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Thread: Pineapple and cream
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October 5, 2009, 5:44 pm, Mon Oct 5 17:44:36 UTC 2009 #85
I also think Patsy's need for theater dictated that JonBenet must have died on Christmas Day, not Boxing Day (they would not have known what that was, but that's 12/26 in the UK). Patsy would enjoy in a twisted way, the further sympathy she could get for losing her daughter on that most special day.
They both certainly knew when JonBenet was killed."We're not necessarily doubting that God will do the best for us; we are wondering how painful the best will turn out to be." - C.S. Lewis
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October 5, 2009, 5:49 pm, Mon Oct 5 17:49:09 UTC 2009 #86
I just want to say how awesome it is that you were able to carry out this experiment. I read KK's posts from this thread and am amazed and excited to have you over here on FFJ. I want to leave a bowl of pineapple out in the open to see what might happen to it, but of course my problem is that I live in the deep South where there is a LOT more humidity and mold than there is up in Boulder! My pineapple will be GREEN and fuzzy in no time!
I may wait until December when the climate is closer to that of Colorado...I'll put out the cream/pineapple combo and plain pineapple and we'll see what happens in 24 hours or so. Thank you so much for your interest in this case.
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October 5, 2009, 10:45 pm, Mon Oct 5 22:45:56 UTC 2009 #87
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Thank you for your kind words. I don't know why I didn't do it about six months earlier. I always felt that "two hours" was a safe estimation on LE's part and was used to prove that JBR ate the pineapple after arriving home. So, finally, I thought I would confirm what my experience was telling me.
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October 16, 2012, 11:30 am, Tue Oct 16 11:30:53 UTC 2012 #88
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Bump. I have some more information to share about this transit time in regards to the pineapple.
I know of a young lady who, unfortunately, had to have her entire colon (large intestine) surgically removed. Her small intestine was hooked directly to the rectum so she would not have to live with a colostomy the rest of her life.
Now. Do you know how long it takes for food to travel from her stomach through the rectum? FIFTY ONE MINUTES. That's right. When this young lady eats a meal, she begins to empty it within one hour.
Now. How long do you suppose it would take a few chunks of pineapple to enter the first part of the small bowel if this young ladies meal is through the entire small intestine within one hour?
We're not speaking 2 hours here. Pineapple, as my experience and experiment proved (and this unfortunate girl confirms) would be in a young lady's proximal small intestine any where from 15 minutes to one hour max. Bet anything that first assault happened within 30 minutes of JBR eating pineapple.
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October 16, 2012, 2:07 pm, Tue Oct 16 14:07:45 UTC 2012 #89
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October 16, 2012, 2:20 pm, Tue Oct 16 14:20:03 UTC 2012 #90
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October 17, 2012, 9:35 pm, Wed Oct 17 21:35:55 UTC 2012 #91"We're not necessarily doubting that God will do the best for us; we are wondering how painful the best will turn out to be." - C.S. Lewis
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October 18, 2012, 9:23 am, Thu Oct 18 9:23:40 UTC 2012 #92
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October 19, 2012, 1:55 am, Fri Oct 19 1:55:50 UTC 2012 #93
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Thanks Learnin, the two hours estimate does seem VERY conservative.
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October 30, 2012, 12:18 pm, Tue Oct 30 12:18:52 UTC 2012 #94
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Thanks so much Learnin for this crucial info.
According to J. Kolar's book (p. 64), neurological changes to the brain cells indicated a time of survival after the head injury which could have ranged from between 45 minutes and 2 hours.
Would the digestion process have continued at its usual pace after the head injury?
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October 31, 2012, 1:07 am, Wed Oct 31 1:07:52 UTC 2012 #95
Very interesting, Learnin.
And so sorry for the young woman going through this pain and adjustment.
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Apparently another thing it can buy is an apology for even being suspected of a crime you probably already would have been convicted of committing if you happened to be poor.'"
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November 1, 2012, 3:23 pm, Thu Nov 1 15:23:08 UTC 2012 #96
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I have always thought that peristalsis would probably have ended with that massive head trauma. I, always, assumed the pineapple remained where it was when the head blow was struck.
Now, I emphasize. This is just an educated speculation on my part. I've never observed any digestive process with such a scenario. My experience tells me that peristalsis (bowel contraction) is a finicky (sp?) thing. If you eat something you don't like, it can slow or stop for a time. If you're not feeling well, it could slow or stop. Certain medications could slow or stop it for a time.
So, I'm assuming that brain trauma could (would) do the same.
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