

    PERV Karr is truly a very sick monster. No, he didn't murder JonBenet. But if they keep baiting him, maybe he'll "love" some other little girl to death as he has fantasized now for decades, it appears. They're playing with fire.

    I watched a program on ATTENTION SEEKING KILLERS last night. Those are the ones who killed for ATTENTION, like Son of Sam. I thought of PERV Karr and wondered how far he will go for this attention he seeks with his pathological lies and behavior.

    SOMEONE PLEASE GET BROOKE'S CHILD AWAY FROM THAT MONSTER!!
     
  12. koldkase

    koldkase FFJ Senior Member

    So way back when PERV Karr was raping and molesting a 13 year old, abusing her, coercing her, and assaulting her for control of her every bodily function, he was ALSO wearing women's clothes and makeup, according to Quintana, his first known victim. Now here we see that he also wore makeup in PICTURES FOUND BY LE IN 2001, pictures made before he was ARRESTED for those offences.

    Guess that blows his "Thai attempts at a sex change to avoid LE" lie.

    So I'm upgrading PERV Karr to a psychopath. He's obviously been walking a thin line with the law, manipulating it and those around him since he was a very young man. His pathology, as far as we know it, is very frightening. You're right, RRat, I am very fearful for those lambs being led to the slaughter by PERV Karr. Did anyone else get a chill when PERV Karr kept asking mBm about her visit with her DAUGHTER? Made the hair stand up on the back of my neck. How can that woman be so stupid? She's his NUMBER ONE FAN now.

    Oh well. Another day at the swamp: child molesters and SICKO PERVS welcome.
     
  13. Thor

    Thor Active Member

    Great job on this BJ, you are beyond words! Thanks for your hard work in bringing this bastid to light in a way that shouldn't be hard to figure out for the average person (that isn't a swamp dweller).
     
  14. koldkase

    koldkase FFJ Senior Member

    Most pedophiles are never caught or held responsible for their crimes against children. Those who are have molested scores of times before they're ever caught. I've even seen that number in the hundreds. Parents and children don't want to go public once they've lived through it. They feel embarrassed, ashamed, and guilty. They don't want public humiliation added to that.

    I say hand Atchison a nice sharp razor.
     
  15. tylin

    tylin Banned

    !

    ACR ,
    Thank you once again for a job well done. I greatly admire you for all you've done for this case. :grouphug:

    Little,
    Interesting and nauseating is right.

    May I say for starters, :wtf:????
    After reading only a small portion of ACR'S newly posted information, I'm thoroughly convinced that jam's is nothing more than an attention seeking bafoon who would stoop to any low to get readers at the swamp.

    The bigger bafoon may be Brooke.....who is so *****in stoopid that she's willing to let a slimey, eyeliner wearing, man boobed, pervert be around her little GIRL....
    For gawds sake PLEASE!! Someone take the child away from her mother before the *** karr rapes her.
     
  16. ACandyRose

    ACandyRose Super Moderator

    Exactly Cherokee,

    What makes these type of men dangerous is that they don't look at what they call their little love trysts, imaginary or otherwise, into the category of pornography or child molestation or sexual perverts.

    And sadly people like Karr come across to children as this neat, clean, funny little man who likes to giggle and play games with them. He steals their innocence and trust and misconstrues in his perverted mind that they are being cute around him as though they are flirting with him and falling in love with him and that he is only responding to them as though it was two consensual adults.

    Karr has a forum now and one of the sections is titled, "Prevention of Sex Crimes Against Children."

    How sick is this, he is the predator !!

    ACR
     
  17. ACandyRose

    ACandyRose Super Moderator

    Tylin,

    Unfortunately, at present I don't see Brooke waking up to smell the coffee anytime soon until it's too late. First she's being snowed by one who thinks he's the master manipulator of cat and mouse games. Karr is grooming Brooke just like he did with all the little girls he once had access to when he was a teacher. Brooke believes Karr just like all the little innocent little girls did when he got them to sit on his lap and giggle and laugh with him.

    If there is even one ounce of doubt in anybody’s mind that John Mark Karr has not reformed, has not redeemed himself, is playing the religion card, is playing the 'woe is me' card, his, 'I just want to get back to a normal life' card, just visit his forum one time and you will see at least two threads that are in total complete contrast of each other.

    One thread is titled, "Prevention of Sex Crimes Against Children"
    One thread is titled, "Daxis"

    His "Daxis" thread is set up for discussion all about his manifesto he wrote about his perverted sex and love for JonBenet (who he claims he murdered accidentally) and other little girls in his life he lusted for, both dead and alive.

    So what would that make his "Prevention of Sex Crimes Against Children" thread all about?

    Sort of like having somebody wearing a shirt with the words "Stamp out Terrorism" on the back and a bomb strapped to the front of his body as he's walking into an airport.

    ACR
     
  18. ACandyRose

    ACandyRose Super Moderator

    LOL, RR, Looks like your post on Topix got a little jealousy from none other than Candy! She just can't stand it when somebody else transcribes something from a .pdf file. :fishslap:

    Get the :pop: out, Candy's calling the Sheriff on ACR !!

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    Lies by John Mark Karr
    http://www.topix.net/forum/news/jonbenet-ramsey/TM6QO31G18JUCIJI6

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    candy
    East Lansing, MI Reply »
    |Flag |#20 1 hr ago

    Here's the ORIGINAL link to the ORIGINAL department that put this OFFICIAL police report out, not the internet thief who ripped it off and called it their own: http://www.sonomasheriff.org/john_mark_carr.pdf
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    Tired Of Censorship
    Troy, MI Reply »
    |Flag |#21 1 hr ago

    candy wrote:
    "Here's the ORIGINAL link to the ORIGINAL department that put this OFFICIAL police report out, not the internet thief who ripped it off and called it their own: http://www.sonomasheriff.org/john_mark_carr.pdf"

    And because someone adds that to their collection of documentation they have collected for 10 years on this case so people can have an archive of the facts on the case, it doesn't mean they "stole" it either!
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    Tired Of Censorship
    Troy, MI Reply »
    |Flag |#22 1 hr ago

    P.S. Your link doesn't work!
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    candy
    East Lansing, MI Reply »
    |Flag |#23 1 hr ago

    I called the Sheriff, and they are going to fix THEIR link to THEIR police report that THEY released on THEIR website ONLY.
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    ACR
     
  19. Little

    Little Member

    Ok, I honestly don't get what she's got her knickers in a knot over. Not that I ever do understand her.

    Little
     
  20. koldkase

    koldkase FFJ Senior Member

    Gutter candy is insane. :yes:
     
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