Lou Smit

Discussion in 'Justice for JonBenet Discussion - Public Forum' started by Spade, Dec 21, 2003.

  1. purr

    purr Active Member

    ok, fedorax.....i am sorry if i offended you

    i did have a hissy hit!

    and i understand that tricia does NOT want
    me to criticize anyone on the forum.

    so again, i apologize.

    let me say how i feel another way....
    and address what you said fedorax.

    i may have asked you to copy the videotape....
    i TAKE THAT BACK.

    i was asking you AND I AM STILL ASKING YOU
    to send the original tape
    to Tricia.......since i KNOW you trust Tricia
    and I trust Tricia and i KNOW she
    will tell the truth about what is on that videotape.

    there is nothing illegal or unmoral about doing that!

    i know you dont trust me with the videotape
    and honestly i dont trust you about this one matter.

    i have NO idea why you wont release that
    videotape since it provides proof that LIN
    was lying and is still a LIAR.

    i just dont get that!!!!!

    you give NO reason why you wont release that tape,
    instead you just say, "i dont do that"... well,
    that is NO reason to me.
    and it doesnt make sense to me since you
    are a forum member here.

    could you please restate your reason
    for NOT releasing that videotape?
    and how that would hurt you in
    any way if Tricia saw it????

    and YES, Adrian i have the dates of the
    Geraldo show........! i have done my homework...
    i have found as much that i could online
    with the many web sites available.

    this show was on the OLD geraldo show.
    called The Geraldo Rivera Show.
    He had a 2 day mock trial about the JonBenet Ramsey case.

    the show was called
    "The Ramsey's on Trial, Part 1"
    which was aired, November 25th, 1997.
    and
    "The Ramsey's on Trial, Part 2"
    aired November 26th, 1997.

    the show played during the day.
    i was NOT working then....i was
    home when i saw it.

    and Fedorax, i did my homework and tried to
    contact Geraldo before you ever suggested that.
    i emailed him over and over..........and i knew
    that He personally would NOT be reading
    the email........so i addressed it to his
    assistants who read email for him.
    i NEVER heard back from them.
    i emailed him first....because honestly at
    that time i did NOT have money to try and call him.

    i will call him this time and write him over and over
    til he is sick of hearing from me.

    and fedorax, if you have any contacts
    with Geraldo and the like.........why
    wont you help ME and the FORUM
    and you call them........and
    provide the first point of contact???

    DONT YOU CARE???

    and i have never contacted Schiller.....
    i honestly dont have his email address or
    know where to call information for his number.
    does anyone on this forum have that info, and i will go
    forward??

    also, i will contact Jann Scott. he is a new online
    friend for me.
    we have been recently been emailing
    each other.
    i know he will be honest with me and help me
    in anyway about the matter of this 911 call.
    he is a great guy!!!!

    i checked out the burrelle's transcripts for those
    date times. they do NOT send out transcripts
    from shows that long ago. they have time limits,
    and that was just too long ago.

    fedorax, i think you are being very rude when
    you say that the people on that show would
    NOT remember what they saw or heard on that show.
    how do you know what someone else will
    remember or not...!!!??? you CANT answer
    for other people. that is ludicrous!!!

    i would have remembered if i saw and heard the 911
    call. i mean the info on that show was tremendous
    I REMEMBER other things they discussed on
    that show that day...Remember that show
    made a big impact on my life. That is when
    I knew if the Ramsey's lied about this 911
    call..........what else did they lie about.......????
    then i went searching for THE TRUTH and
    I CHANGED my mind about the RAMSEY's
    and i went searching on all the web info
    and found THIS FORUM!!!

    (also, remember, i said they provided a transcript
    on the call at the bottom of the tv screen because
    at the end of the call.....it is VERY difficult to hear
    anything. but i heard the tone of the words
    that John said to Burke.......and it broke my
    heart and made me cry. John was so very mean
    to Burke!!!! anyway, my point is........it would
    be doubly easy to remember the 911 call
    because of the transcript they also provided
    to read along while the call was playing!)

    you have made me more determined to
    contact Miss American Marilyn Van Derbur.
    i know she will tell me what she saw and
    heard on those 2 days. i KNOW
    she will remember.

    and I will also contact that other lady
    you named on the previous thread and posts
    in which we discussed the 911 call
    and the Geraldo show before.
    i will look that up.

    you all can look up the previous thread also.
    do a search for Rivera Live.
    the thread was opened by Spade on
    November 9, 2003.

    do any of you know who else was on that mock jury?
    i will try and contact them too.

    Tricia,
    i understand that not much will happen
    legally if i find and show this videotape
    with the full 911 call on it.

    but i will know..that Linn was lying.
    and in a court of "media hype"
    that would play Big Time
    over the air waves...that Linn
    has lied all this time.........and his
    credibility would be "down the drain".
    wouldnt that be good information
    to have???
    if we do finally break THE TRUTH to
    the U.S...the World.....to everyone?????
    to let everyone know....the Ramsey's are
    REALLY big liars.......??? and in a
    COURT of LAW....wouldnt that be
    proof at their LACK of CREDIBILITY!.

    i dont understand limiting the
    importance of this complete 911 call
    that played on the TV air waves.
    i just dont get it.
    i think it is VERY IMPORTANT!

    isnt THAT important to you?
    and if it isnt, we will just
    have to agree..........to disagree?

    i just feel others on this forum
    will find it VERY IMPORTANT also!!!

    also, Fedorax, i am NOT the only one
    who heard or saw that complete 911 call.
    i also saw it on "inside edition" and/or "hard copy"........
    one of those shows.

    AND there are other forum
    members who HAVE heard it!!!!
    and i am so thankful they have come
    forward to say so.....!!

    even Spade said he heard it ........and
    I believe SPADE for sure.
    he seems to have some inside connections
    to many players in this murder case.

    and of course, i believe all the other
    forum members too!!!!!!! i really do!!!!!

    here is another thing i saw...the pic
    of John Andrew at the ATM machine.
    the person in the pic had on a baseball
    hat.........there is no way in hell
    that you could identify it as John Andrew
    or anyone. the baseball cap
    was pulled down over most of the
    person's face!!!!

    fedorax, did you personally copy that
    videotape from the show? do you know who
    did? could they have possibly erased
    the part of the 911 call without you knowing?
    did you previous work for Geraldo or
    any of those other shows? what
    is your connection to having a whole
    videofile of his shows? just a person hobby?
    or what? just curious.

    i just know that most forum members
    if they had a copy of that mock trial...
    they WOULD let everyone see it.

    AND the 911 call is not the only
    interesting thing about that show!!! for sure!!!
    there is LOTS of good evidence and info
    debated on that show which i have
    never seen before or since.

    Fed, dont you want to share that!!!

    ok, how about this.....you have
    the videotape.....why dont you type up
    a complete transcript of the show for us.
    or have someone do it for you????

    i would know if it was real or not because
    i do REMEMBER what was on that show those 2 days.

    why couldnt you do that for us or is that illegal?
    i really dont know if that breaks a copyright law too.
    please let me know.

    i just dont understand why you wont share it.
    and yes, tricia, this makes me VERY frustrated.

    again, i am very sorry if i spoke
    in an offending way..........that is NOT my point.

    i just want THE TRUTH out there.
    and i WONT stop until i find it ALL
    and the Ramsey's are behind bars!!!!!!

    enough said,
    purr
     
    Last edited: Jan 17, 2004
  2. purr

    purr Active Member

    well, i do have more to say.....to ask!!!!

    fedorax, i am humbly asking you to help me on this matter.

    i need information from that specific videotape.

    would you please help me with this???

    please list the names of the people
    on the mock jury.

    please list the names of the "lawyers" who
    presented the defense FOR the ramsey's
    and the lawyers who presented AGAINST the
    Ramseys, the prosecution on the case.

    also, please list pertainent names of the
    people who helped provide evidence
    on that show. they were probably
    listed on screen during the closing credits.

    also, could you please tell me the
    name of Geraldo's producer from that show?
    or any other Geraldo staff members???

    that would be very helpful.

    and i KNOW that would NOT be illegal for you
    to do that.

    and i KNOW that would NOT be
    going against any copyright laws!!!

    just like when a play has a program
    that lists all the names of the performers.

    and that is NOT illegal..........but
    supplying the script of the show without
    paying for it........that WOULD be illegal.

    i just want a list of all the "players"
    on that specific show.

    please list them on this thread/post/forum.
    maybe some other forum members
    would help me try to contact them.

    again, i humbly ask you to help me!

    thank you,
    purr
     
  3. Tricia

    Tricia Administrator Staff Member

    Purr Fedorax has already told me the 911 call is not on the tape. Also Fedorax has stated it would be quite the ordeal to find the tape. I think we need to respect her wishes on this.

    What I would suggest doing is finding out the distributer of the show. I think it was King World. Find out their contact info and ask them if you can buy a copy of the video of that show. Someone has a copy somewhere that you can get your hands on.
     
  4. Adrian Monk

    Adrian Monk Member

    Did some Internet trolling, found this:

    Contact Information:

    King World Productions
    555 West 57th Street
    Suite 1300
    New York, NY 10019
    Attention: Donna Fields
    Phone: (212) 817-5656
    E-mail: dfields@kingworld.com

    http://www.insideedition.com/library.htm

    ...now if somebody could just post when the show aired?
     
  5. RiverRat

    RiverRat FFJ Sr. Member Extraordinaire (Pictured at Lef

    Good find!

    But my best guesstimate is 5-6 years ago.

    It WAS NOT on Geraldo - it was much earlier in the evening when I heard it - just as Inside Edition would have been on in the 7-8 o'clock range as opposed to Geraldo at nine. Dinner preparations were under way so I know that it wasn't a late hour.

    I missed the mock trial - never saw a thing replayed either - it was NO re-inactment.

    RR
     
  6. Adrian Monk

    Adrian Monk Member

    The contact info I posted was for Inside Edition, but if it was a different show that aired, let me know.

    If they didn't play AUDIO of the enhanced tape, don't bother. I want to get the audio of the product, after Aerospace did their work. It may be that work can be done on the show tape and make sure that track is legit, and then get to work on reducing Lyin' Wood's inventory of race horses and Jaguars.

    We have multiple people here who say they've "heard" it, so whatever show that was, that's what I want to zero in on.
     
  7. Sabrina

    Sabrina Member

    The main guests on the mock trial show were:

    Judge Burton Katz
    Raol Felder
    Linda Kinney

    lesser roles:

    Dr. Jack Levin
    Dr. Sheenan Hankin
    Dr. Denkin-Gerber

    I thought Marcia Clark was on it, but I guess not.
     
  8. purr

    purr Active Member

    thanks sabrina..........

    but those people were NOT on the
    geraldo show on november 25th and 26th.

    and Yes, the complete 911 call was
    on one of those shows ...one of those days.
    i heard it.

    and fedorax,
    i have had time to do some thinking.
    and i apologize again and again.

    i do believe you that the 911 call is not on that tape.
    you have no reason to lie.

    this is what could have happened.
    someone saw the geraldo show
    with that 911 call on it.........
    or the inside edition/hard copy show.
    and i betcha..that all those shows
    had to edit their copies they sent
    out to burrelle's transcripts.....or whomever and............

    i doubt there will ever be a videotape
    i can find with that 911 call on it.

    NO ONE WANTS TO GET SUED!!!!!

    maybe i will find someone from
    a private household who taped it.

    and/or i will ask some of the jurors on the
    show that day.

    but i am sure they wont have a copy
    either, but they just will remember
    it being played.

    so sorry fedorax!

    and i am sorry, Tricia.
    please forgive me,
    purr
     
  9. LurkerXIV

    LurkerXIV Moderator

    Adrian Monk

    Or the date and network and show name of some other show in which this tape was allegedly replayed in "enhanced" form?

    I am almost certain that the alleged playing of the enhanced tape on Inside Edition or Hard Copy was on the same evening that Bill Clinton gave his apology speech.

    I was getting ready for a trip, and only had one ear on the TV at the time IE/HC aired.

    That date was August 17, 1998.

    http://www.zpub.com/un/un-bc-sp1.html
     
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