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    The beauty of having the ability to convince yourself that by saying "oh, look, an anonymous package here in my filing cabinet" is that you can also hide your own Easter eggs and believe that the bunny really did bring them just for you because you are soooo special.

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    Talking

    I just started reading her threads over "there" about FW's depo... here's something I found interesting:

    I never reveal my sources. Sorry.

    At this time, for reasons I will not explain, I can't publish the entire deposition. But I assure you, nothing has been taken out of context and I am doing nothing to bias the discussion.

    Candy - nah, I'm not so dumb. But you are if you think anyone is trying to "screw" Fleet by sharing this information. Remember, I don't think he is involved at all. I see nothing he can gain or lose by this information being made public.

    I sure don't think releasing this information sets him up for any perjury rap. Ihave no reason to think he is about to lie about anything. (Sometimes you do seem a bit like a troublemaker with your suggestions.)

    Yes, his deposition didn't help Chris Wolf's case - because Chris Wolf's case was a crock of feces to begin with. We all knew it then and nothing, including releasing this deposition, will change that.

    Also, I think it is important to say - - I didn't see where Fleet White was ever IN CONTEMPT. I think you should not be so quick to condemn when you don't know what you are talking about.


    and on a previous post:

    There is a lot more to come - lots of details - and I think most of us won't be surprised to see Fleet NEVER accused the Ramseys. But it can't hurt to document those facts.

    hmmm... lots of details - wonder WHY she just won't let us know ALL of it... yes, yes, I know hir HAS to be in charge!! LOL!

    okay - will continue reading over there... I did notice one of the threads was shorter than when I printed it out a few days ago. She must have deleted someone's post... LOL!

    If I find anything more of interest - I'll post it here! OR is this
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    She does say:

    But I would love to know his theory, even after all these years, he may have some insight we do not.

    That's true! I'd sure like to hear what Fleet has to say and his theory!!
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    Cool Which one is it, John?!

    COURIC: And yet the Ramseys' relationship with one of their closest friends came to an odd and troubling end. Let me ask you about your close friend Fleet White, because that's one of these strange sort of areas in this case. You spent Christmas day together. He was with you when you found JonBenet's body. And yet, just a week later, it was reported that he got angry at you for hiring lawyers and not cooperating more with the police, and you haven't spoken since. And, in fact, he's twice asked the governor's office to appoint a--a special prosecutor to further investigate you. So a man who used to be your best friend is behaving this way. What gives?

    Mr. RAMSEY: The best that I can figure, and we know this has happened to other people who've told us this, the police will go to our friends and say, 'Katie, the Ramseys think you had something to do with the death of their daughter. Would you talk to us?' I believe that they did that to Fleet White.

    COURIC: It sounds at face value that he thinks you were involved.

    Ms. RAMSEY: I don't know--we...

    Mr. RAMSEY: I can't...

    Ms. RAMSEY: We can't explain it.

    Mr. RAMSEY: I can't accept that.

    COURIC: Do you think he could have been involved in this at all?

    Mr. RAMSEY: No, I don't.

    Ms. RAMSEY: I don't believe that.

    Mr. RAMSEY: They had a nice family. We spent lots of time together, our families did.

    http://thewebsafe.tripod.com/03232000ramseytodaypt4.htm

    Or this?!

    8 LOU SMIT: When you get back to Atlanta,

    9 and I have a few more questions, so just hold on.

    10 When you get to Atlanta, and then you (INAUDIBLE)

    11 for some time in Atlanta you have that conflict

    12 between White. And I know you were probably good

    13 friends --

    14 JOHN RAMSEY: Um hmm.

    15 LOU SMIT: -- at some particular point.

    16 Just what caused this? Do you know Fleet that

    17 well?

    18 JOHN RAMSEY: No. I thought I did. We knew

    19 him for three years, or two years; two or three

    20 years. We sailed together under some fairly

    21 adverse circumstances. Fleet was always -- got to

    22 know each other. We talked a lot, but it was

    23 always about sailing. He kind of got me on that.

    24 (INAUDIBLE).

    25 But Fleet was, and some of this is in retrospect,

    1 but apparently John Fernie wouldn't let him get on

    2 the plane. He was going to (INAUDIBLE) while he

    3 was flying back to Atlanta and John Fernie

    4 wouldn't let him get on the airplane. We were told

    5 because he was just crazy.

    http://www.jonbenetindexguide.com/19...w-Complete.htm

    JOHN RAMSEY: No. I doubt it. At least,

    20 I don't remember. Fleet uses your name a lot. John

    21 this, John this. And that's unusual. And that was

    22 my only impression. I didn't think a whole lot.

    23 Fleet and Priscilla, we thought were our closest

    24 friends. So that's a bizarre thought. But it was a

    25 thought.
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    "Justice hasn't had a chance so far. Anyone who doesn't have this as their prime goal, we'll have a falling out with." Fleet White - Time Magazine

    "What happens is that evil comes in," Fleet says. "If you don't have truth, all you have are lies, then what comes in is evil. And evil just does its thing. In the Ramsey case, it just did its thing, and it's eaten up so many people."

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    MIKE KANE: What about Priscilla? I think

    10 you said (INAUDIBLE)?

    11 JOHN RAMSEY: Always when there was tending

    12 to the children, he was the mom. I mean, he took

    13 care of the kids. He was a stay home dad. He

    14 wanted to have more kids and Priscilla didn't want

    15 to have anything to do with it. He just seemed

    16 very attentive to the kids.

    17 (INAUDIBLE) if I narrowed that box down any

    18 further to, I would pick Priscilla.

    19 MIKE KANE: You think she was less (INAUDIBLE)?

    20 JOHN RAMSEY: Only because it would be

    21 very hard for me to believe that Fleet would do

    22 such a thing.

    23 MIKE KANE: You're saying that it wouldn't

    24 be hard that Priscilla would though?

    25 JOHN RAMSEY: Less hard. And there's a lot

    1 of data that flowed in afterwards to us from

    2 friends that said, you know, Priscilla was very

    3 jealous of Patsy. And they made a comment that

    4 they'd rather eat glass than live in a house like

    5 Rod Westmoreland's. It was hatred for wealth. It

    6 was like strange stuff that was coming out, coming

    7 back.

    8 MIKE KANE: Is Fleet wealthy?

    9 JOHN RAMSEY: Fleet? I don't have a clue.
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    "Although no one is anticipating a prompt resolution to this long and much-detoured case, perhaps - just perhaps - might we see one of those moments “when a chance arrow of history scores a perfect bullseye on a deserving target”? Steve Thomas 2009

    "Justice hasn't had a chance so far. Anyone who doesn't have this as their prime goal, we'll have a falling out with." Fleet White - Time Magazine

    "What happens is that evil comes in," Fleet says. "If you don't have truth, all you have are lies, then what comes in is evil. And evil just does its thing. In the Ramsey case, it just did its thing, and it's eaten up so many people."

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    Obviously, jams doesn't WANT people to see Fleet's story about the argument between John and him after the funeral. Obviously, we SHOULD see it, if we want the UNVARNISHED, UNSPUN TRUTH.

    But jams won't have THAT, will she?

    [Edited to add "Never mind." It's early to be trying to decipher the swampsters.]

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    Apparently another thing it can buy is an apology for even being suspected of a crime you probably already would have been convicted of committing if you happened to be poor.'"
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    Quote Originally Posted by RiverRat
    And they made a comment that

    4 they'd rather eat glass than live in a house like

    5 Rod Westmoreland's.
    It was hatred for wealth. It

    6 was like strange stuff that was coming out, coming

    7 back.

    8 MIKE KANE: Is Fleet wealthy?

    9 JOHN RAMSEY: Fleet? I don't have a clue.
    Maybe Rod Westmoreland had Patsy's taste in decorating and THAT was why Fleet and Priscilla said they would eat glass rather than live in a house like that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RiverRat
    COURIC: And yet the Ramseys' relationship with one of their closest friends came to an odd and troubling end. Let me ask you about your close friend Fleet White, because that's one of these strange sort of areas in this case. You spent Christmas day together. He was with you when you found JonBenet's body. And yet, just a week later, it was reported that he got angry at you for hiring lawyers and not cooperating more with the police, and you haven't spoken since. And, in fact, he's twice asked the governor's office to appoint a--a special prosecutor to further investigate you. So a man who used to be your best friend is behaving this way. What gives?

    Mr. RAMSEY: The best that I can figure, and we know this has happened to other people who've told us this, the police will go to our friends and say, 'Katie, the Ramseys think you had something to do with the death of their daughter. Would you talk to us?' I believe that they did that to Fleet White. Of course, that was directly AFTER I had thrown Fleet and Priscilla under the bus to throw suspicion away from Patsy and I, but still....the police should have known better. And why didn't Fleet understand that I HAD to point the finger of guilt at him, and why wouldn't he still be my best friend after that? I was his best contact with the world of wealth, after all -
    Just a small revision in John's response...
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    That's the way I see it too....Jameson is an idiot...

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    did you all see Jams message to Fleet?? just in case some of you actually do NOT want to venture into the swamp.... here it is:

    (Message to Fleet, who I feel sure will be reading this. If you want to talk to me, please get my private number from Lin Wood and call. If you want the threads removed, just ask and it will be done. But I honestly believe you will not make the call. You said nothing wrong - and for JonBenet's sake it is time the truth was told.

    I hope this will put a lot of myths to bed - and that the vicious attacks on the White family that took place because somany really didn't understand so questioned - - I hope my efforts here end those discussions.

    As for me, I can say that my questions about the guests who were at the White house that holiday have been put to rest. Your testimony assured me they were carefully checked out.


    and here's an interesting tidbit - and since I'm NOT supposed to type the exact words of this transcript - don't want to get anyone in trouble - so I'll paraphrase. Fleet is asked about Arndt saying - I want you, John to start at the top of the house and work your way to the bottom - that was NEVER said by Arndt per Fleet. He (Fleet) just remembers John going to the basement and he followed him there.

    and at the end of Depo 2:
    Still wish he would post on the forum, this one or another - tell his story. But I understand his hesitation. Honest. this is per Jams.

    LOL! Liek he's going to pay her 50 bucks to post at hir forum??!!

    anyway... carry on...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Niner
    did you all see Jams message to Fleet?? just in case some of you actually do NOT want to venture into the swamp.... here it is:

    (Message to Fleet, who I feel sure will be reading this. If you want to talk to me, please get my private number from Lin Wood and call. If you want the threads removed, just ask and it will be done. But I honestly believe you will not make the call. You said nothing wrong - and for JonBenet's sake it is time the truth was told.

    I hope this will put a lot of myths to bed - and that the vicious attacks on the White family that took place because somany really didn't understand so questioned - - I hope my efforts here end those discussions.

    As for me, I can say that my questions about the guests who were at the White house that holiday have been put to rest. Your testimony assured me they were carefully checked out.


    and here's an interesting tidbit - and since I'm NOT supposed to type the exact words of this transcript - don't want to get anyone in trouble - so I'll paraphrase. Fleet is asked about Arndt saying - I want you, John to start at the top of the house and work your way to the bottom - that was NEVER said by Arndt per Fleet. He (Fleet) just remembers John going to the basement and he followed him there.

    and at the end of Depo 2:
    Still wish he would post on the forum, this one or another - tell his story. But I understand his hesitation. Honest. this is per Jams.

    LOL! Liek he's going to pay her 50 bucks to post at hir forum??!!

    anyway... carry on...

    Methinks the .... er ...s/him doth protest too much.... or grovel too much.... "I'M not the one disparaging and slandering you, Mr. White, not ME, it was these OTHER people on the forum, never ME....I LOVE you guys and will do anything you say, sir."

    What pure unadulterated HORSE CRAP!
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    Strange John Ramsey trusted Fleet White with his son when he was rushing him out the door the morning of the 26 December, 1996. This doesn't make much sense to me. Almost as if he expected Fleet to support him all the way with how he dealt with talking to the police etc. He was none too happy when Fleet asked him to return to Boulder and talk to the police.
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