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jameson
Member since 5-8-02
08-06-06, 03:49 PM (EST)

2. "RE: THE ELECTRONIC TRAIL"
In response to message #1

A few years ago I had a computer crash and I had to start over - - whole new computer.
But I fear what might have happened if someone decided to take the OLD computer and judge me based on what was on it.

I had searched child porn sites looking for images of JonBenet and Ariana and other children related to Ramsey. I even saved a few images to share them with LE and investigators.

Done in the interest of justice, it was really a nasty bit of work, let me tell you!

But I looked, I make no apology. If it could help catch a killer - - - I make no apology.

She looked. She saved. She sent.

 

Well if that evil downloaded kiddie porn they ought to arrest her NOW. If she were male, she'd have been arrested.

 

That a Frucking confession if I ever heard one! Great catch, JC!!! You KNOW what I am thinking....

 

hmmmm......isn't this the same thing Karr was arrested for in CA.? He says he was doing research for a book.....hmmmmmm

 

well it's illegal to download kiddie porn and the authorities monitor those servers like a hawk.

 

I do, RR.

For the record, her child porn collection didn't catch any killers.

 

Jc

But it did snag an editor.....one cannot help but connect the dots now.

 

lmao, what an arogant biatch - "I make no apology" LOLOL Who gives a flying rat's arse? Besides, it's not going to be a matter of making an apology, it will be a matter of making bail.

Rut roh! :box:

 

sickening...absolutely sickening. i wish they'd take the hickory homemaker and lock her up for a loooong time.

 

This woman has just confessed to a felony. Several.

I have recently learned that when someone confesses to a felony, they are scooped up by law enforcement, flown to the jurisdiction in question, and charged with the crime.

Shouldn't this be happening to Susan Bennett? Minus the first-class ticket and the prawns, of course.

 

Typical Jamsy, isn't it? I make no apology...blah blah blah. Of course she doesn't because she never thinks she does anything wrong.
I've heard that "make no apology" spiel from her before.

We can only hope someone nails her skanky a$$.

 

New Logo

New Logo at the Swamp:

 

Please tell me someone got a screen capture of that!

 

What does being a man have to do with child porn? It's illegal for everyone. Jams should be in jail along with Karr.

 

Oh my! :rolling: :floor: :laffbig:

 

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SAM
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08-05-06, 01:46 PM (EST)

"THE ELECTRONIC TRAIL"

Welcome to the forum Mahto.
Mahto states Charley's AOL charge increased when he started down loading pornography.
Now I wasn't at the trial and really don't know that much about it except from what I read in the media and we all know how bad they can be off.
I had child pornography case when I was United States Crimnal Investiagtor.
I had my specialist to run all the web sites that had been visted over the past 6 months.
THIS WAS A GOVERMENT COMPUTER AND I DID NOT NEED ANY SEARCH WARRENTS.
We then seperated the porno web sites from the other web sites.
We could tell which ones he opened and which ones he went deeper into.
The web site address and names were there and when he accessed them and how he paid for that access (credit card).
It's my understanding Mahto and please correct me if I'm wrong the UNITED STATES did not have that type of evidence.
It's also my understand the U.S. couldn't prove that Charley accesed any of the sites.
They may have shown when and how the sites were down loaded,strange a man would down load thousands of images pornography some child pornography then not open the sites up and view them.
I'm not defending Charley, I don't have a dog in this fight.
I do feel sorry for Charley and once considered him a friend.
I do know that the scumbags of Cass County will try to set you up.
Remember folks just like any other place most of the people who live in Cass County are God fearing hard working people.
But we do have some in certain places in government who protect there own and try destroy others who stand for justice Ref: Chief Mike Scott, Ben Markos, Carl Woods and Sam.
Other good officers just quit!
Back to the pornography, If I was going to pay for pornography I think I would open it up after down loading it and view it wouldn't you Mahto?
The U.S. didn't show the jury the names of the web sites, how many times the Charley open up the images and viewed them.
The U.S. didn't show how Charley paid for any of the child pornography, just showed an increase in his AOL account months after the pornography was down loaded.
The CCSO search warrent was a joke and did not depict the correct information, serial number, computer name, description of computer and size.
CCSO evidence log and chain of custody was horrible, it didn't exzist!!
I would have been embarresed to give that evidence log to the U.S. Attoney's Office.
I've seen much better search warrents and evidence logs thrown out of court because they were inacurate.
WHAT SAY YOU MAHTO?




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Subject Author Message Date ID
RE: THE ELECTRONIC TRAIL Mahto 08-06-06 1
RE: THE ELECTRONIC TRAIL jameson 08-06-06 2
RE: THE ELECTRONIC TRAIL FreeFalling 08-06-06 3
RE: THE ELECTRONIC TRAIL Mahto 08-07-06 4
RE: THE ELECTRONIC TRAIL jameson 08-07-06 5
RE: THE ELECTRONIC TRAIL Mahto 08-09-06 6
RE: THE ELECTRONIC TRAIL FreeFalling 08-10-06 7
RE: THE ELECTRONIC TRAIL Mahto 08-11-06 11
RE: THE ELECTRONIC TRAIL Family Member 08-10-06 8
RE: THE ELECTRONIC TRAIL FreeFalling 08-11-06 9
RE: THE ELECTRONIC TRAIL Family Member 08-11-06 10
RE: THE ELECTRONIC TRAIL Mahto 08-11-06 12
RE: THE ELECTRONIC TRAIL Mahto 08-11-06 13
RE: THE ELECTRONIC TRAIL Sam 08-11-06 14
RE: THE ELECTRONIC TRAIL Mahto 08-11-06 15
For the record jameson 08-11-06 16
RE: For the record FreeFalling 08-14-06 17
RE: For the record Mahto 08-15-06 18
RE: Jasper 08-15-06 19
RE: Mahto 08-16-06 20
RE: Buck 08-22-06 21
RE: reasonable doubt GetReal 08-22-06 22

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Mahto
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08-06-06, 03:19 AM (EST)

1. "RE: THE ELECTRONIC TRAIL"
In response to message #0

First off, the computer did not have a serial number. It was a shop made. The only serial numbers were on the hard drives. The Western Digital hard drive was named in the search warrant. It had the porno on it. The only problem with the search warrant is it did not state that it was a "Computer King" and the "50X" on it. But as Judge Ward ruled and the officers testified, with no serial number, you could have put five of them exactly alike together and the only way to have the right one would be to look at the hard drive. Thats why it was not supressed. In fact, the officers really didn't need a search warrant to take the computer. They really only needed one to search the memory. By having the child porn on it, it became contraband. The same as if the tech had found a kilo of cocaine inside the tower. Don't need a search warrant to take it. As far as the chain of custody, that only goes to the weight of the evidence not the admissibility. Its different with, say drugs. A bag of dope is a bag of dope. The only way to identify it would be thru the evidence logs and initials of the seizing officer. Something with serial number like a handgun or hard drive is a different matter. The computer you checked hadn't had a hard drive wiped clean and Windows added to it. So you had a trail. Alan Jackson didn't need to show the jury all the porn sites that showed up on Charleys banking and AOL accounts. He only had to let them know that they existed. He didn't have to show them how the child porn got on the computer. Only that they were on it and the photos spoke for themselves. The conspiracy theory and Charley not testifying is what really killed the defense. The defense didn't want Charley to testify because he would have had to answer questions about all the porno, the bank and AOL record, his statements to Ray Copeland, etc. They weren't going to allow that to happen for two reasons. If he denied all of it and said he was set up, it would have still ended up the same way. If he admitted to the legal porn, the jury would have still decided the way they did because they felt, like Jackson's closing statement "if he will look at adult porn, he will look at child porn". And by the way, the bank reccords and AOL accounts went back several years. But as I said, I feel that he was getting a lot of it thru e-mails with attachments. Thats how the traders do it. They don't download much directly from sites as they are monitored by AOL and the FBI. Also from disc sent thru the mail that you can put on yourself. Any testimony from Ben and Carl was pretty much discounted by the jury because Jackson made it look like it was sour grapes with them, because both had been fired from their jobs. And actually, the only problem with the SO's chain, was when the computer was picked up from Longview and brought back to Cass County, it was not logged in. It had already been examined at that time. And this was the only time that Gentry had acess to it. When it was initially confiscated it was taken directly to Longview and never put in the SO evidence room. These two things that everyone seems to make a big deal of, not putting Computer King on the search warrant and forgetting to log the computer in when it was brought back from Longview, were relatively minor. At least Judge Ward and the jury thought so.



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jameson
Member since 5-8-02
08-06-06, 03:49 PM (EST)

2. "RE: THE ELECTRONIC TRAIL"
In response to message #1

A few years ago I had a computer crash and I had to start over - - whole new computer.
But I fear what might have happened if someone decided to take the OLD computer and judge me based on what was on it.

I had searched child porn sites looking for images of JonBenet and Ariana and other children related to Ramsey. I even saved a few images to share them with LE and investigators.

Done in the interest of justice, it was really a nasty bit of work, let me tell you!

But I looked, I make no apology. If it could help catch a killer - - - I make no apology.








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FreeFalling
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08-06-06, 06:22 PM (EST)

3. "RE: THE ELECTRONIC TRAIL"
In response to message #2

The main reason I reported to the local police that my computer had been hacked/cracked is that I wanted a written police report as documentation in the event child porn or any other illegal activity was ever found on my computer. Malicious, evil crackers, it seems, go to extremes.
In my case, no child porn was found on my hard drive.




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Mahto
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08-07-06, 07:54 AM (EST)

4. "RE: THE ELECTRONIC TRAIL"
In response to message #2

>A few years ago I had a computer crash and I had to start
>over - - whole new computer.
>
>But I fear what might have happened if someone decided to
>take the OLD computer and judge me based on what was on it.
>
>I had searched child porn sites looking for images of
>JonBenet and Ariana and other children related to Ramsey. I
>even saved a few images to share them with LE and
>investigators.
>
>Done in the interest of justice, it was really a nasty bit
>of work, let me tell you!
>
>But I looked, I make no apology. If it could help catch a
>killer - - - I make no apology.
Big difference between a few images for law enforcement and over 1,000 images for your own personal viewing. Charley made no mention of an investigation. He denied he put them on the computer.




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jameson
Member since 5-8-02
08-07-06, 04:11 PM (EST)

5. "RE: THE ELECTRONIC TRAIL"
In response to message #4

If he didn't put them on the computer - - - - why didn't his defense lawyer put up a better fight?



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Mahto
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08-09-06, 11:42 AM (EST)

6. "RE: THE ELECTRONIC TRAIL"
In response to message #5

>If he didn't put them on the computer - - - - why didn't his
>defense lawyer put up a better fight?
No real ammunition to fight with. Really only the conspiracy theory. The jury didn't buy it.





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FreeFalling
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08-10-06, 01:19 PM (EST)

7. "RE: THE ELECTRONIC TRAIL"
In response to message #6

Hi Mahto. As I have stated before, I am only a guest here, not a paying member, so I am certainly aware that paying members here probably have a lot more knowledge of how things work here than I. From your posts, it appears that you may have a trial transcript. If that is the case, I most respectfully ask if you would share the transcript here.
If I am dead wrong about that, I have no problem with you saying that very thing. Thanks.




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Mahto
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08-11-06, 09:58 AM (EST)

11. "RE: THE ELECTRONIC TRAIL"
In response to message #7

>Hi Mahto. As I have stated before, I am only a guest here,
>not a paying member, so I am certainly aware that paying
>members here probably have a lot more knowledge of how
>things work here than I. From your posts, it appears that
>you may have a trial transcript. If that is the case, I
>most respectfully ask if you would share the transcript
>here.
>
>If I am dead wrong about that, I have no problem with you
>saying that very thing. Thanks.
No, I do not.




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Family Member
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08-10-06, 01:57 PM (EST)

8. "RE: THE ELECTRONIC TRAIL"
In response to message #4

>
>Big difference between a few images for law enforcement and
>over 1,000 images for your own personal viewing. Charley
>made no mention of an investigation. He denied he put them
>on the computer.

But he didn't view them once they were downloaded. It doesn't make sense to pay for and download that many images of any type of material and not open them up!




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FreeFalling
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08-11-06, 07:04 AM (EST)

9. "RE: THE ELECTRONIC TRAIL"
In response to message #8

Family Member, do you know if Charlie had been having any of these things happening with his computer? Mouse sluggish like someone else was controlling it; CD drawer opening and closing by itself; inability to disable windows messenger; mysterious files suddenly appearing; files being moved or deleted; runtime errors in Outlook Express; printer doing weird things like someone else is controlling it; icons on desktop blank or missing. These are some of the signs that system may have been hacked.



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Family Member
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08-11-06, 09:24 AM (EST)

10. "RE: THE ELECTRONIC TRAIL"
In response to message #9

>Family Member, do you know if Charlie had been having any of
>these things happening with his computer? Mouse sluggish
>like someone else was controlling it; CD drawer opening and
>closing by itself; inability to disable windows messenger;
>mysterious files suddenly appearing; files being moved or
>deleted; runtime errors in Outlook Express; printer doing
>weird things like someone else is controlling it; icons on
>desktop blank or missing. These are some of the signs that
>system may have been hacked.
Oh gosh FF I wish I knew the answer but I moved out to my own place in August of 2003 and he didnt take his computer in for a few months later....But you can bet I darn sure will ask him when I see him next week.




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Mahto
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08-11-06, 10:17 AM (EST)

12. "RE: THE ELECTRONIC TRAIL"
In response to message #8

Ed Jones disagreed with that. His reports showed many different creation dates for some of the folders. When Warren opened the folders, she permanantly changed the last dates that they were viewed. And remember the dates and times can be reset. I have learned recently from a geek that a virus can also change the date and times. If Ed Jones is correct, many of the images were viewed on different dates and then added to the folders. Over 900 images were transfered to the recycle bin and not on the same days. His analysis of the hard drive showed creation dates for the child porn ranged from July 01 thru Ocotber 03. Not all on one two days. This is in direct conflict with the other experts testimony. He also determined that the system clock was 15 minutes off from the GPS system, atomic clock. The dates and times his report refers to are when the files are created. The defense computer expert tried to say that all the files were put on the computer in 01 and 03. That is not what Jones report reflects. So the files were created over a 3 year period, if Jones is correct. Something I have learned from having been in law enforcement so long, you can find a expert who charges a fee to say whatever you want. I have seen it over and over again. He was a paid expert. Ed Jones was not.



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Mahto
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08-11-06, 10:48 AM (EST)

13. "RE: THE ELECTRONIC TRAIL"
In response to message #12

I guess I should clarify the statements about expert witnesses. I am not saying that the expert testified falsely. Most won't do that. But they will spin the testimony to fit your theory. I remembr a recent case in Cass County where a woman, in my opinion, got away with murdering a child because of testimony from a paid expert. The woman ran a illegal day care center. She reported that a two year old child was knocked down by two other children onto a wood floor. The child died later at Children's hospital in Little Rock. The doctors in Little Rock called the police because in their opinoin, it could not had happened the way she stated. The autopsy showed that the back of the skull was crushed. On the prosecution side were a radiologist, Neurosurgeons, ER doctors, Specialist from Childrens and the pathologist from Dallas who all actually worked on the child. The attending trauma pedeatrician from Arkansas was a graduate of Yale and had been working traumas on children for 17 years. His testimony was that he had treated several hundred children who had fallen on wood floor, with none EVER resulting in this type of injury. The Neurosurgeon likened the injurys to the child falling down a flight of stairs onto his head to recieve this type of injury. All the other doctors and the pathologist who conducted the autopsy were in agreement. The defense comes up with hired gun who is paid $8,000.00 to come and testify. He is a bio-chemical engineer who never even saw the child. He looked at the pictures and analysed the wood floor. He testified in court that IT WAS AN ACCIDENT, not that in his opinion it could have happened the way she said. He was not there when it happened. Her husband, who later divorced her, reported to the DA that while the expert was in the house checking the floor, he told the defense that he could make it come out however they wanted it. Some of these people advertise in the law magazines. And many of them have very impressive credentials. Its a racket like a lot of things are.



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Sam
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08-11-06, 11:36 AM (EST)

14. "RE: THE ELECTRONIC TRAIL"
In response to message #13

Again welcome to forum the Mahto.
I'm not very computer literate but some of the people on this forum are. I guess what I'm having a problem with is the electronic trail for payment.
In my case and it was very different the perp used his credit card and it indicated which site porno site he went to and downed loaded the child pornography.
For example it would state PRETTY BABIES.COM and it would show 19.95 for the charge.
In Charley's case it only showed a increase in his AOL charge but what was it for?
It could have been for 101 Dalmations, what caused the increase in his AOL charge?



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Mahto
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08-11-06, 01:17 PM (EST)

15. "RE: THE ELECTRONIC TRAIL"
In response to message #14

>Again welcome to forum the Mahto.
>I'm not very computer literate but some of the people on
>this forum are. I guess what I'm having a problem with is
>the electronic trail for payment.
>In my case and it was very different the perp used his
>credit card and it indicated which site porno site he went
>to and downed loaded the child pornography.
>For example it would state PRETTY BABIES.COM and it would
>show 19.95 for the charge.
>In Charley's case it only showed a increase in his AOL
>charge but what was it for?
>It could have been for 101 Dalmations, what caused the
>increase in his AOL charge?
I'm not sure of what you mean by an increase in his AOL charge. Charley was on a IBillC account which is a Internet Billing Company similar to a PayPal. A fee is deducted automatically from your checking account or credit card account. His bank accounts showed the deductions, but listed IBillC. This way it doesn't show on your statement what you are purchasing. His IBillC records shows that porn was being purchased. Oh yes, the FBI and the defense had the IBill records. Thats how they know that he was hitting sites called Bizarresexxx, Teen Fresh, Uncensored Teens. You get the drift. Those records also show different dates and times over a three year period that he was looking at the sites. Everybody harps about those download dates. I think these records shore up Ed Jones testimony and disputes the defense expert witness. They know for a fact that Charley was looking at porn on his computer almost nightly, but it was on legal porn sites so the records were not admissable. However, they may have had links that were not. Surely Charley wasn't spending all that money just to look without keeping some of it, was he. Alan Jackson chose not to put the records in because he would have had to bring a custodian of records for the company to testify and it still would have been about legal porn. He just needed to let the jury know that Charley was looking at porn.




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jameson
Member since 5-8-02
08-11-06, 03:27 PM (EST)

16. "For the record"
In response to message #15

I have been asked in email why I am not actively looking into Charlie's situation... deciding for myself if he is guilty or innocent - - maybe taking on his cause.
Fact is, Charlie was part of this forum in the beginning and I certainly WOULD take an interest if he had remained a supporter.

He chose another path - - not only chose to turn his back on our efforts to get at the truth but to publicly attack me personally.

I am sorry for his situation, but have no great interest in what happens to him.

Just my very HONEST opinion.




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FreeFalling
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08-14-06, 04:45 PM (EST)

17. "RE: For the record"
In response to message #16

Mahto, in another thread you said there was no signs that Charlie's computer had been cracked/hacked. Could you tell us what are the signs looked for to verify this? I don't have a clue about batch downloads, etc., but I'm wondering if malicious code could be used in any way here. If so, then the person who enabled the malicious code could remove it after completing their illegal activity long before the computer ever becomes evidence, leaving no record of it ever having been there. Again, I remind you I am totally putarded, so if my question is funny, feel free to laugh.



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Mahto
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08-15-06, 07:57 AM (EST)

18. "RE: For the record"
In response to message #17

>Mahto, in another thread you said there was no signs that
>Charlie's computer had been cracked/hacked. Could you tell
>us what are the signs looked for to verify this? I don't
>have a clue about batch downloads, etc., but I'm wondering
>if malicious code could be used in any way here. If so,
>then the person who enabled the malicious code could remove
>it after completing their illegal activity long before the
>computer ever becomes evidence, leaving no record of it ever
>having been there. Again, I remind you I am totally
>putarded, so if my question is funny, feel free to laugh.
The computer expert hired by the defense made a diligent effort to locate any such evidence. That was what he was hired for. I am no expert so I can't give you any technical information on that.




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Jasper
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08-15-06, 11:17 PM (EST)

19. "RE:"
In response to message #18

Mahto...you still haven't connected Charley with the child porn sites. Just because you BELIEVE he got porn from emails doesn't count as evidence.
another thing....AOL bills don't fluctuate. That statement doesn't even make sense.

If he looked at illegal stuff like you say...AOL would know and they shut down accounts that do anything illegal.

The fact is.... there is NO evidence... just a few people who THINK he did because the pictures were there. I still believe a conspiracy theory is possible. There are enough LE crooks out there that want him gone! You need to investigate the CCSO and leave innocent people alone!!




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Mahto
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08-16-06, 08:42 AM (EST)

20. "RE:"
In response to message #19

>Mahto...you still haven't connected Charley with the child
>porn sites. Just because you BELIEVE he got porn from emails
>doesn't count as evidence.
>
>another thing....AOL bills don't fluctuate. That statement
>doesn't even make sense.
>
>If he looked at illegal stuff like you say...AOL would know
>and they shut down accounts that do anything illegal.
>
>The fact is.... there is NO evidence... just a few people
>who THINK he did because the pictures were there. I still
>believe a conspiracy theory is possible. There are enough LE
>crooks out there that want him gone! You need to investigate
>the CCSO and leave innocent people alone!!
I didn't say his AOL bill fluctuated. SAM said that and I told him I didn't understand what he meant. Tell it to the jury, not me.




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Buck
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08-22-06, 00:22 AM (EST)

21. "RE:"
In response to message #20

Reasonable doubt!! I have been reading about this case.
How can a case with this many holes turn into a conviction?

1. There is not evidence or an electronic trail as stated earlier linking this man to the illegal sites. Reasonable doubt!
2. The sales receipt didn't match the computer in the court room.Reasonable doubt!
3. The man wasn't even home or have his computer with him on the dates of the downloads.Reasonable doubt!
4. I even read somewhere on this site that the search warrant wasn't handled correctly.

Reasonable doubt! No doubt!




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GetReal
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08-22-06, 05:13 PM (EST)

22. "RE: reasonable doubt"
In response to message #21

close the barn door...the horse is out.



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Hahahahahahahaha! Greenleaf. I needed a laugh today, thank you! You're the tops!

 

Here you go ... Susan Bennet's public admission of a felony.

 

And it's a thing of beauty! Suitable for framing even. Why, I may even have it embroidered onto a pillow or silk-screened on a t-shirt!

Actually, I rather like the t-shirt idea.