Weird quote from DOI

My dad recently loaned me a copy of doi that a neighbor of his had purchased for only $4.00. I have never read it because I refuse to buy the book but am now trying to wade through it. (pretty hard to stomach it)

I ran across an interesting tidbit on page 197:
"..... I reached up and felt the chain around my neck. A friend had lovingly placed this cross, with a little pendant attached, around my neck sometime during the frenzy in Boulder after JonBenet's death.
As I felt the little charm attached to the cross, I wondered, what is that? I had never looked closely at the pendant.
When I got back into the house, I looked at the charm up close in the mirror. It was a tiny porcelain figure of the baby Jesus and his mother, Mary. I felt a warm flush and tingling come over me as I stood in front of the mirror. Suddenly I had this immediate empathy with Mary. I thought to myself, She watched them kill her child. She lost a child too. Tears welled up in my eyes."

Am I crazy? I was wondering if she is simply saying the empathy comes from both of them losing a child or is it more than that and is there the implication that she saw her own child killed before her eyes? Too weird!


Also on page 253 they are talking about the police presentation to the DA's office and I saw this quote:
".... The case file contained thirty thousand pages of material and indicated that the police had investigated 119 possible suspects."

How in heck can they claim the police rushed to judgement and didn't check out leads that implicated other suspects?

edited because I pressed the enter key and posted before I finished this post.

 

That part about

"she watched them kill her child" really freaked me out when I read it, Texan. Like you, I was saying, what's she talking about - is she saying that she can emphasize because she (Patsy) watched "them" kill her child?

There are a lot of lies in that book, a lot of melodrama, and a lot of convoluting the facts. They have given versions of events that are completely opposite police reports and other witnesses' versions. If it happened once, one could say, well, maybe... but it happened several times in the book. ALL those other witnesses can't be wrong, and the Ramseys have excellent reasons to fudge the truth.

 

"Perfect Murder, Perfect Town" quotes from two of Thor's Posts...

PMPT paperback, page 52:

On the afternoon of December 27, when Pam Griffin got home from her interview with Detective Mason, she found a telephone message from Patsy's sister Polly. "Patsy needs you right now!" Polly had left directions to the Fernies' house.

At the Fernies', Pam and Kristine (Griffin) found that Patsy was overdosing on valium. She'd been taking the powerful tranquilizer every few hours and had probably lost track of the amount. Pam, a former registered nurse, touched Patsy's skin and realized she was dehydrated. She brought Patsy some water and made her drink it.

Later that afternoon, Kristine and Pam sat on either side of Patsy, holding her hands. "You Know," Patsy said quietly to Pam, as if she were telling someone for the first time, <b>"they've killed my baby."*</b> Pam noticed that Patsy used the word they.

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PMPT paperback pages 26-27:

At dusk, the Ramseys had their son, Burke, picked up from the Whites' house and he was brought to the Fernies' place in the Shanahan Ridge development on Table Mesa, below the foothills. There was room for all of them to stay overnight. The victim advocates, who had gone with them to the Fernies', left at 5:00 p.m. Shortly afterward, Detective Arndt left too. One patrol officer was left behind for security.

Michael Bynum, John Ramsey's close friend and corporate attorney, who had been away snowshoeing, now arrived at the Fernies' house. As he walked in, the family was kneeling in the living room praying with Rev. Hoverstock. Around 7:00 p.m., John Ramsey went for a walk with John Fernie and Dr. Francesco Beuf, JonBenet's physician, who had brought over some medication for Patsy. When they returned a half hour later, Ramsey asked Bynum to represent him.

<b>"I'm sorry, I'm so sorry,"*</b> Ramsey told his friends over and over. Then, just after 8:00, he left alone to take a walk in the nearby foothills.



* <i>Emphasis mine.</i>

 

Let me get this straight??

What I find strange is that Pam realizes that her sister is ODing on V's and doesn't seek medical help.

Why???

They got her water?? Come on! Is that what you would do?
I'd be heading towards the hospital.
Obviously if she is so distraught that she almost overdoses she needs help.

What the hell were these people thinking?

Editted for bad spelling

 

something to consider...

PR said "<i>They</i> killed my baby." Why is this seen as odd or suspicious? "They" is incorrectly used with singular referents very commonly - especially when one doesn't want to designate gender. Also, and more important IMO, is the fact that PR knew the ransom note purported to be from a group, not an individual. It is just as reasonable (more, perhaps) for her to use "they" than any other possible term.

JR kept saying "I'm sorry," which I think many here interpret as an indication of guilt. I agree it indicates guilt, but I suspect that guilt is more a matter of "I didn't hear her, I didn't protect her, I should have known" than "I killed her, or I was involved in her death."

If JR were involved in the murder, we know he was quite able to keep cool and avoid saying anything terribly incriminating all that long morning. If he was able to do that while enduring what would have to have been the horrible tension created by knowing JBR was dead in the basement and waiting for her to be discovered, why would he suddenly be spouting potentially incriminating things over and over again later that day?

 

Fly

At least a couple of books state JR was drinking. Maybe he isn't quite as calm, cool and collected after a couple of stiff ones?

 

perhaps

JR - Perhaps, but we've also heard he tossed back a couple of drinks that morning, right?

 

Fly

Exactly. So...perhaps he tossed back a couple off and on during the day and evening and well, loose lips sink ships and all that.

 

Also...

He was also taking valium, if I am not mistaken. I think it was in PMPT or ST's book. Scotch and valium, what a combo. Loose lips for sure!

Arma, good post about Patsy ODing. Especially, since Pam Griffen was a former nurse. BTW, welcome Arma!

 

Valium for JR?

I don't think so. Melatonin was the only "drug" I recall hearing about John that night/morning. I could be wrong.

Patsy was on drugs that morning and for days after, which is understandable. And puts the CNN appearance in a curious light.

 

Tricia...

Boy, you hit the nail right on the head there. She should have been at the police station instead of CNN answering questions. Or at the very least, talking to the police while they were in Atlanta.

I remember watching that interview. She was totally out of it. I also remember feeling the same way about Patsy as I felt about Susan Smith. That feeling was she knew more than she was telling.

Does anyone remember that mark John had on his face? (At the time of the CNN interview) It looked like a cut or something like that. I remember thinking that was suspicious too.

 

Tez: Here are links to photographs of John Ramsey...

...published some time after the murder:

<img src="http://www.justiceforjonbenet.org/images/scratch1.jpg"><img src="http://www.justiceforjonbenet.org/images/scar2.jpg">

 

would have been nice...

dunvegan - It would have been nice to have noted that the supposed "scar" or "scratch" is pretty clearly a "sunspot," "age spot," "liver spot," not something he got during the murder as the tabs wanted us to believe.

You've been around long enough, and I'm sure you've seen enough of the interviews, to know at this point that the tabloid was off in left field on this one.

This spot is a non-issue. Period. It isn't a scar. It isn't a scratch. It's an irregularly pigmented area common on the skins of people above the age of 40 or 50.

 

Thanks Dun...

Sorry Fly, to me it doesn't look like an age spot. It certainly didn't on the CNN interview. Plus, they had make-up artists that could have fixed it.

I was trying to remember other things that bothered me from the famous CNN interview. Does anyone have the link so that I could watch it on my computer? Or is it viewable that way? Maybe, a link to the transcript? Thanks in advance!

Thanks again, Dun! You are wonderful!

Tez

 

Tez

Tez - I promise you, it is an age spot. It has been visible in photos/interviews off and on through the case. I'm pretty sure it is even visible in some pictures taken before JBR's murder. Sometimes it is more visible than others - probably depending on his facial expression, the lighting, the overall color of his skin, even maybe makeup as you suggest, etc. But it has been quite visible even in photos/videos taken years after the murder. It is not a scar or a scratch.

Even if we all accept that the BPD royally screwed up that first day, surely you don't believe that they would have ignored and never mentioned a significant scratch on his face! Especially given that at least some of the cops initially were pretty convinced JR was the killer.

 

I'm with Fly on this one. It looks photographically enhanced too. As a person who has done unmentionable things to pics of poor Patsy in Photoshop myself, I should know.

 

Not only that Moab but the cops noticed nothing unusual on him or Patsy when they collected their non-testimonail evidence.

 

Patsy also said ...

While Patsy was out of it with whatever tranquilizers she was given by Dr. Beuf on the 26 December, she was also heard saying.."We didn't mean for this to happen." I wonder what she meant by this statement(?).