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Old August 5, 2006, 8:42 pm, Sat Aug 5 20:42:20 CDT 2006
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Oh, I almost forgot! I heard something on a Discovery Channel program a few nights ago, and it was so...typical...of the mystery that drives this case, I thought I'd share it here...with the abbreviations brought up. I'm sure this has been said before, as many have brought the masons into this mystery, along with every other thing in the universe...but....

You all know Don Paugh is a Mason, 32nd Degree or some such, which means he's been in it a long time. It's already engraved on his tombstone, next to Nedra.

The show was about the masons, famous people through history who were masons, their good works and mystery and influence, that kind of thing. Lots of shows on that since The DaVinci Code came out as a best seller and movie. Blahblah.

But there it was, I knew it was coming somehow, so I just waited for it: the three masonic symbols, depicted on their crest or seal or whatever: the carpenter's square, the Bible, and the compass.

A Square, the Bible, and the Compass.

We've often wondered WHO was molesting JonBenet before that night.

We've often wondered about those questions Haney asked Patsy about being molested as a child, or her sisters being molested.

I know I know I know. But it's a thought. We've always thought Patsy was angry at John in that letter. Maybe it wasn't John at all.

Patsy's father financed John's basement computer business. He worked for AG in Boulder as well.

Dear Mr. Ramsey, We respect your business but not the country that it serves.

$118,000 leads back to AG.

AG came from John's little basement business, financed by Patsy's father.

VICTORY! You won't assassinate me!

Well, it's all speculation, but there is no doubt that something very wrong was going on in that family. One guess is as good as another at this point.

The ransom note must explain WHY JonBenet was chosen by this "foreign faction." Of course, international companies are always aware of kidnapping by third world terrorist groups. So that flow is natural enough and may have been used for its value on its face.

But the molestation is the key to the subcurrent in this murder, IMO.
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Old August 6, 2006, 11:06 am, Sun Aug 6 11:06:08 CDT 2006
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"Maybe Patsy's identity disorder extended to JonBenet. Maybe she used JonBenet to relive her own life vicariously, so wounded with cancer, to improve upon it...maybe she was grooming JonBenet to be a great lover like Jenny in the movie...only someone picked up on it way too soon.... Maybe Patsy saw her world falling apart and JonBenet was going to be the one to betray her...assassinate her...by telling...blowing up that American Dream Patsy needed so desperately to live...and in a big way, if it was incest, Patsy saw a very long fall from public grace."

There's a shrink who would agree. Jamie Turndorf said that Patsy was replaying traumatic events that she was never able to cope with through JB.
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Old August 6, 2006, 7:01 pm, Sun Aug 6 19:01:06 CDT 2006
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I saw the Da Vinci Code movie, and I just finished the book. I enjoyed it very much, but the movie had to eliminate some of the data in the book, or it would have been a three hour movie.

Interesting observation KK, with the acronym SBTC, but I doubt very much that Patsy would have led you to her father, but if Patsy Ramsey was delusional and out of it after the murder, who knows what way her mind was working at that time. I don't know how she managed to function after the death of JonBenét, but function she did!
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Old August 7, 2006, 10:50 am, Mon Aug 7 10:50:10 CDT 2006
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The square and compasses are symbols always displayed in an open Lodge with the open Volume of the Sacred Law. In English-speaking countries, this is frequently the King James Version of the Bible or another standard translation (there is no such thing as an exclusive "Masonic Bible").[22] Otherwise it is whatever book a particular jurisdiction authorizes: in many French Lodges, the Masonic Constitutions are used.

Square Bible The Compass doesn't make much sense.

Also, most of the time the Masonic Crest is limited to the square and compass with or without the letter G.
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Old August 8, 2006, 12:22 pm, Tue Aug 8 12:22:02 CDT 2006
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The square and compasses are symbols always displayed in an open Lodge with the open Volume of the Sacred Law. In English-speaking countries, this is frequently the King James Version of the Bible or another standard translation (there is no such thing as an exclusive "Masonic Bible").[22] Otherwise it is whatever book a particular jurisdiction authorizes: in many French Lodges, the Masonic Constitutions are used.

Square Bible The Compass doesn't make much sense.

Also, most of the time the Masonic Crest is limited to the square and compass with or without the letter G.
By any chance are you a Freemason yourself, Paradox? My oldest brother (deceased) in Scotland was one, but we never heard a single word spoken about what went on. I also pestered another friend to tell me all the secrets, and he wouldn't. :-( However, all these years later, I am learning something in relation to the Freemasons, from the "The Da Vinci Code" and "Angels and Demons" and I am enjoying Dan Brown's books very much.
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