Forensic Evidence 2: Bedwetting

[Kangatruth]

Originally Posted by koldkase

That's why the killer got away with it, IMO: too much evidence and too many ways to interpret it all.

That is the commensurate precis of this whole sad affair.

There's more red herrings here than a corner deli !!

[Barbara]

Originally Posted by koldkase

I'm not writing it off, Kanga. I firmly believe if we ever got a full acount of this murder, blow-by-garrote, so to speak, this would be one strange and twisted tale that nobody WOULD believe, even with the truth laid out for all to see.

That's why the killer got away with it, IMO: too much evidence and too many ways to interpret it all.

Ten years of case study, summed up in one sentence! Excellent!

Edited to add:

I guess Kanga and I were posting at the same time, so it's not just my opinion. Excellent!

[Kangatruth]

actually ..when you whittle away all out suppositions and sleuthing, you still have a dictionary with a page dog eared. Dog eared in a rather strange manner, seemingly pointing to something, or maybe just marking a page.

It didnt do it by itself !! There is much to be learnt by the who and why, no matter which way it goes.

[koldkase]

Originally Posted by Kangatruth

actually ..when you whittle away all out suppositions and sleuthing, you still have a dictionary with a page dog eared. Dog eared in a rather strange manner, seemingly pointing to something, or maybe just marking a page.

It didnt do it by itself !! There is much to be learnt by the who and why, no matter which way it goes.

I agree. Too bad no one will ever teach that lesson.

[Elle_1]

Moab:

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That was my understanding as well, that it was a large dictionary on a stand, but now I must digress...large book...dog-eared paged are generally a half inch to a full inch bend of the outside top corner of the page. DO THE EXPERIMENT, and get a large book, and tell me how ANYONE could determine what word the pointed corner of the page points to. I am with KK on this...too many words on the page! You would have to disqualify all the other words on that page to actualy "qualify" the word incest!

Of course, Moab, it could have been any other word other than incest. I go along with this.

[icedtea4me]

Originally Posted by BluesStrat

Did Patsy order the dancer for her own party, or was it a prank-gift from a friend?

It was a drag queen hired by Priscilla White.


-Tea

[tylin]

From Steve Thomas's paperback book, page 293.

A picture showed Webster's New Collegiate Dictionary on a coffee table in the first-floor study, the corner of the lower left-hand page sharply creased and pointing like an arrow to the word incest. Somebody had apparently been looking for a defination of sexual contact between family members.

[Kangatruth]

does that picture exist to the public domain ?? ( the dictionay with folded corner )

cheers
>:~))

[Moab]

Originally Posted by tylin

From Steve Thomas's paperback book, page 293.
Quote:
A picture showed Webster's New Collegiate Dictionary on a coffee table in the first-floor study, the corner of the lower left-hand page sharply creased and pointing like an arrow to the word incest. Somebody had apparently been looking for a defination of sexual contact between family members.

Thanks tylin, this is entirely different from what we have been discussing, not only here, but this whole 10 years. Where does it say "dog-eared"? Which, unless I am backwards, usually happens at the top of the page. My Websters Collegiate edition was either a different sized book or a different edition since the word "incest" is the first word on the right-hand page, not the left. From what you quoted above from ST's book though it sounds to me like a large portion of the page was folded. Is that how anyone else interprets it? It would be interesting to know if any other pages from that book looked to have been folded down at some point in time.

To me, an adult would not do that to a book. [Books and blueberries are our friends ] I would have been whipped and served with cobbler if I had ever folded the page of a book while growing up, but perhaps that was just my "era". I was taught from a very early age, that the smallest scrap of paper would serve as a placeholder if I couldn't find a proper bookmark.

It will be interesting to see how others feel about this information now!

[Kangatruth]

id just like to see the pic ....lol :-)) as they say...worth a thousand words ( and a bonus because of the others on the page !!! lol )

[heymom]

Originally Posted by Kangatruth

id just like to see the pic ....lol :-)) as they say...worth a thousand words ( and a bonus because of the others on the page !!! lol )

Yes, Kanga, I would like to see a photo too. My American Heritage Dictionary has the word "incest" close to the bottom of the first left-side column, which makes it easy to point the corner of that page to that word. I'd love to have had access to the bookshelves at the Ramsey's, to see if that bottom-folding page pattern showed up in any other books they owned. It does seem unusual - even if I see something interesting on a page, close to the bottom, I just fold the top of the page over, not the bottom. When I then return to that page, I visually scan the page for the info. I wanted. But if one really wanted ONLY to pay attention to one word, it would be better to point to it directly, especially if one wanted someone else to get the point. Maybe this seems far-fetched to some. Maybe it is. We'll never know for sure.

There is a lot of evidence in this case, but the right evidence was carried out of the house by Auntie Pam - that's the evidence that would give us the killer.

[Elle_1]

Originally Posted by tylin

From Steve Thomas's paperback book, page 293.
Quote:
A picture showed Webster's New Collegiate Dictionary on a coffee table in the first-floor study, the corner of the lower left-hand page sharply creased and pointing like an arrow to the word incest. Somebody had apparently been looking for a defination of sexual contact between family members.

Originally Posted by Moab

Thanks tylin, this is entirely different from what we have been discussing, not only here, but this whole 10 years. Where does it say "dog-eared"? Which, unless I am backwards, usually happens at the top of the page. My Websters Collegiate edition was either a different sized book or a different edition since the word "incest" is the first word on the right-hand page, not the left. From what you quoted above from ST's book though it sounds to me like a large portion of the page was folded. Is that how anyone else interprets it? It would be interesting to know if any other pages from that book looked to have been folded down at some point in time.

To me, an adult would not do that to a book. [Books and blueberries are our friends ] I would have been whipped and served with cobbler if I had ever folded the page of a book while growing up, but perhaps that was just my "era". I was taught from a very early age, that the smallest scrap of paper would serve as a placeholder if I couldn't find a proper bookmark.

It will be interesting to see how others feel about this information now!

This sounds very odd, Moab. I have never seen pages folded over at the corner, at the bottom of any book. They have always been at the top. In this instance, the corner turned over with the tip pointing to "incest" could be taken as singling out the word "incest." It's obvious Steve Thomas takes it this way.

I have worked in a few libraries, and I have never ever seen corners turned over at the bottom of any books. Always the top corners.