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    Quote Originally Posted by Show Me View Post
    Wow...he looks so different as a young man.

    Hope he has job connections through his father...very hard for young graduates to find a job that pays enough. Many kids have to move back to mom and dad's until they get the loans paid off and find a decent paying job with benefits...or end up sharing an apartment or house with other young grads.

    I'm guessing Burke doesn't have student loans.
    You never know. JR was said to be financially ruined, following the closing of his company Access Graphics, and the legal bills for his and Patsy's defense. Yet, he still maintains a private plane, so he may have more money than people think. I believe he still has a house in Charlevoix, don't know if it is the same house he had in 1996. He attempted a failed run for a Senate seat while living in Charlevoix. This may have been before Patsy died. I have seen addresses of both Atlanta, Georgia and Charlevoix, MI, for BR.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DeeDee View Post
    You never know. JR was said to be financially ruined, following the closing of his company Access Graphics, and the legal bills for his and Patsy's defense. Yet, he still maintains a private plane, so he may have more money than people think. I believe he still has a house in Charlevoix, don't know if it is the same house he had in 1996. He attempted a failed run for a Senate seat while living in Charlevoix. This may have been before Patsy died. I have seen addresses of both Atlanta, Georgia and Charlevoix, MI, for BR.
    Patsy helped John with his political attempt and her cancer came back a few years later.

    You are correct....John's crying poverty and affording a private plane leave me scratching my head. Then again John and Patsy's attempts at charity, Jonbenet Ramsey Foundation and SHOES only benefited the Ramseys or the Ramseys kids school or summer camp...maybe John has another charity we don't know about? One that helps him keep a private plane?

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    Burkes interest in airplanes has to have originated from JR as he has the same interest. Children are so impressionable.If he studied computer science that just falls into the same catagory as it all reaates.
    Patsys cancer came back DURING the campain. Remember the letter she sent out imploring friends to help JR since she was down while taking her chemo treatments?
    LE wasted no time in contacting Burke after gratuation since he gratuated in May. I think they did wait until he graduated instead of when he was 18. I'm sure they tried but I'll bet JR put them off until now. (More special treatment for the Ramseys.) Although it makes me wonder about any new evidence they wanted to talk with him about.(After all that did come from Schiller.)
    Didn't I read somewhere that someone who was friends with Burke told someone that he didn't remember anything about that night. (Grapevine I guess.)I'll bet that is what he told, or is going to tell LE when they talk.
    I do believe he will speak with LE since I don't think he will have anything of value to tell them. I think even at this late date the Ramseys still want to look like they are co-operating with LE and since Burke will say he has nothing to add it won't hurt anything.
    I wonder if Burke has a job yet in this economy?

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    BR doesn't have to worry about a job. His father will give him one or get him one. As far as him talking to LE, I doubt it. I doubt his lawyer LW will allow it. IF he does, it would be for the reason you suggested-to appear to be cooperating. Because of his age at the time, nothing he says in relation to the crime can be made public anyway.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DeeDee View Post
    BR doesn't have to worry about a job. His father will give him one or get him one. As far as him talking to LE, I doubt it. I doubt his lawyer LW will allow it. IF he does, it would be for the reason you suggested-to appear to be cooperating. Because of his age at the time, nothing he says in relation to the crime can be made public anyway.
    I know you've been consistant in saying you don't think Burke will talk to LE and I do see why you say that. But at this point I think he actually will get a job. Talking to LE would be no sweat for him since I doubt it would be any sort of game changer in this case since he can always just say he "doesn't remember." I am one who thinks he will remain loyal to his family whether or not he has damning information. As far as a job goes I would think he would want to get one since young people his age strive to get away from parents and make thier own mark on the world. He seems to be totally into airplanes and I could see him wanting to get a job in that field so he can do what he loves. He's old enough to have matured out of College dorm room partying and I would assume he would want to apply the knowlege he's aquired from school. It would be "fun" to him. But of course, I could be very wrong and he could choose to live off of Daddy, although I don't think JR is the wealthy parent that kids that do that have.

    Just as an aside, DeeDee, my sisters name is DeeDee (we are only 13 months apart) and when KK put us in the corner in that other post I had to laugh because it reminded me of when I was young and my sister and I got in trouble and we both got punished.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Karen View Post
    I know you've been consistant in saying you don't think Burke will talk to LE and I do see why you say that. But at this point I think he actually will get a job. Talking to LE would be no sweat for him since I doubt it would be any sort of game changer in this case since he can always just say he "doesn't remember." I am one who thinks he will remain loyal to his family whether or not he has damning information. As far as a job goes I would think he would want to get one since young people his age strive to get away from parents and make thier own mark on the world. He seems to be totally into airplanes and I could see him wanting to get a job in that field so he can do what he loves. He's old enough to have matured out of College dorm room partying and I would assume he would want to apply the knowlege he's aquired from school. It would be "fun" to him. But of course, I could be very wrong and he could choose to live off of Daddy, although I don't think JR is the wealthy parent that kids that do that have.

    Just as an aside, DeeDee, my sisters name is DeeDee (we are only 13 months apart) and when KK put us in the corner in that other post I had to laugh because it reminded me of when I was young and my sister and I got in trouble and we both got punished.
    Were we put in a corner? Didn't see that.
    I wasn't suggesting BR didn't WANT a job or wasn't going to get one. I meant he didn't have to worry about finding one because he could depend on his dad, NOT to support him (though he could) but to get him a job.
    JR is still a rich man. He just signed a lucrative contract.
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    I didn't know that about JR! Who did he sign a contract with? The last I read he was working for some motivational speaking organization, (as well as Beth Holloway) and he was travling around to speaking engagements.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Karen View Post
    I didn't know that about JR! Who did he sign a contract with? The last I read he was working for some motivational speaking organization, (as well as Beth Holloway) and he was travling around to speaking engagements.
    JR didn't really work for the motivational speaking organization as in getting a regular paycheck. He was listed with a speaker's group that acted like his contact agent. A person wanting a "motivational" or "inspirational" might peruse the agent's web site and choose someone that matched their needs. Beth Holloway was listed with the same agency. Usually the way it works is that the speaker pays a nominal fee to be listed, and then the agency gets a certain percentage cut of the speaking fee.

    John hasn't had very many speaking engagements through the years, so he can't have made much money that way. It certainly wouldn't be enough to keep him in the lifestyle to which he had become accustomed. It's no wonder John sold his boat and the house he flipped in Charlevoix, has tried to sell his beloved plane, and then moved to lived with friends in Little Rock, AR.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Karen View Post
    I didn't know that about JR! Who did he sign a contract with? The last I read he was working for some motivational speaking organization, (as well as Beth Holloway) and he was travling around to speaking engagements.
    It was just in the news recently. I don't recall the company, but I think it was a defense contractor or something like that. Anyone here recall what it was?
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    Quote Originally Posted by DeeDee View Post
    It was just in the news recently. I don't recall the company, but I think it was a defense contractor or something like that. Anyone here recall what it was?
    Is the following article the one you were referring to? In it, John's resume is considerably padded and puffed up compared to the reality of the jobs he has really held. I would think this person was a different "John Ramsey" than the one we know except that John's shadow company (registered in Delaware) that owned his plane and hid some of his investments is called the Bennett Ramsey Group.


    http://www.proactiveinvestors.com/companies/news/8185

    White Canyon Uranium appoints John Ramsey as Executive Director

    Tuesday, September 07, 2010

    Australian and Canadian listed White Canyon Uranium (ASX:WCU, TSX-V:WU) has appointed John Ramsey to the company’s Board as an executive director.

    Ramsey brings extensive US based corporate and capital markets experience gained over the last 30 years.

    He has held senior management positions and board positions and has extensive experience in growing and expanding the revenue base and profitability of companies.

    Ramsey is currently a principal in the Bennett Ramsey Group and consults to CEO’s and entrepreneurs of companies with high growth potential.

    Lew Cross, chairman, said the Board considers John’s appointment will add considerable marketing and capital markets knowledge relevant to the US market and will further facilitate the emergence of White Canyon as a significant uranium producer in the US over the coming years.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Cherokee View Post
    Is the following article the one you were referring to? In it, John's resume is considerably padded and puffed up compared to the reality of the jobs he has really held. I would think this person was a different "John Ramsey" than the one we know except that John's shadow company (registered in Delaware) that owned his plane and hid some of his investments is called the Bennett Ramsey Group.


    http://www.proactiveinvestors.com/companies/news/8185

    White Canyon Uranium appoints John Ramsey as Executive Director

    Tuesday, September 07, 2010

    Australian and Canadian listed White Canyon Uranium (ASX:WCU, TSX-V:WU) has appointed John Ramsey to the company’s Board as an executive director.

    Ramsey brings extensive US based corporate and capital markets experience gained over the last 30 years.

    He has held senior management positions and board positions and has extensive experience in growing and expanding the revenue base and profitability of companies.

    Ramsey is currently a principal in the Bennett Ramsey Group and consults to CEO’s and entrepreneurs of companies with high growth potential.

    Lew Cross, chairman, said the Board considers John’s appointment will add considerable marketing and capital markets knowledge relevant to the US market and will further facilitate the emergence of White Canyon as a significant uranium producer in the US over the coming years.


    [snip]
    Ha ha ha, so THAT'S how John Ramsey got the job! His old friend and laywer pal, Mike Bynum, was appointed as "Executive Director, President White Canyon Uranium, North America" on May 21, 2010. For details see - http://media.wotnews.com.au/asxann/01067403.pdf

    Mike didn't waste much time getting John aboard the new gravy train. By the way, John's official title is "Executive Director, Vice President Corporate Marketing, WCU North America."


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    http://www.whitecanyonuranium.com.au/index.php


    White Canyon Uranium Limited

    ASX: WCU TSX-V: WU

    Latest News - September 27, 2010

    •Development material is being supplied to Denison Mines Corp in preparation for milling under toll milling agreement

    •Lew Cross appointed Chairman, Board of Directors

    •Mike Bynum appointed Executive Director, President White Canyon Uranium, NA

    •Strategic Investor acquires 20 million shares of WCU stock from Golden States

    •John Ramsey appointed Executive Director, Vice President Corporate Marketing, WCU North America

    •Growing its resource base through exploration, drilling, consolidation and acquisition

    •Mike Shumway appointed Vice President, Mining and Acquisitions, WCU North America
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