More disinformation from jameson

Discussion in 'Justice for JonBenet Discussion - Public Forum' started by Watching You, Mar 28, 2006.

  1. Watching You

    Watching You Superior Bee Admin

    jameson continues to put forth fallacy as fact, which has created a ton of disinformation at her forum. I wish she would take the time to educate herself on these subjects before she further misconstrues the truth.

    Vomiting can, in fact come from the intestines in cases of bowel obstruction. I remember getting into a "discussion" with the head nurse on the night shift at a hospital when my sister's bowel was strangled by adhesions from her cancer surgery. The nurse was an overbearing witch, and when she asked my sister what she had eaten, I told her if she ate the mess she had been vomiting, she ate pure ****. It was shortly after that when I blew a gasket and called the cancer hospital to take her there. She would have died had she waited much longer. I damn near whupped that belligerent nurse. It took us 2 hours to get to the cancer hospital. They operated immediately and removed part of her bowel - it was gangrenous. My sister was puking the contents of her bowels.

    Bile is produced by the liver; yet, bile is often vomited.

    There are many reasons why people vomit, but it all doesn't come just from the stomach.

    Just another fallacy by jameson to add to so many others. Too bad so many of her jambots base their beliefs on her ignorance.
     
  2. Watching You

    Watching You Superior Bee Admin

    BTW, that's the first I've heard that the "authorities" (meaning her and Smit?) believe the pineapple was eaten HOURS before - even before going to the Whites. They just keep changing the evidence to suit themselves, don't they?

    What total BS.
     
  3. Barbara

    Barbara FFJ Senior Member

    If you read solely at the BB for any length of time, one will get the impression based on her own back patting and those of her following that she IS the authority on this case. The cult hang on every word and believe her every utterance as if it were coming from the Lord. Pretty scary stuff. When you add Smit to the mix, it becomes really dangerously frightening

    You stated it better than I WY. In the field of Cerebral Palsy, we very often have people who are non ambulatory and in wheelchairs who can become impacted and from time to time, if not monitored, they will vomit FECES.

    But then again, what do my specialty doctors in the field know, when we all have Jameson to ask about medical issues? I must remember to tell the agency that they are paying the physicians and specialists way too much when they could consult Jameson. Although I have to wonder how much she would charge for a consultation.
     
  4. Watching You

    Watching You Superior Bee Admin

    jameson is a legend in her own mind and the authority on everything from stun guns to pineapple and puke. Psychologists would have a field day studying her narcissism.
     
  5. koldkase

    koldkase FFJ Senior Member

    WY, you are a strong woman. I like that! If I ever need anyone in my corner, I'm hoping someone like you will be there.

    Oh, jams is a hair away from declaring herself officially in charge of this investigation. And an honorary Ramsey.

    She's already gone so far as to insinuate she knows everything about this case there is to know, has seen every file, piece of evidence, talked with every member of LE, every lawyer, investigator, medical examiner and constultant, and the FBI. Like she could begin to understand what any of them said or meant if she had.... For example:

    The pineapple in the upper intestine won't go away. Somehow, JonBenet got hold of that pineapple an hour or two before she died. The same pineapple was then found on the Ramsey's table. It was tested in a lab and it was the same pineapple. Even LOU SMIT told John THE BIG BUGABOO OF THE PINEAPPLE JUST WON'T GO AWAY. This is actually the best known piece of evidence against John Ramsey, because if they lied about JonBenet being asleep, then he was in on it, wasn't he, at some point. This is why the RST has to spinspinspin that there is no pineapple--that's what one of them said, claiming it was cracked crab; or she ate it before they went to the White's that afternoon, when Burke had it out (and you have to wonder if he was ever asked about that by LE or the Grand Jury); or the people there the next day put it out (and no way LE would think to ask them).

    If they don't like the evidence because it doesn't fit with the Ramseys' many stories, they have to deny it somehow. Just like the enhanced 911 tape, which is real, which has been corroborated not only by Thomas but on national TV by Kane and Schiller. Even Aerospace told the media THEY STAND BY THEIR RESULTS. But jams can't take the giant mental leap and deduce that means THE ENHANCED TAPE EXISTS AND THAT'S A FACT. Since she hasn't ever heard it, she just closes her eyes and says There's no place like the swamp, 3 times, and she's back in Ramseyland! Where she then claims SHE'S HEARD THE ENHANCED TAPE and THERE'S NOTHING THERE! She means DAVE'S ENHANCED TAPE, of course, but hey, a little confusion between RamSpin and the truth has never hurt the swamp, has it? The truth cannot survive long in Ramseyland. They have guards at every gate and if any seeps in, they destroy it immediately!

    Of course, there are many of us who actually did hear the enhanced tape, leaked to Geraldo one fateful night, who played it on his show, heard by anyone listening and his guests, who discussed it with him. That's a fact. Many of us have come forward and told the truth about this. I have no reason to lie. Hearing the tape doesn't make me or anyone who did special. But it does give me the burden of telling the truth about it as the swampsters try to bury the truth with their lies, so they can help the child killer avoid responsibility for murdering JonBenet.

    I don't know who the voices belong to. But they are there. Period.
     
  6. Watching You

    Watching You Superior Bee Admin

    I have always believed you, KK. I didn't see that show or hear the tape on the show, but many posters, whom I consider to be of the utmost integrity, have told me both privately and publicly that they did hear the enhanced tape on TV, and I believe them. It happened, and it was quickly covered up. We can only speculate why.
     
  7. FreeFalling

    FreeFalling Banned for Stupidity

    It is SCARY when people who appear to have the ability to think logically in other matters, take the word of jameson in the Ramsey case. No matter what she comes out with. Forums for Justice has a mission that must be carried forth. For a newbie exposed to this case at jameson's, FFJ must always be present to reveal the truth. Otherwise, this case and its followers will be reduced to looking everywhere for that intruder that never existed. It's easy for a person to become brainwashed when they are led to believe they are discussing the case with an "insider."
     
  8. Greenleaf

    Greenleaf FFJ Senior Member

    jams twin?

    jameson reminds me of the nut in the Lindbergh murder case. His name was Dr. Condon. (Jams and her sex glove and Dr. Condon....get it? Lol.)

    Seriously, Condon was a real nut. He injected himself into the case, and, a lot of doubts that exist today stem from the dubious role he played throughout the entire affair.




    John F. Condon, key witness


    (Hunterdon County Democrat)

    "He became the intermediary between the kidnapper and the Lindberghs after writing a letter to a newspaper offering $1,000 of his own money to help reunite the baby with its family. After passing a series of notes to Lindbergh, a transfer of the $50,000 ransom was accomplished in a cemetery. Until “Jafsie†unequivocally identified Bruno Hauptmann as the man to whom he handed the money, many police officers and others considered him a suspect in the case."


    :leaf:
    GL
     
  9. koldkase

    koldkase FFJ Senior Member

    You are so right. Not to mention, those who really don't know this case by the actual evidence now only have disinformation put in the media, lies and libel and spin put forth by the delusional and ignorant Lou Smit, aided by PROFITEERS Lin Wood and hoax "journalist" Tracey. You never heard John Ramsey criticizing them for all the money they made on this case, not to mention, for the Ramseys themselves.

    And you'll NEVAH see a swampster complaining about how awful it is that many INNOCENT PEOPLE are daily labeled as CHILD KILLERS by none other than THEIR OWN MEMBERS. I've seen Fleet White and his family dragged through the lies and mud day in and day out there for years. Then there are the ever misinformed and ignorant rantings of those calling the McReynolds killers. To clear their consciences, some of them even include every single suspect they have discussed in a great conspiracy of child murder! That way, no one can say they've attacked innocent people all these years because they couldn't have ALL done it.

    But oh, the poor Ramseys! So put upon by the mean old BORG just because they chose to hide behind lawyers rather than help LE find their child's killer, they scarcely remember to lay any blame on the actuall killer, jumping quickly to full blown hatred of all the awful people who just won't accept that a little child murder in the family is nobody's business!

    What a bunch of wingnuts.
     
  10. koldkase

    koldkase FFJ Senior Member

    This is exactly how jams sees herself in this case. She even said she "hopes" her play would attract the killer to come and see it. I'm not making this up.....
     
  11. Watching You

    Watching You Superior Bee Admin

    You couldn't make this up if you tried.
     
  12. Scarifier

    Scarifier McHag The Third

    Interestingly enough, pineapple is one of the fastest digested foods, partly because it is high in sugar, but also because it contains enzymes which aid digestion. It's more likely it was eaten later in the evening than the party if it was still in the upper intestinal tract.

    If you're interested, or rather if Jameson is interested: I'm a sports nutritionist. I'm not just making this up :)
     
  13. EasyWriter

    EasyWriter FFJ Senior Member


    Total BS is right.

    According to JamNut:

    “Dr. Dobersen also told me that there is NO WAY to tell when JBR
    ate that pineapple. She could have eatten it at 3 or 4 in the
    afternoon before going to the Whites for dinner. Since no one
    paid attention to what she ate at the Whites', they can't tell
    anything about the pineapple and when it was consumed.â€
    (jamesonadmin Oct-26-02, 08:46 AM (EST))

    Granted, Dr. Doberson is by no means the sharpest knife in the
    drawer, but I will lay long odds that he never said such a thing.
    Way back when, I researched this area exhaustively. Literally,
    every authority source I looked at stated that fresh pineapple is
    one of the fastest in digesting in the acid fruit class. TOTAL
    digestion is two hours, or less. There was not total digestion.
    Granted, there are always some variables, but to state that
    JonBenet could have eaten the pineapple at 3 or 4 in the
    afternoon is a total contradiction of all relevant evidence,
    relevant science and is nothing but total nonsense. Considering
    the source and past performance, what can you expect from this
    source except lies and nonsense?
     
  14. koldkase

    koldkase FFJ Senior Member

    Welcome to the guttah, Scarifier! I L O V E that movie, by the way. Great hat!

    And thanks for joining us! We L O V E it when people add to the discussion with professional knowledge they share. I didn't know that about pineapple. But it squares with all the other evidence we do know about.

    I said this in another post, but I want to repeat it because I think it's important: if John lied about JonBenet being asleep when they returned home, he is involved in this murder.

    So if JonBenet was awake when the Rams returned home and ate some pineapple, grabbing it from the table, maybe when Burke pulled it out to snack before bed, maybe without her parents noticing, their whole story falls apart from the first lies.

    That's why the RST cannot stand to talk about the pineapple except to deny deny deny. You know, Jackie Peterson style.

    But there are other possibilities, of course. Only none of them that are credible involve an intruder feeding her and then keeping her alive for an hour before killing her while her family slept, IMO.

    Deny deny deny.
     
  15. koldkase

    koldkase FFJ Senior Member

    Wow, great info, Easy Writer.

    Not to mention that LE paid close attention to what JonBenet ate at the Whites. Only Patsy and John say nobody noticed. Since they have admitted repeatedly they paid no attention to her bathing habits or her bathroom habits, I'm not surprised. But the Whites knew what they had to eat that night, and pineapple was not there.

    Patsy also admitted that she bought fresh pineapple, and that is what the pineapple found in JonBenet's stomach was. I think it was tested against pineapple found in the Ramsey's fridge, wasn't it? Please correct me if I'm misremembering that.

    But that's why jams is so desperate to create the RST fantasy that JonBenet ate the pineapple at home BEFORE they went. Otherwise...back to that BUGABOO Smit couldn't even shake.
     
  16. koldkase

    koldkase FFJ Senior Member

    Ok, if you want to see the little heads spinning like dervishes, you have to read this thread:

    http://www.webbsleuths.org/dcforum/DCForumID61/1434.html

    Braveheart even has gone so far as to create an explanation for the pineapple so outlandish, you have to hope he's not in close proximity to sharp objects in real life. He believes the pineapple was pureed and then fed to JonBenet through a feeding tube or horse syringe! I swear I am NOT making this up!

    :404:
     
  17. Watching You

    Watching You Superior Bee Admin

    :floor: :floor: :floor: :floor: :floor: :floor: :floor: :floor:


    :eek:
     
  18. Jayelles

    Jayelles Alert Viewer in Scotland

    I missed that one LOL. Maybe we should have a competition for the most outlandish theory. Winner gets a coconut.

    Edited to add - I really wish I had a better imagination. I do tend to see the world in black and white. Then most logical explanation is always the one that works for me :)
     
  19. EasyWriter

    EasyWriter FFJ Senior Member


    This is my recollection as well.

    This issue of the pineapple is, indeed, a bugaboo for the RST
    since it sets a general time line for JonBenet’s death. The
    reality is that JonBenet died within two hours after eating the
    pineapple. This truth leaves the RST to meld this with an
    intruder\murderer theory. They try to dodge this sticky wicket by
    the absurd claim that the pineapple digestion takes a lot longer
    than two hours; some claim up to six hours. I see the claim. What
    I don’t see is any authoritative source to back it up. To the
    contrary, all the authority references I know of labels the RST
    claim as a lie. - Typical RST.
     
  20. Moab

    Moab Admin Staff Member

    Was this some recipe from Martha Stewart or Julia Childs? Pureed pineapple my royal .........
    :floor:
     
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