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    Quote Originally Posted by koldkase View Post

    Social Services here can be called in because children who are not being properly supervised by a parent or guardian are neglected. If Burke had some involvement in the acts of violence and/or molestation on JonBenet, he might have been a minor, but they were acts which would be addressed by some government agency, would they not?
    I believe social services can intervene regardless of the child's age. The age inference in this case, Burke at age 9, was a reference only as to whether or not he could legally be charged with a crime, and he could not. Colorado, as a state, does not prosecute under the age of 10, so Burke was in the clear from their standpoint whether innocent or actual guilt on his part. Social services would have a case if they could prove neglect or harm against any age child...at least I think that is the way it goes, at least for removal of the child from the household.
    It's probably too late to get justice for JonBenét. Maybe it always was. But knowing where things went wrong is the first step to not going there again. **-- Alan Prendergast-Dec 21, 2006--**

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    Thanks, Moab.

    But didn't Colorado change the age limit for criminal behavior for which children can be held responsible since then, lowering it? I'm thinking they did, but do not ask me for my source! I'm pulling a Patsy: I can't remember.

    "University of Colorado Law Professor Paul Campos declared the letter a 'reckless exoneration.' He went on to state, 'Everyone knows that relative immunity from criminal conviction is something money can buy.
    Apparently another thing it can buy is an apology for even being suspected of a crime you probably already would have been convicted of committing if you happened to be poor.'"
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    Quote Originally Posted by koldkase View Post
    Thanks, Moab.

    But didn't Colorado change the age limit for criminal behavior for which children can be held responsible since then, lowering it? I'm thinking they did, but do not ask me for my source! I'm pulling a Patsy: I can't remember.
    I don't think so KK, I think it is still 10.
    It's probably too late to get justice for JonBenét. Maybe it always was. But knowing where things went wrong is the first step to not going there again. **-- Alan Prendergast-Dec 21, 2006--**

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    And now that I'm revisiting this topic, doesn't this seem that Haney is saying LE FOUND URINE SPOTS ON THE SHEETS?

    And boy, how did Patsy remember she CHECKED THE SHEETS that morning, when she couldn't remember so many other IMPORTANT details around the time of the murder?

    Not to mention, if JB wore those PINK PJ'S we see her wearing in the Christmas photo that morning, which Patsy herself brings up, where were those bottoms the next day when LE was photographing the crime scene? We can see the PJ top at the head of the bed on the mattress...but where are the BOTTOMS?

    12 TOM HANEY: Do you recall if she

    13 wet the bed on Christmas Eve, to Christmas

    14 morning?

    15 PATSY RAMSEY: No, no, she did

    16 not.


    17 TOM HANEY: How about going back

    18 from then, from Christmas morning, do you recall

    19 when the last time she was wet?
    Because we

    20 talked yesterday about the changing of the

    21 linen, the sheets, and we couldn't really pin

    22 that down.

    23 PATSY RAMSEY: Right.

    24 TOM HANEY: Okay. But if there

    25 were several stains on there and we figured it

    0568

    1 was around, if the maximum a week since the

    2 linen was changed, would that indicate to you

    3 wetting more than once, or--


    4 PATSY RAMSEY: Well, that was

    5 (INAUDIBLE).

    6 TOM HANEY: Right we were looking

    7 at the pillow case, but we were also talking

    8 about all of the bedding and how often it got

    9 laundered and--

    10 PATSY RAMSEY: Well, that got

    11 changed once a week, unless she wet the bed and

    12 then of course it would be changed, you know.

    13 TOM HANEY: Did you check the bed

    14 on say Christmas day, morning?

    15 PATSY RAMSEY: Yeah. (INAUDIBLE).

    16 TOM HANEY: Okay. But you

    17 distinctly remember going and checking on that?

    18 PATSY RAMSEY: Plus she had her

    19 pink pajamas on that she had put on the night

    20 before. If she had wet it would have been

    21 soaking wet and she wouldn't have had those on

    22 in the Christmas picture, so --


    23 TOM HANEY: Okay. If that's what

    24 she, and you say that's what she wore to bed the

    25 night before?

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    1 PATSY RAMSEY: Yes.
    Patsy brings UP the Christmas picture. She was lying again, wasn't she? She didn't remember checking those sheets that morning, did she? Patsy was tap dancing for Haney as fast as she could.

    "University of Colorado Law Professor Paul Campos declared the letter a 'reckless exoneration.' He went on to state, 'Everyone knows that relative immunity from criminal conviction is something money can buy.
    Apparently another thing it can buy is an apology for even being suspected of a crime you probably already would have been convicted of committing if you happened to be poor.'"
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    Quote Originally Posted by madeleine_ws View Post
    Found it

    http://www.acandyrose.com/03312003carnes11-20.htm

    A "Barbie" nightgown belonging to JonBenet was also found in the wine cellar near her body. (SMF 149: PSMF 149.) JonBenet's blood was found only on her body and the Barbie nightgown. (SMF 150; PSMF 150.)
    Thank you, madeleine! A great find. What would we do without ACandyRose?
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