JonBenet exploited, again...by Maketoast.com

Discussion in 'Justice for JonBenet Discussion - Public Forum' started by koldkase, Nov 13, 2007.

  1. koldkase

    koldkase FFJ Senior Member

    I can't even remember what got me on this tangent today, but after many hours, I've finally gotten onto the angle of one con man, Brandon Havens. I'll post the trail I followed next, but if you've ever been to Maketoast.com, a website ONCE dedicated to JonBenet, you can follow the links and eventually end up in CHAT...with various LINKS, SOME TO SEX CHAT SITES:

    http://www.maketoast.com/chatroom.html

    And that's what Mr. Havens is doing: making money on ads. After following his badly covered trail all day, it began to dawn on me the answer to Tricia's question, asked when Brandon Havens tried to somehow usurp Websleuths after Tricia got it from River: what was he after? Obviously, he was after the forum so he could profit from the huge number of member and reader hits, to make money selling ads.

    I've also found a "JonBenet Ramsey Foundation, Inc", noted by others before, but which hadn't really gotten my attention until today. It has a FAKE BOARD listed online, I believe, as I can find NO INFO ON ANY OF THE ALLEGED MEMBERS...except "John Ramsey", of course--and I don't think so.... It appears Brandon isn't intending on making any money with it, since he states the non-profit status hasn't come through yet, so he's not collecting money...until you find a feeble attempt using the "Ramsey Foundation" to collect money at a benefit for cancer. But we do have a picture, though I have no idea who those poor suckers in the pic are who participated for Havens, nor if they know they've been had. Well, maybe the money did go to cancer...all $10 of it. I suspect this was a ruse to make it all look "legit", after all.

    Brandon uses a P.O.Box number in Fulton Co., Atlanta, Georgia, on his sites, but unless someone ELSE is checking the mail, it's a front, set-up to make his "Foundation" look legitimate.

    You'd think that John Ramsey would GIVE A RIP that con artists are using his murdered child's name to draw in hits to make money with SEX CHAT LINKS.

    Guess not.

    Oh, well, I'll post what I have found online today, and you can decide for yourself what you think. But don't give the sex chat links too many hits, or he'll just make more money off of an abused and murdered child. Shameful jerk!!
     
    Last edited: Nov 13, 2007
  2. koldkase

    koldkase FFJ Senior Member


    http://www.jonbenetramseyfoundation.org/contact.htm

    Domain owned by:


    Domain ID:D127908757-LROR
    Domain Name:JONBENETRAMSEYFOUNDATION.ORG
    Created On:28-Aug-2006 03:30:13 UTC
    Last Updated On:06-Nov-2007 03:46:40 UTC
    Expiration Date:28-Aug-2008 03:30:13 UTC
    Sponsoring Registrar:Domain People Inc. (R30-LROR)
    Status:CLIENT TRANSFER PROHIBITED
    Registrant ID:NN-1191434371239
    Registrant Name:Brandon Havens
    Registrant Organization:JonBenet Ramsey Children's Foundation
    Registrant Street1:pO BOX 724505
    Registrant Street2:
    Registrant Street3:
    Registrant City:Atlanta
    Registrant State/Province:GA
    Registrant Postal Code:31139
    Registrant Country:US
    Registrant Phone:+1.5402394694
    Registrant Phone Ext.:
    Registrant FAX:+1.5402394694
    Registrant FAX Ext.:
    Registrant Email:bhavens@verizon.net
    Admin ID:NN-1191434372438
    Admin Name:Brandon Havens
    Admin Organization:JonBenet Ramsey Children's Foundation
    Admin Street1:pO BOX 724505
    Admin Street2:
    Admin Street3:
    Admin City:Atlanta
    Admin State/Province:GA
    Admin Postal Code:31139
    Admin Country:US
    Admin Phone:+1.5402394694
    Admin Phone Ext.:
    Admin FAX:+1.5402394694
    Admin FAX Ext.:
    Admin Email:bhavens@verizon.net
    Tech ID:NN-1191434372619
    Tech Name:Brandon Havens
    Tech Organization:Brandon Havens
    Tech Street1:pO BOX 724505
    Tech Street2:
    Tech Street3:
    Tech City:Atlanta
    Tech State/Province:GA
    Tech Postal Code:31139
    Tech Country:US
    Tech Phone:+1.5402394694
    Tech Phone Ext.:
    Tech FAX:+1.5402394694
    Tech FAX Ext.:
    Tech Email:bhavens@verizon.net
    Name Server:NS1.MAKETOAST.COM
    Name Server:NS2.MAKETOAST.COM


    Listed number is a CELL PHONE; (540) 239-4694
    Type: Cell PhoneProvider: Verizon WirelessLocation: Radford, VA


    The zip code listed is an ATLANTA, GA zip code. Brandon has the PO address in Georgia, and the zip is for Fulton County.

    Address listing in Whitepages.com:

    Brandon K Havens
    home
    [address omitted]
    Radford, VA





    Brandon’s contact info listed on Maketoast.com:

    Brandon Havens
    P.O. Box 375
    Radford, VA 24143
    bhavens@verizon.net


    On the Maketoast.com site Brandon “bought†from the original owner, he lists a “tip line†and PO Box with the same number and zip listed on the domain registration, in Atlanta, Ga.—Fulton Co., remember. Who is checking this P.O. Box, if it still exists?

    My search for the other “board membersâ€, excluding John Ramsey, turns up NOTHING online. No names connected to either JonBenet, this foundation, or anything else that links them to Brandon, the Ramseys, or this case. I believe Brandon made them up, it’s a fake “foundationâ€, and he is simply an online entrepreneur who is using JonBenet’s name to make money, or is attempting to, at any rate. Is that why he tried to get WEBSLEUTHS from Tricia? It has HUGE profit potential because of high traffic, and selling ad space can be very profitable. Remember that Groo made $30K selling Cybersleuths, and it was defunct.
     
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  3. koldkase

    koldkase FFJ Senior Member

    Here is a thread I found at Websleuths, still online but buried in archives I can't get to without a google turning it up. This explains what "Brandon Havens" did there, con artist that he is, pretending to be the ORIGINAL Maketoast.com owner, and trying to roust Tricia from owning the forum. He didn't, thank god, or it would probalby be a porn gateway entirely.

    Websleuths thread on Brandon Havens/faux maketoast:


    Maketoast is no longer with WS (http://websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?t=6669)
    thread continued next post
     
  4. koldkase

    koldkase FFJ Senior Member

    I'm cutting some side issues that came up on the thread.

    thread continued next post
     
  5. koldkase

    koldkase FFJ Senior Member

    Here is the last section, with the ORIGINAL MAKETOAST coming online to clear up a few things:

     
  6. koldkase

    koldkase FFJ Senior Member

    This article sent up red flags for me, because as you can SEE from what the ORIGINAL MAKETOAST said, BRANDON HAVENS LIED TO THE REPORTER IN THIS ARTICLE, IMO, by implying he started the maketoast site himself! What a creep. He's going to have a long life of white collar crime, or at least the conscienceless exploitation of anyone, including helpless child victims, I can see that now.

     
  7. koldkase

    koldkase FFJ Senior Member

    And one more thing I found on my search, info which I missed when it was posted long ago: speaking of people making money from a murdered child, Spade answers the question of who had the interview tapes she sold to the NE...with her own words on her own forum, which I also missed somehow. JAMS HERSELF WROTE they came TO TRACEY AND MILLS, COMPLIMENTS OF LIN WOOD. Now I don't believe the anonymous mail story at all. She knew exactly who had the tapes, as she states in her own post:

    http://www.forumsforjustice.org/forums/showthread.php?t=3819&page=1&pp=12

    Here is a link to an interview of the woman who was in the CBS "LIES AND MORE LIES" series, where she first brought out the Ramsey interview tapes to air: the date is 10/2002:

    http://www.cbsnews.com/sections/i_video/main500251.shtml?id=524346n?source=search_video

    Here are some more clips:

    http://search.cbsnews.com/?i=1&q=Jo...pDpING6RYgXJrJeZ6T5Px &y=9&year_created=2002
     
  8. tylin

    tylin Banned

    Thanks for all your hardwork KK. :curtsey:
    Check your pms please. ;)
     
  9. RiverRat

    RiverRat FFJ Sr. Member Extraordinaire (Pictured at Lef

    Great Digging!

    I have to run through all this again, but have you checked the archives here yet, KK?
     
  10. RiverRat

    RiverRat FFJ Sr. Member Extraordinaire (Pictured at Lef

  11. koldkase

    koldkase FFJ Senior Member

    Thanks, RR. I bumped those threads.
     
  12. koldkase

    koldkase FFJ Senior Member

    Thanks for changing the title for me, Moab. I am such a hothead.... But that's the pyrate in me!
     
  13. koldkase

    koldkase FFJ Senior Member

    You don't like this thread, Mr. Havens?

    But you DO like your ADS, sold on a site for a MOLESTED AND MURDERED CHILD?

    Like this one, for instance, which I copied verbatum:

    How about this one:

    Yeah, that's decent stuff to be HAWKING on a website using JONBENET'S NAME TO DRAW IN USERS.

    It's disrespectful of JonBenet AND her family, not all of whom were even IN Colorado the night she died.

    When you quit ACTING like a prick, I'll quit posting you ARE a prick. If you're going to sell ads on a site using her name as the draw, at least get DECENT ONES.
     
  14. tylin

    tylin Banned

    !

    Oh for Pete's sake! Susan Bennet??? :puffy: :puffy:
     
  15. Barbara

    Barbara FFJ Senior Member


    It's so wonderful to see you causing trouble again! :coffeeup: ;)
     
  16. RiverRat

    RiverRat FFJ Sr. Member Extraordinaire (Pictured at Lef

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    RiverRat FFJ Sr. Member Extraordinaire (Pictured at Lef

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  19. Cherokee

    Cherokee FFJ Senior Member

    Besides the more obvious slogan at the top of the package that says:

    Make your child look old before her time ...

    The print going up the left side of the package front (as you look at the photo) says:

    Caution: may make your child more attractive to pedophiles.
     
  20. koldkase

    koldkase FFJ Senior Member

    Oh my god. :eek:

    "make your child look old before her time..."

    Yeah, I'd say it's a spoof. Let me check out the page.
     
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