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    Quote Originally Posted by Little
    I'm not sure but I don't think that it would need John's approval if it was court ordered.

    That would also resolve the stun gun issue.



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    "But when asked earlier, Ramsey attorney Hal Haddon called the possibility of exhuming the girl's body "monstrous" and said it wouldn't be necessary if authorities had done their jobs. "

    Is it just ME, or is there any other posters out there, that do not see what is so "monstrous" about exhuming the body of their child, if it meant that maybe, just maybe...something was missed that could help find her killer??

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    Quote Originally Posted by Elle_1
    Came across this in my search.

    From Tricia's post May 24, 2004, 5:30 pm, Mon May 24 17:30:08 CDT 2004

    http://www.forumsforjustice.org/forums/showpost.php?p=60213&postcount=2

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    "That is my child", "she had just been laid to rest"....blah, blah, blah...blah, blah, blah....yada, yada, yada....and if John really and truly wanted to find the killer of his child...he would have been more than happy to have her body exhumed and a second autopsy performed. Sure it would have been hard...but, come on...there is a "KILLER ON THE LOOSE"..."Keep your babies close". If he hadn't of been involved, he would have jumped at the chance. My cousin was murdered, and my aunt and uncle signed papers to have her body exhumed for a second autopsy. It was hard for them...but, they did it...in the name of JUSTICE.

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    Right, Ames.

    I find John's response particularly interesting in light of his often professed Christianity. Most practicing Christians would tell you that, upon death, our bodies are an empty shell left behind. The soul goes on to live with Jesus forever.

    And yes, I have buried a child so I do know what that is like. But, I'm also a Christian and if I thought it might help find my daughter's murderer, I'd be more than willing to exhume the shell left behind.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pearlsim
    Right, Ames.

    I find John's response particularly interesting in light of his often professed Christianity. Most practicing Christians would tell you that, upon death, our bodies are an empty shell left behind. The soul goes on to live with Jesus forever.

    And yes, I have buried a child so I do know what that is like. But, I'm also a Christian and if I thought it might help find my daughter's murderer, I'd be more than willing to exhume the shell left behind.
    Exactly! The body is only an empty shell. Yes, I find John's reponse interesting too, considering that he claims to be a Christian. When one of my cousins died of leukemia ten years ago, a friend of hers polished her (my cousin) fingernails, so that they would look nice at the receiving of friends and family at the funeral home. I just kept saying..."HOW could you have done that? I just don't think that I could have done that!" And she said.."Well, you see....she is only an empty shell. She is not here with us anymore, she is in heaven with Jesus now". There is a reason that John did not want JB's body exhumed...and its not because she was his child, and that SHE had been laid to rest. What he really meant to say was..."Well, you know...Patsy and I WOULD allow for an exhumation, BUT...you see...we were involved in her murder...and there was some evidence that was missed the first time, and now IT has been laid to rest".

    Pearlsim, I am sorry about the loss of your precious child!! My heart goes out to you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AMES
    "But when asked earlier, Ramsey attorney Hal Haddon called the possibility of exhuming the girl's body "monstrous" and said it wouldn't be necessary if authorities had done their jobs. "

    Is it just ME, or is there any other posters out there, that do not see what is so "monstrous" about exhuming the body of their child, if it meant that maybe, just maybe...something was missed that could help find her killer??
    If it meant finding more clues to help finding the truth, no one should object, except if they have anything to hide like the Ramseys.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Elle_1
    If it meant finding more clues to help finding the truth, no one should object, except if they have anything to hide like the Ramseys.
    Right...and IMO that is why they were so anxious to have her body released for burial. They didn't waste any time, getting her into the ground...and I am quite sure that they let out a huge, gigantic...enormous...sign of relief. "WHEW...glad THAT is over with!"

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    She won't leave office until after this November's election. Then she's done for good. Wonder if she'll have anything to say?

    Better question: will the next one NOT be a hand-picked successor. As anyone who has read PMPT and ST's book knows, it's essentially a one-party socialist dictatorship in Boulder. Mary Lacy was the handpicked successor to Alex Hunter (who has finally lost faith in her, if his "turn it back over to the police" statement is any indication). Time to get some REAL democracy in there!
    They should all drown in lakes of blood. Now they will know why they are afraid of the dark. Now they will learn why they fear the night.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Punisher
    She won't leave office until after this November's election. Then she's done for good. Wonder if she'll have anything to say?

    Better question: will the next one NOT be a hand-picked successor. As anyone who has read PMPT and ST's book knows, it's essentially a one-party socialist dictatorship in Boulder. Mary Lacy was the handpicked successor to Alex Hunter (who has finally lost faith in her, if his "turn it back over to the police" statement is any indication). Time to get some REAL democracy in there!
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    I am not so sure there would be any point to exhumation now, at almost 11 years after burial. While adult embalmed bodies take about 10 years to be reduced to skeletal remains, a child may take much less, maybe about 5 years. There may not be soft tissue left. Of course, this is variable and subject to many factors affecting it, from climate and soil conditions to cause of death. I'd feel it's worth a try, but you'll never get that exhumation order with the DA in power now.
    But the Rs didn't really mean they didn't want to exhume because their daughter was "at rest". What they really meant was that they wanted any evidence on the body that may point to them to remain at rest!
    As distasteful as an exhumation is, had it been done relatively soon after burial, there would certainly have been more information to gather. For one thing, the "stun-gun" question could have been investigated and possibly settled one way or they other.
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    Quote Originally Posted by heymom
    Let me know when Hell freezes over, won't you?
    Yeah, I guess that one's a little unrealistic.
    They should all drown in lakes of blood. Now they will know why they are afraid of the dark. Now they will learn why they fear the night.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Punisher
    She won't leave office until after this November's election. Then she's done for good. Wonder if she'll have anything to say?

    Better question: will the next one NOT be a hand-picked successor. As anyone who has read PMPT and ST's book knows, it's essentially a one-party socialist dictatorship in Boulder. Mary Lacy was the handpicked successor to Alex Hunter (who has finally lost faith in her, if his "turn it back over to the police" statement is any indication). Time to get some REAL democracy in there!
    I read recently that December 31st is her last day! I would LOVE to have one of those countdown tickers here (HINT, HINT) to mark off the days!
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    "What happens is that evil comes in," Fleet says. "If you don't have truth, all you have are lies, then what comes in is evil. And evil just does its thing. In the Ramsey case, it just did its thing, and it's eaten up so many people."



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