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    Quote Originally Posted by Jayelles View Post
    If he's a 47 year old virgin then he only has himself to blame
    Did Shill say that on Topix? LOL!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jayelles View Post
    I saw Shill's meltdown at Topix. Poor sod must have been up half the night. Often, he is still online early in the morning when I log on but not for long. Today he was still online when I'd had lunch!

    You've been very hard on him Solace, but I find it hard to stay sorry for him when I remember that this guy is a merciless bully who has caused numerous decent posters to leave CL/Sycamore with his vile comments and snide personal attacks. Then, not even content with that, he has a history of following his "target" to another forum to continue with the harassment (which take the form of posts and horrible pms). Those who have see this at close hand won't be taken in by the "little hurt boy" act he's giving now.

    I've seen photos of him and I don't think he's that bad looking actually but what makes him singularly unattractive is his vile creepiness. Reading his accusations against you for using different hats you'd thnk he was a paragon of virtue in this respect. However, let's not forget the FACT that he used the alter "Toaster" at WS both to slam the Ramseys and accuse John Ramsey of sexually abusing JonBenet (described in such detail that the posts had to be deleted quickly) and to continue harassing ColoradoKares when she left CL to get away from him. He was soon banned for even the most die-hard RDis were left speechless with his level of hatred towards John Ramsey. Shill then denied he was Toaster for many months and sneered and personally attacked those who said he was (backed up by members of his harem). He even stooped so low as to accuse me of being Toaster before he finally admitted that it had been him all along. When exposed, he said it had been "a joke". This is a classic response from abusers. Not content with hurting others, they then blame their victims for not being able to "take a joke".

    I know of posters who have received threatening pms from new hats at Sycamore and CL and who suspect Shill of being behind them too.

    If he's a 47 year old virgin then he only has himself to blame because his vile posts and hat games are downright creepy and nothing is more repulsive than a creepy man. Ugly is better than creepy. Poor is better than creepy. Creepy is the bottom of the pile. Think of the parallels between someone sending anonymous threatening pms and making anonymous threatening phone calls. Think of the parallels between someone hiding behind an anonymous hat in order to make shocking posts - and a flasher. (Dr) Glenn Wilson once told me that rapists often start as peeping toms or heavy breathers and that effectively, this is the "courtship" phase of their sexually deviant behaviour. They are unable to form normal, satisfying relationships and so they do creepy things instead.

    IMO, Shill uses the Ramsey case as an excuse to intimidate women. Whether he posts as Shill to bully the RDIs or Toaster to bully the IDIs is irrelevent to him. The fact that he disregards the authority of Admin/Mods is also telling (and note that these are women). This behaviour isn't at all attractive and that is why most of us simply cannot fathom his appeal to FW, Athena, LindaA and co unless it is for the simple reason that they love the fact that he says vile things to people they dislike - or perhaps they are the type of women who like abusive men. What does it say about them? I'm afraid creepy isn't my thing. There aren't that many men participating on the Ramsey forums ... and even fewer who will participate in discussions about pageants and little girls' underwear. However, if you consider the men on the forums, I'd say the one who seems to have the most widespread appeal is the rather lovable Mikie. We might ridicule his theories but most of us agree that he's sweet and gentle and utterly inoffensive - the complete opposite of the vile Shill.
    Great post Jayelles and right on the money. He had the audacity to call Colorado, send her pms and scare her. I have been easy on this slime. He is never going to get away with that crap again. There are some whackos on these boards and we all know who they are, but I have yet to see anyone live up to Shill's mo or should I say down. He folds like the coward he is. He can either start getting respectful or I can accommodate him any time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rashomon View Post
    Did Shill say that on Topix? LOL!
    I don't know - did he say that? He posts such a lot of garbage nothing would surprise me. I didn't see him post that - my comment was facetious. He has a habit of making posts expressing outrage at the things he does himself. I'm not quiet sure whether this is part of the game or if he's completely out of touch with reality. Do you remember the character who posted under multiple nics including Freefalling? Well his/her behaviour on the forums was pretty alarming - especially for those wh were objects of the obsessions. Anyway, I watched a documentary a year or so ago about schizophrenia and could completely relate the behaviours exhibited on the programme to Freefalling/multi-nic's behaviour on the forums. There was one very sad case on the programme, a female lawyer and she had obsessions with certain people and would call them up literally hundreds of times per day. However, when she was interviewed, she told the interviewer that the person SHE was harassing was harassing HER! She said this person was phoning her up all the time, but the hidden cameras showed that it was her who was doing precisely what she was accusing others of doing. It was very sad, but a fascinating insight into mental illness.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sboyd View Post
    Great post Jayelles and right on the money. He had the audacity to call Colorado, send her pms and scare her. I have been easy on this slime. He is never going to get away with that crap again. There are some whackos on these boards and we all know who they are, but I have yet to see anyone live up to Shill's mo or should I say down. He folds like the coward he is. He can either start getting respectful or I can accommodate him any time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jayelles View Post
    I don't know - did he say that? He posts such a lot of garbage nothing would surprise me. I didn't see him post that - my comment was facetious. He has a habit of making posts expressing outrage at the things he does himself. I'm not quiet sure whether this is part of the game or if he's completely out of touch with reality. Do you remember the character who posted under multiple nics including Freefalling? Well his/her behaviour on the forums was pretty alarming - especially for those wh were objects of the obsessions. Anyway, I watched a documentary a year or so ago about schizophrenia and could completely relate the behaviours exhibited on the programme to Freefalling/multi-nic's behaviour on the forums. There was one very sad case on the programme, a female lawyer and she had obsessions with certain people and would call them up literally hundreds of times per day. However, when she was interviewed, she told the interviewer that the person SHE was harassing was harassing HER! She said this person was phoning her up all the time, but the hidden cameras showed that it was her who was doing precisely what she was accusing others of doing. It was very sad, but a fascinating insight into mental illness.
    Did you get the impression that the woman REALLY believed she was being called? Serious question.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jayelles View Post
    If he harasses her he can be reported.
    he wont anymore. Cowards never do when they are outed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sboyd View Post
    Did you get the impression that the woman REALLY believed she was being called? Serious question.

    It was a tragic story because she had been a highly specialised lawyer and there was something else about her which I can't remember the details of but it was to do with sport - she was a superb sportswoman (I just don't recall the sport). She was fit and not unattractive but completely able to function in the world now because of her delusions. It showed you her going into a supermarket and wandering over to the fruit and veg counter. She then started to death stare another customer and she literally stood there staring at this guy until he eventualy lifted his head and looked back in her direction then she screamed at him "What are you staring at?". She was pretty convincing when she told interviewers about the person who was stalking her and calling her all the time - in fact, the programme showed her interview first and then the voiceover told viewers that it was actually the other way around and that it was her who was harassing the other person. A friend or relative was interviewed too and this person described how she harassed other people and then accused them of doing the harassing. The lawyer completely denied that she was doing it and said it was a pack of lies. I can imagine how someone like that could make a sane person think they were going off their rocker though. There have been times when I've witnessed it on the forums and I really wonder what these people must be like in real life - are their families aware of their behaviour (and if so, do they care?).

    I think Shill is probably aware of what he's doing. I think he's probably just a dishonest bully. What I cannot figure out is the kind of women who facilitate him and support him.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jayelles View Post
    I saw Shill's meltdown at Topix. Poor sod must have been up half the night. Often, he is still online early in the morning when I log on but not for long. Today he was still online when I'd had lunch!

    You've been very hard on him Solace, but I find it hard to stay sorry for him when I remember that this guy is a merciless bully who has caused numerous decent posters to leave CL/Sycamore with his vile comments and snide personal attacks. Then, not even content with that, he has a history of following his "target" to another forum to continue with the harassment (which take the form of posts and horrible pms). Those who have see this at close hand won't be taken in by the "little hurt boy" act he's giving now.

    I've seen photos of him and I don't think he's that bad looking actually but what makes him singularly unattractive is his vile creepiness. Reading his accusations against you for using different hats you'd thnk he was a paragon of virtue in this respect. However, let's not forget the FACT that he used the alter "Toaster" at WS both to slam the Ramseys and accuse John Ramsey of sexually abusing JonBenet (described in such detail that the posts had to be deleted quickly) and to continue harassing ColoradoKares when she left CL to get away from him. He was soon banned for even the most die-hard RDis were left speechless with his level of hatred towards John Ramsey. Shill then denied he was Toaster for many months and sneered and personally attacked those who said he was (backed up by members of his harem). He even stooped so low as to accuse me of being Toaster before he finally admitted that it had been him all along. When exposed, he said it had been "a joke". This is a classic response from abusers. Not content with hurting others, they then blame their victims for not being able to "take a joke".

    I know of posters who have received threatening pms from new hats at Sycamore and CL and who suspect Shill of being behind them too.

    If he's a 47 year old virgin then he only has himself to blame because his vile posts and hat games are downright creepy and nothing is more repulsive than a creepy man. Ugly is better than creepy. Poor is better than creepy. Creepy is the bottom of the pile. Think of the parallels between someone sending anonymous threatening pms and making anonymous threatening phone calls. Think of the parallels between someone hiding behind an anonymous hat in order to make shocking posts - and a flasher. (Dr) Glenn Wilson once told me that rapists often start as peeping toms or heavy breathers and that effectively, this is the "courtship" phase of their sexually deviant behaviour. They are unable to form normal, satisfying relationships and so they do creepy things instead.

    IMO, Shill uses the Ramsey case as an excuse to intimidate women. Whether he posts as Shill to bully the RDIs or Toaster to bully the IDIs is irrelevent to him. The fact that he disregards the authority of Admin/Mods is also telling (and note that these are women). This behaviour isn't at all attractive and that is why most of us simply cannot fathom his appeal to FW, Athena, LindaA and co unless it is for the simple reason that they love the fact that he says vile things to people they dislike - or perhaps they are the type of women who like abusive men. What does it say about them? I'm afraid creepy isn't my thing. There aren't that many men participating on the Ramsey forums ... and even fewer who will participate in discussions about pageants and little girls' underwear. However, if you consider the men on the forums, I'd say the one who seems to have the most widespread appeal is the rather lovable Mikie. We might ridicule his theories but most of us agree that he's sweet and gentle and utterly inoffensive - the complete opposite of the vile Shill.
    Jayelles,

    I just read your "thoughtful" post and it is exactly that. You have him "down" and you have the women who defend him "down" also. And you are so right about Mikie. I remember posting on CL a list of the "out there" theories and there were the usual suspecits, but I forgot Mikie. And he posted "what about my theory". I then included him. He is totally endearing. And so is Colorado and that is why I am hard on Shill because she is as endearing to me as Miki. If he could, right now, and he may still, he would be posting the lowest of the low and pictures to go along.

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    Speaking of internet lunatics, and the lowest of the low in internet behavior, there's the Butts itsybitsy, her husband and their family of sickHicks. And I remember Freefalling. I was duped. :stupid1:

    This is off topic, but I was reading on the topix site the other day and Nelly asked about it being announced early on that Karr's dna matched that on JBR ~ Justice Seeker posted that it matched, said it was on MSNBC. Her post is on an old thread there.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jayelles View Post
    It was a tragic story because she had been a highly specialised lawyer and there was something else about her which I can't remember the details of but it was to do with sport - she was a superb sportswoman (I just don't recall the sport). She was fit and not unattractive but completely able to function in the world now because of her delusions. It showed you her going into a supermarket and wandering over to the fruit and veg counter. She then started to death stare another customer and she literally stood there staring at this guy until he eventualy lifted his head and looked back in her direction then she screamed at him "What are you staring at?". She was pretty convincing when she told interviewers about the person who was stalking her and calling her all the time - in fact, the programme showed her interview first and then the voiceover told viewers that it was actually the other way around and that it was her who was harassing the other person. A friend or relative was interviewed too and this person described how she harassed other people and then accused them of doing the harassing. The lawyer completely denied that she was doing it and said it was a pack of lies. I can imagine how someone like that could make a sane person think they were going off their rocker though. There have been times when I've witnessed it on the forums and I really wonder what these people must be like in real life - are their families aware of their behaviour (and if so, do they care?).


    I think Shill is probably aware of what he's doing. I think he's probably just a dishonest bully. What I cannot figure out is the kind of women who facilitate him and support him.
    Shill is very much aware of what he is doing. He truly is a sadistic person, who naturally runs and hides when he is confronted and then asks the confrontee how did you get so dark. That is rich, coming from this idiot.

    Re your reply: It has to be associated with schizophrenia - you can't get much worse than that. Was talking to someone at work re a colleague's daughter who dropped out of Dartmouth in her first year because she was hearing voices. Never heard them before. But it has stayed with her and she is not yet able to work a full day. Forget about school.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sboyd View Post
    Shill is very much aware of what he is doing. He truly is a sadistic person, who naturally runs and hides when he is confronted and then asks the confrontee how did you get so dark. That is rich, coming from this idiot.

    Sadly, there are some who are taken in by his "innocent little hurt boy" act - abusive men often use that tactic when called to answer for their actions.

    He posted this at Topix:-

    But alas, at Topix there are a gang of posters here who could care less about hearing what I have to add to conversations and are just bent on my destruction, that makes it next to impossible for me to contribute to a conversation here, but I am fascinated with your theory.
    No. What people care less about hearing are his vile personal attacks on anyone who isn't on the side he is part of at that particular moment (or on that particular board). Practically every post he makes contains a barb at the RDI (or IDI if we are talking about WS). He seems incapable of discussing the case or of responding to someone else's post without including a personal attack on the person's intelligence or motives for making their post and it grows very, very tired. It distracts from the discussions (perhaps that's his intention).

    I don't really think his harem like him personally - they certainly wouldn't like it if they were on the receiving end of his barbs (and know knows - maybe they are because we know Shill uses different hats and plays both sides of the discussion). What his harem like is the fact that he says really vile things to the people THEY don't like. They enjoy it. That's all. The very fact that they were all desperate for him to join Sycamore said it all. How they missed him, how they'd been emailing him trying to get him to join there.... Not one of them said the same for Bullmoose (until it was pointed out that they hadn't) - but then Bullmoose doesn't make dreadful personal attacks on the RDI! Shill, who is incapable of making a post without a personal attack against the RDI was treated like a hero by a certain group of women.

    There are a couple of posters coming to his defence at Topix. One is surely oblivious to Shill's history and has been shocked by CynBenet's remarks into jumping to his defence. The other is almost certainly one of his buddies from Sycamore. The fact that Shills says to her:-

    Oh, and beware, you are now a target for them.
    They don't believe anyone could have an non-bias opinion of me, so they will surely accuse you of being some type of groupie of mine.
    ...is almost certainly a double bluff and a tactic I've seen before. He wants unsuspecting readers to think this person is NOT one of his molls but an unsuspecting bystander who has been made a "target" for defending an innocent man (thus proving how evil his accusers are).

    The mere fact that Shill's harem have stood by him DESPITE him (finally) admitting to having made the vilest of all anti-Ramsey posts at Websleuths kind of says it all for me. They stood by him despite the fact that he was exposed as a liar and a player of games. At that time, he accused me of having been Toaster and he accused me of being the liar and the player of games. Right now, he is accusing Cynbenet of having sent him certain pms. I'm willing to bet that's a lie too.

    How ANYONE can defend his behaviour just beggars belief.
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    This almost beggars belief:-

    Shill at Topix:-
    Did it ever occur to your that your aneurysms might be God's punishment to you for showing such hatred towards innocent parents who have suffered enough with out the vile attacks on them by you and other posters?It's posters like you that have continued to destroy the Ramseys life even after a male intruder destroyed their lives by taking their precious little girl.
    Shill is the poster who as Toaster at Websleuths posted THE most unspeakably anti-Ramsey hate to the extent that he shocked even the most die-hard RDI members there! He posted in detail what he thought John Ramsey had done (sexually) to JonBenet and said he thought John Ramsey was a satanist.

    Those posts were proof of how vile Shill is. he has an utter cheek to accuse any RDI of "spewing hate" when he was the wrost offender of all. He said his Toaster stint was "a joke" but this just proves how abusive this man is if he can do such vile things in the name of fun.
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