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    Quote Originally Posted by Watching You
    Susan jameson Bennett is a control freak. She has a need to control everything and everyone around her. With that in mind, take note of the posters at her forum - those, at least, who are not one of her hats. Bennett cannot control most posters, which is the reason the swamp is the joke of the Internet with about five posters and 15 different hats belonging to hir. One has to be really stupid to be controlled by a petty, vindictive creep like Susan Bennett.

    I have quit reading there, because she has nothing to offer except criticism of posters on other forums, and that bores me to death. The only reason I knew about her post attacking Misty is because someone sent it to me in an e-mail.
    I found this to be true, not only posters on other forums, but paid-in-full posters on her own. Personally, I found hir to be both a liar and a thief.

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    Was handwriting even mentioned? Surely, there are samples of Helgoth's writing floating around. Was the note attributed to the unnamed accomplice?




    I'd like to know how Michael Helgoth (or his friend) learned to write and sound like Patsy--

    Elle, a strange person named Douglas Pierce appeared in the VanDam case. He offered a reward through his phony charity, went to the Van Dam home a few days after she disappeared, and then when he didn't get the attention from them that he expected, he started publicly criticizing them. He even admitted he didn't have the reward money but was going to raise it! Later on, he "discovered" a tarp in the area where her body was found (after the trial ended I believe) and made a big production of putting it all up on his website. He went to a tv station to notify the police of his "discovery." They had to test it, and it was found to contain remnants of someone's barbeque. The SDPD then had to accompany Pierce to determine if he planted it or actually found it. I am a taxpayer of San Diego and this infuriates me that the man wasted police time and money because of his theatrics.

    During this time he was asking for donations for his "travel" expenses at Jameson's nightly chats. Some of hir members were so entranced by what they considered an actual case "insider" that they believed him, I have no idea if they actually sent $ or not but one member was in contact with him by phone and was enthralled over being chosen as his "messenger." Since hir was anti VanDam, and hir dictated to hir members to follow suit, he latched onto this.

    Then he tried to insert himself into another missing child case from San Diego- he even traveled to Maryland to see the paternal relatives of the child-- his actions upset the family greatly. They also mentioend he tried to raise money while he was there.

    His website is now gone. Millenium children's fund is history.

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    Default I remember

    He was a total fruitcake and his website was downright creepy. It was flipping unbelievable that some people took him seriously, but then again, he was obviously a con-merchant and if people couldn't be conned, they wouldn't exist.

    I think that there were people who were just so desperate for the vanDams to be guilty, that they were willing to clutch at anything. Pierce had conned his way into the vanDam home on the promise of the reward money and he emerged accusing the distraught Brenda of (taking time off from her nightmare and) squeezing her breasts at him (in his dreams maybe!) and he was convinced that Damon had murdered Danielle. He also stated that he had found a letter (or was it a poem?) from Danielle to Damon which "proved" he was sexually abusing her. I think it was a little childish apology letter or something. At first, jameson was dismissive of the significance of an apology letter from a child to a parent, but as the days went past and she was NOT embraced by the vanDams, she grew more scathing of them. She had been trying to make contact with the vanDam camp to no avail. Then she contacted Douglas Pierce and got a response. The rest was history. Creepy fruitcake Pierce was embraced by jameson & co.

    When Westerfield was convicted, Pierce decided to go out into the desert to find evidence and lo and behold, he found the tarpaulin. The whole thing was downright sinister, yet some posters seized upon it.
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    Default I'm amazed!

    I'm always amazed at you younger ones when I drop in here now and then, as to how you can all juggle more than one case at a time. :confused:
    I will admit to reading the initial happening; making up my mind on the spot as to whodunnit and back to the JonBenét case. I don't know how you all do it. I think they got the right killer for the Van Dam murder, and I hope they get Scott Peterson for Lacey's.

    Thanks for the update on Douglas Pierce, Sabrina. It's always good to know a bit more. I keep returning to the JonBenét case, hoping I'll read one day that the Ramseys have been charged. I cannot get over the stupidity of the Grand Jury not calling on them to appear before them. I would like to meet each one individually, just to give them a good hard slap on the face. Next in line, Lou Smit and then one real good hard one for Lin Wood. Even just seeing this in my head makes me feel better.
    elle: The RST can't handle the truth!
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    Default Elle - Stolen posts

    Quoted with no context:-

    Saw this on another site:
    "hoping I'll read one day that the Ramseys have been charged."

    The poster goes on to say she'd like to give each of them a hard slap, followed by Lou Smit and Lin Wood.

    This is the mindset of a BORG to the bone. Never mind finding the truth as long as the Ramseys are the ones charged for the crime.

    If this person truly wanted justice for JonBenet, wouldn't she want the killer charged, regardless of who the killer might be, Ramsey or not?

    Rainsong
    Incidentally, this same poster has read my posts about the Tracey documentary and my comments about my thoughts on the case and has concluded that I "think the Ramseys asked for it". She also cited other cases where parents "asked for" their children to be murdered:-

    Uh,huh. Just like rape victims 'ask for it.'
    Did Samantha Runion's parents 'ask for it?'
    She was allowed to play outside.
    How about Polly Klaas' parents?
    Her bedroom window was open.
    Adam Walsh's parents?
    After all, the mother allowed Adam to wander around the store.
    Did Holly Jones' parents 'ask for it?'
    They allowed her to walk a friend home and then return to her own home alone.

    http://www.webbsleuths.org/dcforum/DCForumID37/280.html
    I have asked her to tell me what part of my posts has she interpreted as me thinking the ramseys "asked for" JonBenet to be murdered.

    Scary.
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    Default Predictably

    The poster in question has "declined" to say why she is claiming that I say the "Ramseys asked to have JonBenet murdered".

    (The actual reason is that she cannot because I did not).

    Her actual response:-

    Sorry, dear. But no go.
    I interpret as I see fit. Just as you do.

    ...

    I've told you before, I don't like you. I think you manipulate, gossip and lie to fulfill your own needs.
    This person has ZERO credibility. She hasn't posted in weeks and then rejoins the discussions to post on BORG gossip threads. Clearly, the answer to what made her say that I think the Ramseys asked to have JonBenet murdered is in the last line of her post! She doesn't like me (BWAHHHH!)
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    Thumbs up Hee-hee...

    Elle is BORG TO THE BONE.

    Way to go, Elle!

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    Default Remember Mr Borg

    Hey there all the Mr, Mrs, Ms Borgs of Michigan. The Ramsey supporters salute you :-)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jayelles
    She doesn't like me (BWAHHHH!)
    I am absolutely positive you will lose a nights sleep over her opinion too. (Not!)
    Never let the children, Elders, the sick, or the infirm be exploited.


    "I love everything that's old: old friends, old times, old manners, old books, old wines." Oliver Goldsmith


    Let's bring all our missing and military home safely!


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    Default Incidentally

    For the record and whilst Rainsong raises the subject of people being liars.

    Rainsong claimed that "not one" poster at CN2000 welcomed her there when she joined. I posted that she HAD been welcomed and she called me a "bald-faced liar". So I produced two posts where posters welcomed her. Her response was that the "welcome Rainsong" posted by Buzzie and Imamaze another "hardly constituted a warm welcome"!

    She is not to be trusted. She also took bits from two of my posts at Purgatory, merged them together and presented them to the John Douglas board as though they had been made as one post. The falsified post took on a different meaning than the two separate posts read individually. The evidence that she did this was there for the entire world to see, yet she had the audacity to deny that she'd done it!
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    Default Scary

    It is, Jayelles.

    There is a reason "management" doesn't post the website addresses of quotes from different forums. It is intentional. Before being deactivated, instructions were given to me that putting website addresses of different forums in any of my posts was not allowed. Hardly, if ever, and I'm saying never does one see credit given to the site from which the quotes come.

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    Default Jc

    I am always leery of quotes without sources. Working for many years in academia, it has been instilled into me that references must be provided for credibility.

    I have noticed over the years that jameson never links to other forums - she says they will replace the link with porn but, really, that doesn't wear. How can a forum owner replace a thread link with a porn graphical image? I could see the point in posting links to graphics where the graphic could easily be substituted.

    Sometimes, she mentions the poster's name when she is posting her BORG stuff and sometimes, she doesn't even do that - just "found on a BORG forum". I have suspected that she makes some of these up. It's usually the more trashy posts that have no hats or forum names so she probably does make them up.

    I rather suspect that the reason she doesn't post links, is because readers would see the extent to which she is quoting out of context.
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