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    Default "Mortal Evidence" Dr.Wecht

    http://www.pittsburghlive.com/x/trib.../s_185318.html


    Three-quarters of deaths don't fall in those categories; old age and illness carry off most of us. Accidents take the next largest number, then homicides and suicides, Dr. Wecht points out in "Mortal Evidence," co-authored with journalists Greg Saitz and Mark Curriden


    He also thinks there's enough evidence to hold the parents of slain 6-year-old Colorado beauty queen JonBenet Ramsey on criminal charges.


    Will Lin Wood go after Dr. Wecht because of his thoughts?
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    Linn Wood already tried and Wecht hasn't backed down. Why should he? While I personally don't agree with him about the theory of a sex game gone wrong, he is right on about the physical evidence and the absurdity of an intruder theory. Lots of people havn't backed down--it just that interest in this case has waned and nobody really seems to wants to touch it since it's not interesting anymore to most people anyway.

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    PS Wecht, for those of you who don't know, believes Jonbenet was abused sexually before the murder, although he can't say for sure how often it occured or when it started. He has said many times that the opening to the vaginal canal was twice the size of a normal six YO's and the erosion of the hymen was also indicative of chronic sexual abuse. He believes that if not for the Ramsey's money and position, John Ramsey would have been in jail immediately after the murder.

    What Wecht does not explain (to the best of my recollection) is why there was no semen on or around the body, nor does he ever explain why, if digital penetration was the avenue of abuse, it couldn't have been Patsy or even Burke who inflicted those injuries. Or even Jonbenet herself even though that is a huge stretch.

    If semen had been found on the body this case would have been over the first week. So the question becomes, were those vaginal injuries sexual in nature, or were they punishment for bedwetting? As I've said many times on this forum, we had a case here in Austin five years ago where two parents tied fishing line around their son's penis as a punishment for bedwetting and eventually the penis developed gangriene and dropped off. So don't count out the punishment angle because it can and does happen.

    Who knows? Maybe JR was abusing her but it had just been a couple of times and there was no penetration (of the penis). Maybe it was just starting and hadn't reached a certain level. Maybe JBR and JR were interrupted before the deed was done! Maybe JBR got those injuries playing doctor with someone else. Maybe Patsy did it in a rage and had punished her that way before.

    These are all questions that have never been answered to anybody's satisfaction and hence the lack of charges in my opinion

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    Wecht has never wavered on his belief that this was "an inside job".

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    Default yup

    Why would anyone disagree with what John Ramsey himself said that morning? I mean he would know...

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    Default psssst, hey Bob

    ever hear of a condom?

    Besides, what's the diff between an intruder and JR? If a male intruder sexually abused her, why no semen there? Condom? Where'd it go?

    I believe one of the two did it. Which one, I don't know.

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    I was never one of the posters who believed John Ramsey sexually abused his daughter, but the evidence is there, that this little girl was abused. I hardly think rough treatment from Patsy, when it came to dealing with JonBenét's bedwetting, would cause the enlargement of JonBenét's vagina; therefore someone was responsible for this internal intrusion. Digital penetration on the 26 December does not explain the wooden shards from the broken part of the paintbrush, Bob. This was to help camouflage the previous history.

    A mother knows a little six year old daughter's body pretty well, Bob, from diapering her when a baby, up until she is capable of attending to herself. I had three sons, but I have a few granddaughters, and I for sure would have known if there was something wrong when these little girls have been left with me over the years. Their mothers are dealing with them every single day.

    As for Patsy Ramsey's testimony in the Police Files, she hardly knew a thing about her daughter. She couldn't recall if her daughter had a shower on Christmas day. She couldn't recall if her daughter washed hands at the White's party. Every mother knew she was a first class liar. I'll guarantee she knew the colour of the hair dye she used on JonBenét and the shade of lipstick.

    JonBenét's body was washed down, so all traces of semen were gone down the drain, if there was any (?).

    Patsy and John Ramsey know more about this side of things and I believe that both of them are first class liars with all the inconsistencies I have come across in my research in this case.
    We all know what they are. No need to list them.

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    Linn Wood already tried and Wecht hasn't backed down. Why should he? While I personally don't agree with him about the theory of a sex game gone wrong, he is right on about the physical evidence and the absurdity of an intruder theory. Lots of people havn't backed down--it just that interest in this case has waned and nobody really seems to wants to touch it since it's not interesting anymore to most people anyway.[/b]
    I am pleased that Dr.Wecht is standing by his statement. I agree with you. He is right on with the physical evidence and non existant intruder. You are also right about people losing interest, bar those here, who are still posting and researching the case.
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    Default Elle

    You are right about that. Most 6 year olds don't fix there bath water or decide if and when they should take a bath. Once a kid gets in the tub you have to tell them to get out or they'd stay in there for hours. And Patsy doesn't remember?

    I believe Patsy killed JonBenet and John haaalllped.

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    Wood shard (s) were not found in her vagina, there was one tiny piece of what might have been one shard in there. One. This piece could easily have been transferred on a finger.

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    http://www.thesmokinggun.com/archive/jonbenet4.html

    From page 4 of the autopsy

    A 1 cm red-purple area of abrasion is located on the right posterolateral area of the 1 x 1 cm hymenal orifice.

    From Page 9 of the autopsy

    Vaginal Mucosa: All of the sections contain vascular congestion, and focal interstitial chronic inflammation. The smallest piece of tissue from the 7:00 position of the vaginal wall/hymen, contains epithelial erosion with underlying capillary congestion. A small number of red cells is present on the eroded surface, as is birefringent foreign material. Acute inflammatory infiltrate is not seen.

    .................................................. .................................................. ...

    Actually, I remember reading it as just a wood shard, although it isn't mentioned in the autopsy here. Do you have the source for this, Bob?

    I suppose we can take the “ birefringent foreign material” as the wood shard.
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    Originally posted by 1000 Sparks
    You are right about that. Most 6 year olds don't fix there bath water or decide if and when they should take a bath. Once a kid gets in the tub you have to tell them to get out or they'd stay in there for hours. And Patsy doesn't remember?

    I believe Patsy killed JonBenet and John haaalllped.
    This is what I think too, Spark. John Ramsey was involved in the staging. Patsy's replies in the NE Police Files don't portray her as an attentive mother at all, except when attending the child beauty pageants with JonBenét.
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    Well the whole family is "inattentive." I mean Patsy was bellowing at the top of her lungs right outside Burke's door and he "never woke up" and yet somehow JR heard her from the shower on the 3rd floor. Burke later told cops he could hear it when a person opened the refridgerator door downstairs, but he slept through Patsy screeching like a wounded swamp possum.

    You'd almost think they were all lying.



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