The facts are the facts, and more than one REAL JOURNALIST, as well as Kane and Thomas, have written and stated as FACT that the original 911 call tape was taken to Aerospace to be analysed. The result, as reported by ACTUAL JOURNALISTS and PROFESSIONAL LE, was an enhanced tape with voices on it in the background at the end of Patsy's 911 call. But as usual, you deny the truth and state your misinformation as fact: We'll see who's peddling ABSOLUTE BULL here. You, jams, say you spoke to Schiller and he won't "...verify Thomas' version of events...." So you're implying rather clearly Schiller denied the voices are on the enhanced 911 tape, because that's what Thomas wrote in his book. Or are you once again playing with semantics, meaning to give ONE impression, but leaving room to argue you didn't say that? That's the swamp spin we have so come to expect. I believe you are the one hearing voices if you really think that's what Schiller told you, because he wrote about this repeatedly in his book: http://www.acandyrose.com/12261996-911.htm [Thanks for the thousandth time, ACR.] ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Neither Schiller nor Kane EVER verified there are voices on the tape, you say? Here is the transcript of the Abrams show (thank you, Moab, for the thousandth time) where Schiller clearly states the exact same information about the enhanced 911 tape from Aerospace, repeating that VOICES ARE CLEARLY ON THE ENHANCED TAPE, just as he said in his book. (I saw the show and this transcript is true, but if you want to get another transcript from MSNBC, I'm sure you can; it will be essentially the same transcript.): http://18.104.22.168/~tricia/forums/showthread.php?p=40442&mode=threaded And furthermore, on the same show, Kane backs up what Schiller says, stating HE HAS HEARD THE TAPE AND THERE ARE VOICES ON IT. Schiller is clearly arguing WHAT HE WROTE IN HIS BOOK IS CORRECT: ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ You're right about one thing: Geraldo didn't air THE 911 call. He aired THE ENHANCED TAPE OF THE END OF THE 911 CALL. But that confusion I can understand, as for years, I didn't even get the difference, not until Wood aired the original on TV every five minutes. When I heard the original 911 call, I was stunned, because I did NOT remember hearing Patsy's voice, not the heavy breathing, the operator...none of it. I was ABOUT to post a mea culpa, that I must be wrong about hearing the tape on Geraldo, sure I'd have remembered Patsy's voice...when the Bonita Papers, which I also didn't know about, were posted online. Ironically enough, it was gutter candy bickering with someone--Spade?--about that topic, posting the section about the saga of the enhanced tape to prove some point she was busting a gut over, that focused me on the fact that THESE WERE TWO DIFFERENT TAPES, and the one I'd heard on Geraldo WAS NOT THE ORIGINAL WITH PATSY. That not only enlightened me about what I'd heard, but it was consistent with my memory of only hearing the "voices" aired on the tape from the Geraldo show. Jams, I know you well enough to know that you don't want to know, admit, or share the truth on this topic. Seems none of the RST has the courage to admit the plain truth about this, and I'm not even sure why, as there are good arguments to be made about how much any of this issue matters to the case anyway. But you only discredit yourself and your forum when you deny and bury the truth there. Anyone who has followed the case and kept up knows the truth about this from so many credible sources, it's undeniable to all but those who close their eyes to it willfully. As for me hearing the enhanced tape, it's a moot issue. Nobody has to believe me to actually KNOW there is an enhanced tape and that voices are on it, as the above sources prove. As for me, I know the truth by sheer serendipity. If Geraldo has stated publicly he did not play the ENHANCED TAPE, I believe you should put up your source of Geraldo saying that, as well, because I've never heard him say that and it would be news to me. And he would be bald-faced lying. But ONE MORE TIME, FOR THE RECORD IF ANYONE REALLY WANTS TO KNOW THE TRUTH: For those who claim my not having a tape of the show proves it never happened, then I guess what is coming off my TV everyday is from Planet SuRztuN, because I don't tape all that, either. No, I didn't tape that show, which I've said many times. I doubt that most of the American public have ever considered taping nightly talk shows for future proof, to convince people they don't know even exist, of what is said on those shows. It's absurd to think they would. Who could possibly have known back then this would be such an issue? How many 911 calls have we heard on TV? I didn't even realize for years Geraldo played a different tape made from the original call. I just thought that he played the part with the voices which were claimed to be Burke's and John's. It never crossed my mind what had been done to the tape, nor that it mattered, other than here was the much talked about tape with voices that allegedly incriminated the Ramseys. When I heard it, it did not seem like a big deal at all. Nobody on the show jumped up and down, nobody argued vociferously, as I remember. I couldn't make out what was said, and neither could anyone on the show. Just voices. The whole segment took maybe 15 minutes. At the time, I don't think I'd ever discussed the case with another human being; it was just something I was interested in, like the O.J. case. Nobody I knew in real life cared one way or another--and doesn't to this day. So why on EARTH would I tape it? This was before I ever even imagined there was an internet full of boards and discussions about the case, or any case, or anything like forums, before I was online. I had never once taped one thing to do with any case in those days, unless it as a show I wanted to see and couldn't be there, and then taped over the next time for the same reason. I just watched talk shows for my own interest, which did not require taping. I always watched Geraldo at night for the news about the various high profiile cases. That's the only reason I even saw that show, because as I remember it, only a few commercials were run that day or so about him having "the tape" on his show that night. I can't even say what year it was now. I just know it was before May of 2000, because that's when I came online after reading Thomas' book and learning he was going to be on a website answering questions about his book. So if people want to believe that I'm therefore a liar because I can't prove what I saw on TV one night, years ago, even though others also say they saw it as well, then I guess they'll just have to believe what they need to believe. I'm not a liar, and I saw it. All I have ever heard said about why CNBC buried the show is what Maeven said, because she saw it, too. (No, I didn't know her then, don't know her now, she just saw me posting about it at Purgatory long ago and posted her information.) She said she saw it, not knowing ahead of time what was coming on. So she was going to tape it on the repeat of the show late that night, but when it came back on, there was some kind of message that due to some problem, the repeat was canceled, which disappointed her. That's all I know, as I didn't bother to stay up and see it again. Why would I? Since I know SOMETHING happened that night to the show, I can only surmise the network got a call from Hunter or Beckner or God, for all I know, and the result was they cut that part out of the transcript and the tapes they sell of the shows or just ditched that segment altogether under threat of legal action, maybe because Burke was a minor, maybe because it was evidence in a murder case. But I think it is just another example of how this murder case has been full of strange events all along. At any rate, moot point. The real issue is that there is plenty of credible corroboration from sources as high up as the attorney who led the Grand Jury which PROVES that there is an enhanced tape of the end of the 911 call, and there are voices on it. AND THAT'S NO ********.