WENDY MURPHY: Dead little girls + drugs = suspicion of child porn

Discussion in 'Justice for JonBenet Discussion - Public Forum' started by Little, Mar 28, 2009.

  1. Little

    Little Member

    I didn't know how to prune this one down .

     
  2. Cherokee

    Cherokee FFJ Senior Member

    Wendy Murphy said:>>"Early news reports indicated Maddie had been sedated by her parents to keep her asleep in the hotel room while they socialized nearby."<<

    >>"I don’t know if these cases are related to child porn. But I’m certain of three things. 1. Sedating victims is common. 2. The most valuable child porn depicts young, cute kids. 3. All three cases involve sedatives and young, cute kids."<<



    I admire Wendy Murphy's chutzpah in taking on Lin Wood, but here she is clearly reaching and making assumptions based on nothing but conjecture.

    "Early news reports" in the McCann case were nothing but hearsay. To my knowledge, it has not been proven that Maddie was sedated by her parents. In fact, that case has been dogged by as much misinformation as the Ramsey case, with half-truths and outright lies being bandied about as facts and hidden in the disguise of "news."

    Furthermore, the third thing Murphy is "certain of" is something NO ONE can be certain of as those facts are not known.

    1. It has not been proven that sedatives were given to JonBenet Ramsey
    2. It has not been proven that sedatives were given to Maddie McCann

    ergo

    Murphy's statement that "All three cases involve sedatives" is in error and a gross mis-statement of known facts.
     
  3. Elle

    Elle Member

    This is not good news, Little, is it, that it's most likely to be the children's parents behind these crimes of child porn. SAD!
     
  4. Jayelles

    Jayelles Alert Viewer in Scotland


    Hair samples of all three McCann children were voluntarily submitted for drug testing and the tests were negative. The early stories claimed she'd been "sedated" by Calpol except that Calpol does not contain sedative! As you say, a lot of the early stories were incorrect.

    It really bothers me when people who have a high profile don't check their facts before they open their mouths to people who respect them and assume accuracy from them. I think it's an abuse of their position. I hope someone of equal standing addresses this for the record.

    However, aside from her badly researched examples, she makes a very valid point. As a teacher, if a pupil was very sleepy in class, I'd think an early night was required. My first thoughts would be "computer games" in a younger pupil - especially boys. I'd possibly suspect drug-taking in an older pupil but not involuntary.

    It's given me something to thnk about though. Thanks for posting.
     
  5. koldkase

    koldkase FFJ Senior Member

    I love Wendy Murphy, but the toxicology reports of JonBenet Ramsey were negative for drugs, were they not?
     
  6. AMES

    AMES Member

    Yep.
     
  7. Cherokee

    Cherokee FFJ Senior Member

    Exactly what I said earlier ...

    1. It has not been proven that sedatives were given to JonBenet Ramsey
    2. It has not been proven that sedatives were given to Maddie McCann

    ergo

    Murphy's statement that "All three cases involve sedatives" is in error and a gross mis-statement of known facts.
     
  8. AMES

    AMES Member

    I would have thought that she would have checked out her facts a little bit better than that. I like her, but I am very disappointed in her right now.
     
  9. DeeDee

    DeeDee Member

    True. The toxicology reports for JBR were all negative. Though the coroner made mistakes and was sloppy in some procedures, it would be hoped that the types of drugs typically found in those porn cases would have been tested for.
    While I do not put it past the Boulder coroner's (and DA's) office to withhold such information, or even to lie about it, that still does not mean Wendy Murphy should have stated something as fact that we do not KNOW as a fact.
     
  10. koldkase

    koldkase FFJ Senior Member

    Here is what the autopsy says about the toxicology screening:

    It's not very specific, is it?
     
  11. BobC

    BobC Poster of the EON - Fabulous Inimitable Transcript

    Cherokeee--I think taking on Linn Wood is good for both their careers. Keeps our beloved Woodsie in the headlines so he can extort more money for additional evil people.
     
  12. Levi

    Levi Member

    I asked Wendy Murphy about this on my show when we were discussing the Ramsey case and she thinks the pineapple needs to be tested.
     
  13. Levi

    Levi Member

    Ok guys, just got Wendy Murphy booked for the radio show, Sunday night at 10 PM EST. We are going to be discussing this article.
     
  14. Jayelles

    Jayelles Alert Viewer in Scotland

    Will there be a transcript?
     
  15. RiverRat

    RiverRat FFJ Sr. Member Extraordinaire (Pictured at Lef

    If we type it ourselves like we used to do.....with Levi's permission, of course! I will wait until after listening Sunday night to hear the exact words out of Wendy's mouth before commenting further...
     
  16. AMES

    AMES Member

    But...I thought that it WAS tested, and turned out negative for drugs. Did I just DREAM that??
     
  17. Levi

    Levi Member

    Let me clarify what Wendy said. She stated that John and Patsy Ramsey in a interview were asked about Sedatives, in that same interview they were also asked about the pineapple. I think that is where she draws the link to the undigested pineapple and to possible sedatives.

    I also read the article, and Wendy stated that she is not sure whether child pornography had anything to do with these cases, she were just merely asking the question, because so many people are.
     
  18. Levi

    Levi Member

    I've heard her state, and I may be wrong, I'll check with her, that the tests for the undigested pineapple have not been made public.
     
  19. Levi

    Levi Member

    You do have my permission.

    But just a note all of my shows are archived in a podcast, where you can listen online anytime you want to.

    I do the shows on my own, and I have a small team that helps out from time to time, so unfortunately transcripts are not available.
     
  20. AMES

    AMES Member

    Hmmmm...really? That is quite interesting.
     
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