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    I've kicked this ransom note around for months on end. This most important piece of evidence holds the key to the unlocking of this horrible crime. The author had a motive for writing the note. Of all the motives I have considered, there is one which, I believe, explains the most.

    This motive has probably been brought up, kicked around, and dissected long before I came along on these forums. But, I'd like to throw it out again and get some feedback.

    I believe the panicked author wrote that ransom note, and set up the crime scene, to make it look like a kidnapper was holding the girl in that basement room and killed JBR after the Ramseys notified police. The open basement window, the scuff, the suitcase by the window...all to look like kidnapper got out through there.

    It seems to me that the author overkills this "we're monitoring you", "if we observe you getting the money earlier...." "don't try to grow a brain, John"
    "if you want your daughter to see 1997..." "she dies...she dies..." "the two men holding your daughter don't particularly like you...." "use your southern common sense." Who could monitor the Ramseys reactions easier than someone in the basement of the house?

    Consider the basement scene. The taped mouth keeps the girl from screaming. Why does a dead body need a blanket? Well, the kidnapper tried to keep the girl comfortable while awaiting the money. Why was the body wiped clean? Because the kidnapper was after money and not a sexual assault.

    The author instructs that the money delivery will be exhausting....yet, the kidnapper was lying await in the basement...

    What the author did not figure on is that the police, after arriving, did not find the body...

    If this was the motive, then, this means, almost without a doubt, that one or more parents were involved.....

    Comments? I am open to someone convincing me that this is not a valid motive.

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    Something horrible happens and how does one explain the death?

    The perpetrator chose a kidnapping scene with the kidnappers holding the girl in a basement room; a warning from the kidnappers to not grow a brain; at least two holding the girl with others observing from the outside;

    This explains everything that the perpetrator did at the crime scene.

    Why do parents call the police and friends over when the ransom note, right away, warns them to follow instructions to a T if they want to get their girl back? There is only one reason I can think of. Not only do they call the police, but, lo and behold, they call a house full over....duh....what better way to tip off the kidnappers.

    Why wipe the body down and attempt a clean up? Because the kidnappers weren't assaulting, they were demanding money.

    Why the tape over the mouth and the staged tying of the arms? Well, the kidnappers had to keep the girl subdued and quiet, no?

    Why the blanket for a corpse? Because the perp wanted police to think the girl was alive for a while down in the basement with her kidnappers.

    Why Patsy looking at Officer French through splayed fingers as he came up from the basement?

    Why all the repetition concerning what would happen if John "grew a brain?"

    Ockham's Razor. When nothing makes sense, the simplest explanation is the most likely.

    The perpetrator, of this crime, staged a kidnapping where the kidnappers killed the child when parents called police.

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    I'm not sure I follow all that, but I think the time of death rules out her being murdered at the time of the phone call to police.

    Wrapping the body is considered a sign of remorse.

    I think if both parents were in on it, John would have stayed with Patsy just to know what she was telling police. Instead John Ramsey shunned Patsy.

    I don't know why the ransom note is so long except that maybe it didn't sound convincing to the writer who kept piling it on to make it sound genuine. Maybe it was also meant to tie John up trying to make sense of it while Patsy called her insulating army of friends.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fr brown View Post
    I'm not sure I follow all that, but I think the time of death rules out her being murdered at the time of the phone call to police.

    Wrapping the body is considered a sign of remorse.

    I think if both parents were in on it, John would have stayed with Patsy just to know what she was telling police. Instead John Ramsey shunned Patsy.

    I don't know why the ransom note is so long except that maybe it didn't sound convincing to the writer who kept piling it on to make it sound genuine. Maybe it was also meant to tie John up trying to make sense of it while Patsy called her insulating army of friends.

    If the body had been found at 5:45 a.m., instead of 1 p.m., time of death/ discovery of body could have been within 4-5 hours. A panicked, non-medical professional, may have failed to comprehend that time of death could be so accurately ascertained. There is no such thing as a perfect murder...the perpetrators always overlook something or some things.

    As for John and Patsy's behavior. What if Patsy called 911 before John knew she was doing so? Let's say she got on the horn while John was looking at the ransom note. This might explain why John kept his distance from her and hired separate attorneys.

    But let's say they were both involved in cover up. They might still be at odds over how the horrible incident happened and who was to blame; they could be at odds as to how they should proceed. Maybe one was threatened by the other. "Go along or else I'll......"

    If Burke struck the first blow, they could be at odds about going to the police or covering up....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Learnin View Post
    If the body had been found at 5:45 a.m., instead of 1 p.m., time of death/ discovery of body could have been within 4-5 hours. A panicked, non-medical professional, may have failed to comprehend that time of death could be so accurately ascertained. There is no such thing as a perfect murder...the perpetrators always overlook something or some things.

    As for John and Patsy's behavior. What if Patsy called 911 before John knew she was doing so? Let's say she got on the horn while John was looking at the ransom note. This might explain why John kept his distance from her and hired separate attorneys.

    But let's say they were both involved in cover up. They might still be at odds over how the horrible incident happened and who was to blame; they could be at odds as to how they should proceed. Maybe one was threatened by the other. "Go along or else I'll......"

    If Burke struck the first blow, they could be at odds about going to the police or covering up....
    According to both their accounts, John was crouched on the floor reading the ransom note at the time that Patsy was calling 911. It couldn't have been easy to read the note down there on the floor so early in the morning in the middle of winter.

    Det. Arndt said that John Ramsey was calm and collected, even smiling and joking, early in the morning until undergoing a change in demeanor, presumably after finding his daughter's body. Fleet White described Ramsey as "puzzled" that morning. It seems to me that Ramsey didn't realize exactly what was going on until he went down in the basement by himself and discovered her corpse.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fr brown View Post
    According to both their accounts, John was crouched on the floor reading the ransom note at the time that Patsy was calling 911. It couldn't have been easy to read the note down there on the floor so early in the morning in the middle of winter.

    Det. Arndt said that John Ramsey was calm and collected, even smiling and joking, early in the morning until undergoing a change in demeanor, presumably after finding his daughter's body. Fleet White described Ramsey as "puzzled" that morning. It seems to me that Ramsey didn't realize exactly what was going on until he went down in the basement by himself and discovered her corpse.

    Good point.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Learnin View Post
    If the body had been found at 5:45 a.m., instead of 1 p.m., time of death/ discovery of body could have been within 4-5 hours. A panicked, non-medical professional, may have failed to comprehend that time of death could be so accurately ascertained. There is no such thing as a perfect murder...the perpetrators always overlook something or some things.

    As for John and Patsy's behavior. What if Patsy called 911 before John knew she was doing so? Let's say she got on the horn while John was looking at the ransom note. This might explain why John kept his distance from her and hired separate attorneys.

    But let's say they were both involved in cover up. They might still be at odds over how the horrible incident happened and who was to blame; they could be at odds as to how they should proceed. Maybe one was threatened by the other. "Go along or else I'll......"

    If Burke struck the first blow, they could be at odds about going to the police or covering up....
    BOTH the location of the pineapple in her digestive tract and the stage of FULL rigor mortis place the TOD at between 11 pm and 1 am. Full rigor takes about 12 hours to achieve in room temperature. Even though she was in a basement in Colorado in December, it is still considered room temperature, because it is indoors and the air was not freezing. That's forensic science, not conjecture, so not much room for "what ifs". In a tropic climate, with the body out in the heat, full rigor comes on more quickly because decomposition (which breaks rigor) begins more quickly. But that is not the case here.
    The pineapple would have had to be eaten at about 4 am for it to have moved from her stomach to the small intestine where it was found. While that is not impossible, it us unlikely. But the rigor mortis is pretty much not a variable.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DeeDee View Post
    BOTH the location of the pineapple in her digestive tract and the stage of FULL rigor mortis place the TOD at between 11 pm and 1 am. Full rigor takes about 12 hours to achieve in room temperature. Even though she was in a basement in Colorado in December, it is still considered room temperature, because it is indoors and the air was not freezing. That's forensic science, not conjecture, so not much room for "what ifs". In a tropic climate, with the body out in the heat, full rigor comes on more quickly because decomposition (which breaks rigor) begins more quickly. But that is not the case here.
    The pineapple would have had to be eaten at about 4 am for it to have moved from her stomach to the small intestine where it was found. While that is not impossible, it us unlikely. But the rigor mortis is pretty much not a variable.
    This is all true, DeeDee. I'm just putting forth the possibility that the perpetrator failed to realize forensics could ascertain TOD so closely when coming up with a kidnapping-killing scenario. Come to think of it, maybe the perpetrator wasn't too far off the mark. How long did it take the coroner to arrive at the Ramsey home? Body was found at 1 p.m. and coroner arrives around 7 that night?

    I've placed myself into the shoes of the perpetrator to try and find a motive for that stupid ransom note; one that fits best with the other parts of the crime scene and subsequent Ramsey behavior.

    This was not a kidnapping that went bad but, rather, something that went bad and was made to look like a kidnapping/murder.

    I've looked at this crime scene, for the past several years, and thought it was an attempt, by the perpetrator, to confuse LE because it seems like a hodge podge of conflicting evidence. Was it a kidnapping or a sexual assault? Why two fatal assaults? Why was the body redressed and cleaned? Why leave the body in the farthest reaches of the house?

    But maybe all these things are not conflicting. Maybe everything can be explained by the perpetrator's plan.

    You have a body that bears the marks of an assault with bleeding from the vagina, bruising on the cheek and neck. How explain it?

    The perpetrator decides to make it a ransom/kidnapping which ends in murder because the parents contact the police against clear instructions to the contrary. Who can blame the panicked parents?

    The ransom note is written, body is cleaned and redressed (because this is not a sexual assault but a ransom kidnapping). You can't leave the house (for fear of being seen) so body is placed into a seldomly entered basement room. Tape is placed across the mouth so child cannot scream; arms are bound and child is covered with blanket. (kidnappers not wanting to cause undue discomfort-only wanting money). Basement window is opened, suitcase placed nearby.

    While it is still dark, screams go through the house after ransom note is found...panicked loud 911 call is made......kidnappers hear the call and "behead" the little girl before exiting out basement window.


    It's the best scenario I've been able to conceive which best explains this scene...

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    Exclamation Learning,

    You are struggling with trying to find an answer for the RN just as all of us have done for years now. It is the only and best clue in this whole awful murder.

    I take exception to your saying that the perp opened the basement window and placed the suitcase under it. By his own admission (silly that it is) John Ramsey says he broke that window months earlier when he forgot his house key. The suitcase was moved from the nearby wall to under the window by Fleet White by his own telling of that morning. So in your scene you have to exclude those 2 movements as they are already accounted for.

    Years ago when this case was still fresh and new to everyone and esp here, I wrote something about the RN and asked why on earth it was even written. One of the replys I got from someone I don't now recall said that they felt that John was the master of misdirection. His whole actions that day were to make LE look elsewhere at someone else rather than at the house owners so to speak for the perps. And to this day 13 years later he succeeded. Master of misdirection. What I don't understand and I'll ask it again, WHY DID THE RAMSEY'S GET AWAY WITH THIS? Yes, some sloppy police work for sure but District Atty Hunter and gang of thieves with him just dropped the ball. WHY??? Who was John that he held such power or whatever it was? Just rambling here I guess. I still say that if it were you or I we would be rotting in jail from the get go.
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    Quote Originally Posted by zoomama View Post
    You are struggling with trying to find an answer for the RN just as all of us have done for years now. It is the only and best clue in this whole awful murder.

    I take exception to your saying that the perp opened the basement window and placed the suitcase under it. By his own admission (silly that it is) John Ramsey says he broke that window months earlier when he forgot his house key. The suitcase was moved from the nearby wall to under the window by Fleet White by his own telling of that morning. So in your scene you have to exclude those 2 movements as they are already accounted for.

    Years ago when this case was still fresh and new to everyone and esp here, I wrote something about the RN and asked why on earth it was even written. One of the replys I got from someone I don't now recall said that they felt that John was the master of misdirection. His whole actions that day were to make LE look elsewhere at someone else rather than at the house owners so to speak for the perps. And to this day 13 years later he succeeded. Master of misdirection. What I don't understand and I'll ask it again, WHY DID THE RAMSEY'S GET AWAY WITH THIS? Yes, some sloppy police work for sure but District Atty Hunter and gang of thieves with him just dropped the ball. WHY??? Who was John that he held such power or whatever it was? Just rambling here I guess. I still say that if it were you or I we would be rotting in jail from the get go.
    Thanks for your comments. One of the things that hampers our theorizing about this case is that there are so many conflicting stories about what happened and when it happened. Take for instance this broken basement window. Read what is written in PMPT on page 44:

    "White told the detectives that he had been thre only a few minutes when he started to search the house. Alone, he went down to the basement, found some of the lights on, and started calling out JonBenet's name. It was so cluttered down there-with boxes stacked everywhere and shelves overflowing with odds and ends-that he could hardly see any open spaces where she might be. he started in Burke's train and hobby room, where HE SAW A SUITCASE SITTING UNDER A BROKEN WINDOW. ON THE FLOOR UNDER THE WINDOW, HE FOUND SMALL PIECES OF GLASS. HE PLACED SOME OF THEM ON THE WINDOWSILL. THEN HE MOVED THE SUITCASE A FEW FEET TO GET A CLOSER LOOK AT THE WINDOW...." (emphasis mine)

    This sounds to me that the suitcase was right under the window and White moved it away to get a closer look at the window. Glass was still under that broken window. I cannot fathom that any one would leave broken glass lying on the floor in a basement where children play.

    I know that someone will direct me to other testimony, or transcripts, which contradict what is written here in PMPT. But this is just my point. There are so many little things, things which are so critical in the investigation of this crime, that are missing for we who do not have access to the truth contained in the investigative files. It's these little things (for instance, did White move the suitcase under the window or away from the window), that make a big difference.

    When I'm confronted with these conflicting reports, I tend to accept the testimony that best fills in the gaps. As you wrote, this crime scene was an attempt at misdirection. This is why I believe the testimony presented in PMPT. I believe the mastermind, of this scene, staged an exit through that basement window...I believe the suitcase was right under that window and the mastermind placed it there.

    I believe John Ramsey poo poohed this broken basement window utilizing reverse psychology....John took Fleet into that room so Fleet could see that broken basement window before discovering the body. When Fleet mentioned it, John was too cool about it in my estimation. THIS WAS A BIG FREAKING FINDING, NO? Someone entered your house and took your daughter; LE tells you to go through the house and look for something unusual...there's a broken basement window....regardless of how the window was broken...would you not go upstairs and tell LE that you found a possible point of entrance????

    John poo-poohed it and downplayed it to distance himself from the staging, IMO. John wanted Fleet to be the first to say something about it just like he wanted LE to find the body but they failed to do it, IMO.

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    Quote Originally Posted by zoomama View Post
    You are struggling with trying to find an answer for the RN just as all of us have done for years now. It is the only and best clue in this whole awful murder.

    I take exception to your saying that the perp opened the basement window and placed the suitcase under it. By his own admission (silly that it is) John Ramsey says he broke that window months earlier when he forgot his house key. The suitcase was moved from the nearby wall to under the window by Fleet White by his own telling of that morning. So in your scene you have to exclude those 2 movements as they are already accounted for.

    Years ago when this case was still fresh and new to everyone and esp here, I wrote something about the RN and asked why on earth it was even written. One of the replys I got from someone I don't now recall said that they felt that John was the master of misdirection. His whole actions that day were to make LE look elsewhere at someone else rather than at the house owners so to speak for the perps. And to this day 13 years later he succeeded. Master of misdirection. What I don't understand and I'll ask it again, WHY DID THE RAMSEY'S GET AWAY WITH THIS? Yes, some sloppy police work for sure but District Atty Hunter and gang of thieves with him just dropped the ball. WHY??? Who was John that he held such power or whatever it was? Just rambling here I guess. I still say that if it were you or I we would be rotting in jail from the get go.
    I agree that you or I would be rotting in jail for sure. I believe that, when the body was discovered, the parents should have had their rights read to them within minutes.......

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    I have a crystal-clear idea in my mind as to why the note was written, and like Occam's Razor- it is the simplest one.
    There was a dead child in the house. There needed to be a reason for it. The truth was not an option. A kidnapping/ransom note provided the PERFECT way out. With the 911 call, (the other part of the equation) the Rs violated the first rule of ALL ransom notes- call police and the victim dies. There was the explanation for the dead child right there. You called the cops, so we killed her.
    What the Rs didn't think about was how odd it would be for the alleged kidnappers to leave body there. A body can still generate ransom money, and you don't really even have to tell the parents she is dead.
    I think they simply could not bring themselves to leave her body outside somewhere.
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