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    Just for comparison -

    I found a Brinn collectible 1996 Christmas porcelain doll in a red dress with a white ribbon down the front.

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    Stands Approx 14 inches tall. Pretty curly blonde hair & dressed in a Christmas red gown. Comes with box for gift giving or storage. Includes Certificate of Authenticity

    http://www.amazon.com/Brinns-Collect.../dp/B002V7QDPG
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    All I'm saying is that there actually seems to be real interest, for the first time in years, in solving this case. Every word that is posted on these forums is being read by Ramsey hacks who would love nothing better than to have the case taken from the police again. They succeeded once. So all I'm saying is be careful--don't give those creeps any ammunition.

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    I was thinking that if we could get the original tape that this came from perhaps it can be enhanced.. 1 or 2 seconds before or after this screen capture could make a difference...

    So....I just called A Candy Rose and get this... since it says Court TV it was no doubt a tape that either myself, Tricia or Little sent her as she did not have cable and the three of us were taping things and sending them to her so she could see them. She just moved and some of her stuff is in storage and it is really impossible for her to get to them right now.

    I was thinking maybe someone would happen to have this taped? Or Tricia, do you know anyone who still might be at CTV- Tru TV now to see what show this might have been and if they have a copy of this photo?

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    Quote Originally Posted by koldkase View Post
    Oh, I wouldn't go that far. There's sure to be someone who is going to appear and say it's this or that or not this or that, but something else because they know as blahblahblah.

    Hey, I hope someone does know. I sure don't. I was really looking for the photos of Smit crawling in that window. I have some saved on disk, but purged a lot of stuff from my computer files, so thought I could find it quick online. Ha. I always make that mistake. Things are going, going, gone.

    Anyhow, I have no idea why that photo popped out at me. It just did. I guess I have a bad habit of wandering around through stuff I've spent years wandering around through, because I forget stuff after all these years.


    Well, we'll cross our fingers and hope someone knows what it is and speaks up.
    No offense KK. My eyesight is still good according to my optometrist, but the doll photos are not clear enough for me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sabrina View Post
    I was thinking that if we could get the original tape that this came from perhaps it can be enhanced.. 1 or 2 seconds before or after this screen capture could make a difference.
    Good idea, Sabrina. I hope someone has a copy of the original CTV broadcast.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BobC View Post
    All I'm saying is that there actually seems to be real interest, for the first time in years, in solving this case. Every word that is posted on these forums is being read by Ramsey hacks who would love nothing better than to have the case taken from the police again. They succeeded once. So all I'm saying is be careful--don't give those creeps any ammunition.
    I agree and I can tell you without question the information I receive from sources NEVER came from or comes from law enforcement past or present.

    There is no reason what-so-ever to take this from the police. There are no leaks to FFJ or Websleuths from law enforcement.

    This is a GREAT THREAD. Carry on everyone. I love reading all your incredible work and ideas. Keep them coming fast and furious.
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    Cherokee you are amazing.

    To me that looks like the doll. It really does. OH MY GOD.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cherokee View Post
    Just for comparison -

    I found a Brinn collectible 1996 Christmas porcelain doll in a red dress with a white ribbon down the front.

    Description:

    Stands Approx 14 inches tall. Pretty curly blonde hair & dressed in a Christmas red gown. Comes with box for gift giving or storage. Includes Certificate of Authenticity

    http://www.amazon.com/Brinns-Collect.../dp/B002V7QDPG
    If only we could find a way to make the picture more clear...Thank You for adding this, Cherokee - from what I've read elsewhere, a certain poster has confirmed that there was a doll and it was Team Ramsey that released these pictures, so No One at this forum needs to worry about a thing.

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    I'm not sure the yellow area looks three dimensional enough to be a doll's head. It looks flatter than the red part.

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    Ummm I'm confused (more so than is my normal state). I still see pink in the blurred picture of what I think is a doll on the floor. Why is the doll in a red dress used as a comparison?
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    Quote Originally Posted by zoomama View Post
    Ummm I'm confused (more so than is my normal state). I still see pink in the blurred picture of what I think is a doll on the floor. Why is the doll in a red dress used as a comparison?
    My monitor shows red instead of pink in the CTV photo. I got to thinking it might be a Christmas doll dressed in a red and white outfit, so that's why I went looking for a 1996 Christmas doll, and found the Brinn version with the dress that matches the photo, IF what we're seeing is truly a doll.

    I placed the two photos side by side to get a comparison, and the colors both look red to me.

    I think the angle of the CTV video capture skews the depth perception and even the colors of the evidence photos on display. That's why it's hard to tell what we're really seeing in that corner. Hopefully, someone has a copy of the original tape, and we can get a more detailed screen shot.

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    Okay, y'all probably have it all figured out now, but hubby is home setting fires as fast as I can put them out, so I'm just going to post these as this is SORT OF the idea I'm thinking about in terms of what I might be seeing in that blurred photo--but these are a collectibles plate and a Christmas tree ornament, but they're from 1996 issues:






    "University of Colorado Law Professor Paul Campos declared the letter a 'reckless exoneration.' He went on to state, 'Everyone knows that relative immunity from criminal conviction is something money can buy.
    Apparently another thing it can buy is an apology for even being suspected of a crime you probably already would have been convicted of committing if you happened to be poor.'"
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