John Ramsey on 48 Hours - Saturday - 11/25/06

[Elle_1]

Thank you Greenleaf for posting the articles by DAVID K. LI.

It's all very disheartening.

[koldkase]

Well, I'm obviously a dolt!

Of COURSE! John Karr only ORCHESTRATED THE MURDER! He had a PARTNER WHO ACTUALLY COMMITTED THE CRIME! THAT'S how the killer's DNA didn't match Karr! But he's STILL GUILTY! Along with HIS ACCOMPLICE!

How stupid of me!

And how do they think Karr knew about "Neddie"? Oh! I know! JONBENET TOLD HIM!

I mean, JonBenet told HIS PARTNER!

Where do they get these weak-minded people? The Federal guy...oh, yeah, now HE'S a braintrust! All the WRONG information Karr wrote and confessed to Tracey about the murder notwithstanding...IT WAS A FOREIGN FACTION!

And is there SOME REASON DeStup never heard that SMIT GAVE TRACEY THE DNA DOCS LONG AGO? We saw those YEARS ago in ANOTHER Tracey croc!

All window dressing and NO FACTS. Same old same old.

But the thing I really came away with is that TRACEY IS THE MOST OBSESSED PERSON WITH THIS CASE. He is DETERMINED to find an intruder, and he's going to find one if he has to tell the pervert how she was murdered himself so he can confess!

The good news is that Tracey is about as clueless as Smit and DeMuth when it comes to actual evidence. They couldn't find their butts with a map and a flashlight!

And no wonder CBS is in the toilet. I have never seen anything so biased, so deliberately misleading and uninformed as Moriarty playing parrot for Tracey and Smit's BS. She is hands down the worst alleged reporter I've ever seen in any medium, anywhere, anytime. She's a joke. Who did she screw to get her job?

And using that piano tune to get Patsy's DRAMATIC MOMENT, with REAL TEARS...pure METHOD ACTING. Now THAT'S STAGING! I thought I'd puke. Big old crocodile tears. Boohoo.

Tracey lost it when he heard Karr confess? Ha! Tracy lost it long before then.

So...wonder who the NEXT INTRUDER/VICTIM will be? Helgoth, Gigax, Oliva, White, McReynolds...now Karr...and Karr's imaginary accomplice.... Who to run over with the bus next, who oh who...?

Well, stay tuned. They'll think of someone, of THAT you can be sure.

[Elle_1]

Originally Posted by icedtea4me

Are you referring to tonight's 48 Hours program, Elle? If so, it's on CBS, not FOX.


-Tea

Thanks Tea. I wonder if it will be shown again (?). I don't know if I want to see it now after reading all the posts here tonight (?). All one sided, as per usual.

[Elle_1]

Originally Posted by Thor

Rat faced Bastid. Sabrina's avator is actually just perfection to show the world what that creep looks like. Yes, Elle, I have nothing but wrath to feel after this. Look, this has been so one-sided for so long it's not funny. And John Mark Karr has surely used up his 15 minutes of fame. He didn't kill JonBenet any more than my left butt cheek did. Move on and focus on the real suspects here. I am sick of the whole thing. And boot Mary Lacey out of office.

In a way, I'm glad I missed it Thor. I don't think I could stand watching it now.
The news is so depressing here. As you said it's all one-sided. It almost looks as if they are determined to pin this murder on anyone but the Ramseys, and John Mark Karr might as well fill the bill for them. I can't get over John Ramsey's remarks about this sick individual being a clean cut good looking individual, and that he felt sorry for him. PUKE - PUKE - PUKE is all I can think of when I look at his creepy face. ECH!

[icedtea4me]

Originally Posted by koldkase

And how do they think Karr knew about "Neddie"? Oh! I know! JONBENET TOLD HIM!

LOL! Good Lord! It's not that far of a leap to use Neddie for Nedra. Even Ned Flanders is called Neddie.


-Tea

[koldkase]

Oh, Elle, it was the same old same old.

All that was new was Tracey got his fugly face on TV and got to tell how he and HE ALONE sussed out Karr! Then led LE to him!

They spent about 40 minutes on that.

Then they spent 5 seconds on Tracey saying, "If he didn't do it, he didn't do it."

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!

NO CHIT, SHERLOCK.

Of course, the producer of this schlock then went on to make the point that KARR IS QUITE LIKELY TO BE THE KILLER...BY PROXY!!

I tell you what I want to know. I want to know who at CBS is good buddies with John Ramsey, or Lin Wood, or Tracey, or someone in Colorado, maybe Hadden, one of their shills. There is no way they'd keep airing these love letters to the Ramsey shills if there wasn't SOMEONE pushing them. They make NO ATTEMPT to be unbiased or objective, to get their facts straight or even pretend to know anything about the case other than what the Ram shills tell them. Greenleaf got it right: yellow journalism. They attack ALL THE POOR SMUCKS THEY KNOW THEY CAN, manipulating and editing until SOMEONE ANYONE BUT A RAMSEY looks GUILTY OF CHILD MURDER.

I'm still waiting for Moriarty's APOLOGY to Oliva! What she did to that poor mental case was so unconscionable, it's pure slander. But she knows she can get away with it, JUST LIKE THE RAMSEYS: FINGER DEAD PEOPLE, POOR PEOPLE, CRAZY PEOPLE. And when they don't pan out, MOVE ON TO THE NEXT BUS VICTIM, NO APOLOGIES NECESSARY.

The evil that murdered JonBenet just keeps on going and going and going....

Oh, IT WAS THE ENERGIZER BUNNY!

[icedtea4me]

Originally Posted by Elle_1

Thanks Tea. I wonder if it will be shown again (?). I don't know if I want to see it now after reading all the posts here tonight (?). All one sided, as per usual.

I have no idea, Elle. Does anyone know if CBS ever re-aired that Nov 2002 48 Hours show?


-Tea

[koldkase]

Originally Posted by icedtea4me

LOL! Good Lord! It's not that far of a leap to use Neddie for Nedra. Even Ned Flanders is called Neddie.


-Tea

OH, I'd be MONEY that Tracey "let it slip" to Karr. Remember, we haven't seen all of TRACEY'S emails, now have we? He fed Karr plenty. What would be funny if we weren't talking about a child murder and a sick pervert, is that Karr got LOTS of stuff WRONG about the murder in those emails and phone calls.

But you won't hear the RamShills mention THAT.

Oh, and that Homeland Security Agent...he's so smart, he just told KARR that they're watching him so Karr can lead them to his ACCOMPLICE in JonBenet's murder...ON NATIONAL TV.

Brilliant. Just breathtaking, how smart the RamShills are. It's so hard to imagine why they haven't found that intruder yet!

[Why_Nut]

Well, well, well! What have we here?

The complete first page of the initial CBI DNA report is on my screen as I type this, and here is the complete list of names of people who had DNA samples taken in the first days after JonBenet's death, for analysis and results issued in a report by January 15, 1997:

Bloodstain standard from John Andrew Ramsey
Bloodstain standard from Melinda Ramsey
Bloodstain standard from John B. Ramsey
Bloodstain standard from Patricia Ramsey
Bloodstain standard from Burke Ramsey
Bloodstain standard from John Fernie
Bloodstain standard from Priscilla White
Bloodstain standard from Jeff Ramsey
Bloodstain standard from MERVIN PUGH
Bloodstain standard from LINDA HOFFMANN-PUGH

[icedtea4me]

Thank you, Why Nut!


-Tea

[Why_Nut]

Confirmation from DeMuth's own report, and I quote:

"The duct tape found on the paintings has a different production period."

Fine and dandy. What he has confirmed there is that, indeed, the Ramsey household had black duct tape on multiple paintings. Notice he did not say that the tape on the paintings was the wrong color, or even that it was not duct tape. So there you have that data point to consider; black duct tape was in the house, but what was found was not from the same "production period" as the tape from the crime scene.

[Cranberry]

Great work on the reports Why Nut. One question - is this before DNA-X?